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News & Features Discussion  » [Interview] The Secret World: Joel Bylos On the 'Buy to Play' Change

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OP  12/12/12 6:33:26 AM#1

With the announcement earlier today that The Secret World would be going 'buy to play', a lot of questions have been raised as to the whys of the decision. Game Director Joel Bylos has a lot to say in our exclusive interview. Check it out! When will the revenue model changes occur? Will this tie in to the End of Days ARG you've recently announced?

Joel: The changes went live today, you can now play The Secret World without paying a subscription! It was imperative for this to happen before the world ends on the 21st of December. We really want to let as many people as possible enjoy The Secret World before they all perish and suffer a horrible, horrible death. Am I scaring anyone? Sorry… but the end really is near.

Read more of Victor Barreiro Jr.'s The Secret World: Joel Bylos On the 'Buy to Play' Change.

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12/12/12 6:35:09 AM#2

It was imperative for this to happen before the world ends on the 21st of December. We really want to let as many people as possible enjoy The Secret World before they all perish and suffer a horrible, horrible death.


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12/12/12 6:41:25 AM#3
"And if the world isnt ending then we are putting it back up with subs, yeah!"

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12/12/12 6:45:58 AM#4
Originally posted by MelonCider
"And if the world isnt ending then we are putting it back up with subs, yeah!"


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I wanna.... break free! 



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12/12/12 6:50:18 AM#5
Holy Fuck did anyone else get slapped in the face hard with this?! This was a amazing turn of events. They didn't ruin the game with a hybrid model or go full blown Free to play thank god last thing we needed was a another Star Wars The Old Republic!. I love the way it's going. they made the game cheaper for buy to play added some grant benefits for subs and life timers. And the DLC thing is genies look at games like WOW and RIFT you gott shell out 50-60 dollars a expansion every time! So good move Funcom good move! And I know alot of you may be upset but you gotta look at AAA mmo gaming as a whole on this one.Forgot to mention they also strengthen the Item mall. Good move. No power ups or pay to win so sorry item buyers we may have double exp but reilty is you can only use 7 active skills at a time haha And for Lifetimers.They get free bonus points for life which they use in the item mall and buy the 5 dollar DLC basically for free. Plus they get life time sub benefits. So I think they made out well.

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12/12/12 6:54:01 AM#6

This was probably the best move Funcom could make with TSW!

I´m really happy with their new model,very well done (unlike that horrid FTP model by swtor making you pay for skill

I´ll be buying TSW ^^


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12/12/12 6:58:00 AM#7
I like the buy-to-play concept. Fits for me. Will buy the game for my wife and me

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12/12/12 7:06:20 AM#8
I just realized -- they actually got the timing right on this one!  Right before Christmas and tied in with the alternate reality game event and latest Issue update.  Hmm, Joel, you should yell at the marketing team more often.  ;)

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12/12/12 7:08:14 AM#9

Well, i doesnt sound too bad. I'm still a bit sceptical, but we will see how this evolves. For now i will stay with my monthly membership.


But anyway. Its far better than the awkward SWTOR FTP system.



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12/12/12 7:29:10 AM#10
Originally posted by MelonCider
"And if the world isnt ending then we are putting it back up with subs, yeah!"



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12/12/12 7:32:42 AM#11

Smooth move on their part. Though I wonder why they didn't use this as a tie in with the advertising campain launched earlier in the month?

Still, hope this bodes well for The Secret World.

Waiting on The Repopulation.


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12/12/12 7:33:14 AM#12

Originally posted by Zzad
This was probably the best move Funcom could make with TSW!

I´m really happy with their new model,very well done (unlike that horrid FTP model by swtor making you pay for skill

I´ll be buying TSW ^^

I will probably be buying TSW as well. I liked the game, but I didn't want to feel like I had to rush through content because of the sub fee. I really like that they haven't gone with a full-on F2P model.

Here's to hoping it works out well for them. :-)

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I liked what that Joel guy said about trying a subscription, it didn't work, so now they're trying something else. That was a point where you would expect some corporate double talk, but it was a minimal BS statement.

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12/12/12 7:33:46 AM#13
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12/12/12 8:13:22 AM#14

Well thought out decision from Funcom. Especially when they make sure we are comparing their model with SWTOR.


To play SWTOR properly you will need to pay something.


To Play TSW you will need to pay something.


But you will feel less scammed when you pay for TSW.


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12/12/12 8:19:13 AM#15

I like this change very much. Just checked and as a lifer I already have FC points and an item for this month. As long as free points will cover new content I'm really happy with this change. Also playerbase should grow significantly which is a good thing for every MMO.



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12/12/12 8:23:02 AM#16

MMO devs and publishers are slowly learning that you need to maintain a certain mass of people to make these games enjoyable. 


VERY pleased with the model, FAR FAR above that of TOR...If TOR did what funcom is doing, id be back there is a second.


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12/12/12 8:26:36 AM#17
I like this changes. As as lifetimer, I was a bit angry at first, but then I've read carefully about my new benefits. Well, before game was just free for me. Now, I will have some FREE FC points each month  to spare on clothes, rest spend on DLC - if I want to buy it. Awesome. Now I need to think about this 1200 FC points that I already received, hmmm.

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12/12/12 8:30:37 AM#18
Originally posted by Derros

MMO devs and publishers are slowly learning that you need to maintain a certain mass of people to make these games enjoyable. 


VERY pleased with the model, FAR FAR above that of TOR...If TOR did what funcom is doing, id be back there is a second.

Well if this proves as or more profitable than their F2P model, this might just happen with them as well


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12/12/12 9:00:21 AM#19
Originally posted by grimal
Originally posted by Derros

MMO devs and publishers are slowly learning that you need to maintain a certain mass of people to make these games enjoyable. 


VERY pleased with the model, FAR FAR above that of TOR...If TOR did what funcom is doing, id be back there is a second.

Well if this proves as or more profitable than their F2P model, this might just happen with them as well

I do hope this change does influence other MMO companies.  I'm not a cash shop spender but when a company creates good will towards the customer I'm much more inclined to consider the cash shop for furture content.  This is the direct opposite of the feeling I had towards the punitive ftp model for SWTOR.


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12/12/12 9:56:31 AM#20
This is incredible, TSW is a fanatastic game unique in the genre. My time has been full because of GW2, I always wanted to check back but the subscription was a bit of a barrier, simply because of time constraints, now that barrier is gone I now have two great B2P titles to fill what little time I have. Christmas comes early! *Does a happy dance*

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