Originally posted by Senden
Actually, even worse than over-priced festive items, they've even essentially added pay to win space mission items. Sure you can grind them out forever or spend silly amounts on the GTN, but you can now essentially buy space ship epics for real money. Took EA less than a month to introduce p2w stuff, I really shouldn't be surprised. 

Originally posted by mikahr

"Hey folks!

While we're definitely excited about the new Life Day items in the Cartel Market, I wanted to make sure that you all knew that we do not have an in-game event planned for this. However, this doesn't mean that we don't have any in-game events planned for the future! We'll have more information for you sometime after the holidays.

Thank you!"

 

ha ha ha ha. man, you advertise an event and then you have to put disclaimer like this.

I now start to wonder what Ilum "event" will look like lol

I'm just enjoying the warm glow of the flames, sipping on a cocoa and eatin' some marshmallows.

Originally posted by hikaru77

Originally posted by ShakyMo
Lol at helping them make new content faster

We are getting content updates every 6 weeks, is probably the only MMO in the market doing that. If the Cartel Market help them to keep the 6 weeks updates, whats the problem? 

Sorry but that is complete BS.  The only reason they are able to release patches every 6-8 weeks now is because this is all those things they've been working on since before June, F2P, and the mass firings.  And they've already backed off from that and have said to expect 9 weeks for the next few patches.  The reality is that it is easy to release updates faster when you're taking stuff you've finished and sitting on it for months so you can string out the updates.

Look at 1.6.  One new warzone that has been in development for an entire year (which means its probably the last one we will see for another year) and 6 heroic space missions that fewer people will ever see than actually raid.

I'm sorry but Makeb, Cathar, Ancient Hypergates...this is all stuff they've been working on for almost a year now.  This is stuff that was in development long before the cash shop even started development.  We have no idea whether the cash shop will translate into new content faster because we simply aren't there yet.  If in 6 months they're still sticking to the "new content every 6 weeks" schedule, then I'll be impressed.  As it is now they're just stringing out content that is long...looooong overdue.

Originally posted by mikahr

"Hey folks!

While we're definitely excited about the new Life Day items in the Cartel Market, I wanted to make sure that you all knew that we do not have an in-game event planned for this. However, this doesn't mean that we don't have any in-game events planned for the future! We'll have more information for you sometime after the holidays.

Thank you!"

 

I mean, seriously?

Reminds me the 1.6 Livestream Q&A

"Jeff: Our intent right now is to update the Cartel Market weekly. We can do more often if we want to. You saw an update just 2 days ago. We put 1-2 new items on, changed some prices . We are experimenting with what works and what people are expecting. You should see another update next week. 

Jeff: That is the one, I am super excited about it. You guys are going to die when you see it."

The new mount is more or less a re-skin of an existing model.

Honestly I died a little inside when I saw that, especially since they're asking $20ish to get the holiday items (even for subscribers) and don't even have an event.

Seems to me they crossed the fine line here.

Once again did not thought they could dig their grave even deeper.

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Originally posted by theoneandonly
More bad but still publicity. Lets the game die in it slow death. Faster it dies faster we will maybe get new SW.

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I like how you think if a game "fails". Developers want to do it again to see how much money they can waste next time!

According to your logic that is.

Originally posted by Deewe

Originally posted by mikahr

"Hey folks!

While we're definitely excited about the new Life Day items in the Cartel Market, I wanted to make sure that you all knew that we do not have an in-game event planned for this. However, this doesn't mean that we don't have any in-game events planned for the future! We'll have more information for you sometime after the holidays.

Thank you!"

 

I mean, seriously?

 

Reminds me the 1.6 Livestream Q&A

 

"Jeff: Our intent right now is to update the Cartel Market weekly. We can do more often if we want to. You saw an update just 2 days ago. We put 1-2 new items on, changed some prices . We are experimenting with what works and what people are expecting. You should see another update next week. 

Before the holidays, I don’t want to give you an exact date, we got a really big cool update coming.

