Im quiet supprised that EveOnline is missing from the list.

Also GW2 is just getting too much attention, which it shouldn't deserve.

This year was again a year of themeparks... sadly, hope that changes for the next year.

Originally posted by Kuppa

Originally posted by Rayshe

I would concede to that. There have most definately been Innovations in games not listed. the main reason they arent listed is because they aren't big enough for people to really know about them.

 

Also in truth of the gaming industry we seem to look at it as "This game released with it first so it was their idea" which is quite possibly not true. Take a game that has been in production for years, Some joe hears about the idea and releases something horrible in several months before the game is released using their idea. it is suddenly seen as joe's idea even though the other game techincally was making something for it first. With that i tend to say Anyone who put something forward of the idea (since i know other games have tried the classes thing) within its first year of release gets credit. 

 

 

And before someone tries to put the words of GOTY in my mouth. My opinion only relates to most innovative, Due to the massive Support GW2 had even before its release i do feel it deserves the title of GOTY.

Well, I'm talking about both games in the list and not on the list. They are there for a reason. Probably none flat out innovated in a way were they came up with something totally new that was great, but they innovated in providing something that was maybe already done but with a twist. Or took something that is old and made it feel like new again. I find that to be innovation as well.

Quite true specially once we move out of the MMORPG genre you will see these things out there in force. I think the main thing that bothered me was the stated he said about NONE of the games being innovative which in truth is a flat out lie.

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What new things has TSW tried? Someone else did it all years ago so nothing new there aka nothing innovative.

To be innovative you have to be the first with a new thing and not years late with something old.

Oh please bring forward these games. i would very much like to see them. The only one that i can clearly see was Tera with the reticle combat. and even then i dont think that close enough to be consitered the same.

Originally posted by Rayshe

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What new things has TSW tried? Someone else did it all years ago so nothing new there aka nothing innovative.

To be innovative you have to be the first with a new thing and not years late with something old.

 

 

Oh please bring forward these games. i would very much like to see them. The only one that i can clearly see was Tera with the reticle combat. and even then i dont think that close enough to be consitered the same.

 

Wurm Online for one of many: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wurm_Online

Originally posted by LlexX

Im quiet supprised that EveOnline is missing from the list.

Also GW2 is just getting too much attention, which it shouldn't deserve.

This year was again a year of themeparks... sadly, hope that changes for the next year.

Eve is not a new game - hence it should not be on the list.

Just becaue you don't like GW2 does not mean it shouldn't get this attention. In fact, I feel it is not getting enough attention now!

Played Wurm Online, They are nothing alike. For one you are compareing a Sandbox to a themepark. Also while there is no classes there is also not much of anything else in that area other than click to start attacking. And the other parts of Wurm online attribute to the sandbox style.

Simply put the game isnt compareible and i prefer having TSW's classless rather than Wurm's Lack of everything.

Given the arguement i've had meny a time, i don't feel like Themeparks and Sandboxes should ever be compared. The approch is far to different to be able to compare anything of the sort. Dont get me wrong i like sandboxes, played FoM, Wurm, and Eve for 2 years apiece.

I think the best way we are gonna end the argument is by saying that there needs to be 2 catagories for innovations One for Sandbox and one for Themepark.

Originally posted by botrytis

Originally posted by LlexX

Im quiet supprised that EveOnline is missing from the list.

Also GW2 is just getting too much attention, which it shouldn't deserve.

This year was again a year of themeparks... sadly, hope that changes for the next year.

Eve is not a new game - hence it should not be on the list.

 

Just becaue you don't like GW2 does not mean it shouldn't get this attention. In fact, I feel it is not getting enough attention now!

Feel the same way about TSW, Sadly i feel TSW and GW2 were the 2 top games released this year. However since we are consitered Niche and the raging hatred of Funcom, we never really stood a chance at GOTY. im happy atleast with innovative.

Originally posted by Rayshe

Played Wurm Online, They are nothing alike. For one you are compareing a Sandbox to a themepark. Also while there is no classes there is also not much of anything else in that area other than click to start attacking. And the other parts of Wurm online attribute to the sandbox style.

 

Simply put the game isnt compareible and i prefer having TSW's classless rather than Wurm's Lack of everything.

 

Given the arguement i've had meny a time, i don't feel like Themeparks and Sandboxes should ever be compared. The approch is far to different to be able to compare anything of the sort. Dont get me wrong i like sandboxes, played FoM, Wurm, and Eve for 2 years apiece.

 

I think the best way we are gonna end the argument is by saying that there needs to be 2 catagories for innovations One for Sandbox and one for Themepark.

Originally posted by MikeB

Originally posted by Kabaal

Sadly the choices in some of the categories are lacking this year. It felt like choosing between "meh" and "ok". Star Citizen was however clear cut, can't wait to see what they do with the game.

What games would you have liked to see that we didn't have in there?

Originally posted by rajadog20
I don't get it, how is TSW beating Storm Legion?

i play both. voted TSW.

Originally posted by rajadog20
I don't get it, how is TSW beating Storm Legion?

Which catagory are you talking about.

If its Innovation then the Dimension Idea was done in CoH a long time ago. not to the same extent but its been done in a themepark already.

Edit - NVM its only listed in GOTY. Maybe its our nicheness?

Originally posted by MikeB

Originally posted by Kabaal

Sadly the choices in some of the categories are lacking this year. It felt like choosing between "meh" and "ok". Star Citizen was however clear cut, can't wait to see what they do with the game.

What games would you have liked to see that we didn't have in there?

Since you included WoW's Pandaria, why not put in EVE Online? It had great expansion this year and its still arguably the best MMORPG

Originally posted by Rimmersman

Originally posted by MikeB

Originally posted by Kabaal

Sadly the choices in some of the categories are lacking this year. It felt like choosing between "meh" and "ok". Star Citizen was however clear cut, can't wait to see what they do with the game.

What games would you have liked to see that we didn't have in there?

 

Age Of Wushu for a start, it has some features never seen in any MMO. Archeage has a prison system, so does AOW, Age Of Wushu has an offline features that leave your character in the game after you log off . You can become a merchant or gain cultivation points, you can also be kidnaped by PKs who can then sell you into slavery for money. Age Of Wushu also has farming like Archeage, in fact it has many features like Archeage. If GW2 had these features you wouldn't stop talking about them, instead of three GW2 write up in a day we would be getting five.

I will agree with you there however not for innovation. Please dont take this as the cop out it sounds like. It really should be listed in Anticipated but not any other catagory because its still in development.

Originally posted by Rayshe

Played Wurm Online, They are nothing alike. For one you are compareing a Sandbox to a themepark. Also while there is no classes there is also not much of anything else in that area other than click to start attacking. And the other parts of Wurm online attribute to the sandbox style.

 

Simply put the game isnt compareible and i prefer having TSW's classless rather than Wurm's Lack of everything.

 

Given the arguement i've had meny a time, i don't feel like Themeparks and Sandboxes should ever be compared. The approch is far to different to be able to compare anything of the sort. Dont get me wrong i like sandboxes, played FoM, Wurm, and Eve for 2 years apiece.

 

I think the best way we are gonna end the argument is by saying that there needs to be 2 catagories for innovations One for Sandbox and one for Themepark.

Wurm Online is innovative TSW is not so they have nothing in common and as you say TSW is a themepark so it can never be innovative.