Damion: We are currently slated for the immediate future a new Cartel Pack every month for the next few months with all new super rare items inside the packs.

Jeff: Oh ya and the stuff we are doing for Life Day, again which you will see before the holidays, are absolutely amazing. Do you have a list of items?

Joveth: I have a list of items right here. Czerka LV-1 Celebrator. 

Jeff: That is the one, I am super excited about it. You guys are going to die when you see it."

 

The new mount is more or less a re-skin of an existing model.

Honestly I died a little inside when I saw that, especially since they're askiing $20ish to get the holiday items (even for subscribers) and don't even have an event.

 

Seems to me they crossed the fine line here.

Once again did not thought they could dig their grave even deeper.

I looked up the interview because I wanted to see it.  The video and the transcript can be found here:

http://dulfy.net/2012/11/29/swtor-patch-1-6-livestream-qa-transcript/

lol

Jeff: Our intent right now is to update the Cartel Market weekly. We can do more often if we want to. You saw an update just 2 days ago. We put 1-2 new items on, changed some prices . We are experimenting with what works and what people are expecting. You should see another update next week.

Before the holidays, I don’t want to give you an exact date, we got a really big cool update coming.

Damion: We are currently slated for the immediate future a new Cartel Pack every month for the next few months with all new super rare items inside the packs.

Jeff: Oh ya and the stuff we are doing for Life Day, again which you will see before the holidays, are absolutely amazing. Do you have a list of items?

Joveth: I have a list of items right here. Czerka LV-1 Celebrator.

Jeff: That is the one, I am super excited about it. You guys are going to die when you see it.

Joveth: We are also going to have Life day robes, Life Day orbs, Life Day Holo Tree and a tensil bomb. We are also going to have them all available in a Life Day Cartel pack.

Jeff: I think that is just the short list, I think there is a bunch more. The Czerka LV-1 Celebrator “laughs”. Let me put it this way, it is red, it is festive, you can ride it, and it is super amazing. It will help with your celebrator..ing.

Damion: To go back a little to the question, we plan to put up a lot of gear on the store and update the gear selection at a fairly frequent pace. The plan will depends primarily on how well the gear does. The next thing we have targeted, I don’t know if it is will be in the next patch, over the next month or so, we are adding in stuff that are more archetypical. Stuff that really look like core Jedi Knight stuff.  The mod system opened up a lot of stuff for us.

LOL This Czerka Model is not my style /grin but yep... you can die from laughing when you see it... it looks like a Xmas Tree /grin

I much prefer my Refer-a-friend speeder LOL... this one is... just too old fashioned... antic....

It's just preview, so quality of pic is not the best... not buying it though.. so bear with me

Originally posted by Sevenstar61

LOL This Czerka Model is not my style /grin but yep... you can die from laughing when you see it... it looks like a Xmas Tree /grin

I much pefer my Refer-a-friend speeder LOL... this one is... just too old fashioned... antic....

 

It's just preview, so quality of pic is not the best... not buying it though.. so bear with me

It looks good actually.  Breaks up the monotony of rehashed vehicles !!

Originally posted by Karteli

Originally posted by Sevenstar61

LOL This Czerka Model is not my style /grin but yep... you can die from laughing when you see it... it looks like a Xmas Tree /grin

I much pefer my Refer-a-friend speeder LOL... this one is... just too old fashioned... antic....

 

It's just preview, so quality of pic is not the best... not buying it though.. so bear with me

It looks good actually.  Breaks up the monotony of rehashed vehicles !!

 

Actually this is a reskin of an existing model. Well they added a few poly for the lights...

Originally posted by Senden
Actually, even worse than over-priced festive items, they've even essentially added pay to win space mission items. Sure you can grind them out forever or spend silly amounts on the GTN, but you can now essentially buy space ship epics for real money. Took EA less than a month to introduce p2w stuff, I really shouldn't be surprised. 

How is P2P when u are the only player doing it?. And maybe you didnt know it, but u can earn 50 fleet coms in maybe 1 hr per day. And if you are good enough, you dont even need all the updates to do the missions. 

I actually agree with the op, it shouldn't be considered okay or normal for this kind of thing to happen but because people just keep letting it happen without letting the devs know, no more we aren't logging in until you fix this, this continues to happen.

Originally posted by apocoluster

  The only thing this trread has done is bring attention to them..and atleast in my case. When I go home tonight and log in..Guess what the first thing Im gonna look at is.

  IF you didnt like it, it might have been a good idea not to bring any attention to it..after all there is no such thing as bad publicity..and you did EA a favor by offering free advertisment.

PWNCAKES

Originally posted by Karteli

Originally posted by Sevenstar61

LOL This Czerka Model is not my style /grin but yep... you can die from laughing when you see it... it looks like a Xmas Tree /grin

I much pefer my Refer-a-friend speeder LOL... this one is... just too old fashioned... antic....

 

It's just preview, so quality of pic is not the best... not buying it though.. so bear with me

It looks good actually.  Breaks up the monotony of rehashed vehicles !!

 

Uhm.. yeah sure... whatever you say LOL

And sorry for typo... I meant Sithmas tree... not Xmas Tree... There is no Xmas in SW... Sithmas though... now that's a completely different story

Originally posted by hikaru77

Originally posted by ShakyMo
Lol at helping them make new content faster

We are getting content updates every 6 weeks, is probably the only MMO in the market doing that. If the Cartel Market help them to keep the 6 weeks updates, whats the problem? 

Too bad that like 4 of these 6 week updates = 1 normal patch for most MMOs. Not to mention I am sure they are still using alot of the content they had built before they fired over half of their staff.  Oh did I mention GW2 has content come out faster and it really has no sub (as in, you don't have to pay a sub to enjoy the game like you do in SWTOR)

At this point its safe to say that you will probably never see class story extended or any kind of real expansion.  I feel like we will see the game get shut down before that happens.

haha

thanks for making this thread - I love reading about EA's corporate bloopers, and there's been so many lately that it's hard to keep track

So that new speeder is a reskin.......but it has xmas lights......

Yeah...very impressive indeed. /sarcasm

Originally posted by Celcius

Originally posted by hikaru77

Originally posted by ShakyMo
Lol at helping them make new content faster

We are getting content updates every 6 weeks, is probably the only MMO in the market doing that. If the Cartel Market help them to keep the 6 weeks updates, whats the problem? 

Too bad that like 4 of these 6 week updates = 1 normal patch for most MMOs. Not to mention I am sure they are still using alot of the content they had built before they fired over half of their staff.  Oh did I mention GW2 has content come out faster and it really has no sub (as in, you don't have to pay a sub to enjoy the game like you do in SWTOR)

At this point its safe to say that you will probably never see class story extended or any kind of real expansion.  I feel like we will see the game get shut down before that happens.

I think its safe to say this poster has never played SWTOR.  Not to be mean but you have no clue what your talking about.  Please why don't you list what GW2 added, then we can compare what SWTOR offered in their updates.  If SWTOR is 4updates=1patch, then GW2 must be 12updates=1 normal patch.    You make these claims but have nothing to back it up with.

 Do a little research before you come on here buddy, how many new flashpoints has TOR added?  How many new OPS has TOR added, 1st research what a flahshpoint is and what ops are.   After you find those answers then keep reading on what else they have updated or added.  

GW2 Added in 5 months:

2 Major Events (Halloween and Karka stuff)

New zone map: Southsun Cove

I forget the number, but during the events they add crazy new Jump Puzzles

1 New PvP Map

Structured PvP changes, enables competitive players to go at it without facerolling pugs.

New stuff on the Black Lion Trade Center such as: Event Costume Skins and The Kit that allows you change the LOOK of your character.

New dungeon mode: Fractals that go on and on until you hit Level 50 fractal, IIRC.

New Ascended Gear

Class Balances (although it's still not enough)

And now, WINTERSDAY event, which will add more itemization to the game and a pretty significant update to World V World

SWTOR added in 1 year:

2 Flashpoints (?) not sure tbh.

2 Warzones

2 Operations

More Cartel Stuff that really still doesn't make much sense to me.

New PvE Zones (Belsavis and Corellia) Dailies I think it was.

ReSkinned tiered gear

ReSkinned Mounts

PvP adjustments (which is still lacking)

I've played SWTOR since I was in beta for a year before launch. Got the CE and all. And honestly, for a P2P game, that's not a lot of content compared to a B2P game that lets you access the WHOLE game with no sub fee.

If anything, I'd compare SWTOR to RIFT as far as how content is implemented.

Originally posted by JKwervo

GW2 Added in 5 months:

2 Major Events (Halloween and Karka stuff)

New zone map: Southsun Cove

I forget the number, but during the events they add crazy new Jump Puzzles

1 New PvP Map

Structured PvP changes, enables competitive players to go at it without facerolling pugs.

New stuff on the Black Lion Trade Center such as: Event Costume Skins and The Kit that allows you change the LOOK of your character.

New dungeon mode: Fractals that go on and on until you hit Level 50 fractal, IIRC.

New Ascended Gear

Class Balances (although it's still not enough)

And now, WINTERSDAY event, which will add more itemization to the game and a pretty significant update to World V World

 

SWTOR added in 1 year:

2 Flashpoints (?) not sure tbh.

2 Warzones

2 Operations

More Cartel Stuff that really still doesn't make much sense to me.

New PvE Zones (Belsavis and Corellia) Dailies I think it was.

ReSkinned tiered gear

ReSkinned Mounts

PvP adjustments (which is still lacking)

 

I've played SWTOR since I was in beta for a year before launch. Got the CE and all. And honestly, for a P2P game, that's not a lot of content compared to a B2P game that lets you access the WHOLE game with no sub fee.

If anything, I'd compare SWTOR to RIFT as far as how content is implemented.

You forgot about 2 events: Rakghoul Invasion  and Grant Acquisitin.

Also Event - Acquiring HK-51 - was an event itself - very interesting serie of quests.

Belsavis has 2 daily quests areas, they recently added Section X with the new World Boss and very difficult Heroic 4 quests with puzzles.

Heroic Space Missions - 6 per each section.

Edit: The page saved on me while I was replying... so it got messed up.

Originally posted by hockey98

Originally posted by Celcius

Originally posted by hikaru77

Originally posted by ShakyMo
Lol at helping them make new content faster

We are getting content updates every 6 weeks, is probably the only MMO in the market doing that. If the Cartel Market help them to keep the 6 weeks updates, whats the problem? 

Too bad that like 4 of these 6 week updates = 1 normal patch for most MMOs. Not to mention I am sure they are still using alot of the content they had built before they fired over half of their staff.  Oh did I mention GW2 has content come out faster and it really has no sub (as in, you don't have to pay a sub to enjoy the game like you do in SWTOR)

At this point its safe to say that you will probably never see class story extended or any kind of real expansion.  I feel like we will see the game get shut down before that happens.

I think its safe to say this poster has never played SWTOR.  Not to be mean but you have no clue what your talking about.  Please why don't you list what GW2 added, then we can compare what SWTOR offered in their updates.  If SWTOR is 4updates=1patch, then GW2 must be 12updates=1 normal patch.    You make these claims but have nothing to back it up with.

 

 Do a little research before you come on here buddy, how many new flashpoints has TOR added?  How many new OPS has TOR added, 1st research what a flahshpoint is and what ops are.   After you find those answers then keep reading on what else they have updated or added.  

If you are happy with the pace and qaulity of the games updates that's fine, but even the developers admit they have been to slow getting stuff out.  the GW2 comparision I could care less about, all that matters is that this has been a problem for swtor since release.  Even today's update consists of basically 1 warzone that was first announced months ago-  still no Ilum fix, makeb, cathar, many bugs still un-squashed.  To defend them on this doesn't seem reasonable when even Bioware wouldn't.