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12/10/12 10:41:24 AM#61
You don't have to be permenantly online to play skyrim. Just the first time you run it and every Month or so after that.
Now uplay (ubisofts store) and battlenet (on newer blizzard games) do require permenant online. Also things like origin (eas store) has locked people completely out of gamrs they've bought due to getting banned in multiplayer. Then there was sonys drm that provided a back door for viruses by being a rootkit and microsofts hideously unnavigable xbox style drm. Compared to the competition steams drm is actually pretty fair and I'm glad the likes of 2k and zenimax work with it instead of making another bloody store. One good thing with steam compared to the others, in the contract there is a clause to give you the dvd isos if valve ever went bankrupt. You will get drm on pc games, people want to make money, Blame the pirates. steam is way less draconian than the competition though as it let's you install on multiple machines and stuff (providing you only play on one at a time) I also like gog which is drm free, but cdprojekts own games apart gog is mostly old games and a few indie games, your not going to get something like dishonoured on gog. 1 thing they need to do though, if a games on steam valve need to hassle them to remove their own drm, nothing more annoying than installing a Microsoft, ea or ubisoft game through steam and having to navigate both steam and origin/uplay/gfwl especially as they are clunkier and more draconian stores than steam. |
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12/10/12 10:42:15 AM#62
Pre-order from Amazon.com. And how does one play when their internet service goes down? I have yet to find a service that is up 24/7/365. - Al Personally the only modern MMORPG trend that annoys me is the idea that MMOs need to be designed in a way to attract people who don't actually like MMOs. Which to me makes about as much sense as someone trying to figure out a way to get vegetarians to eat at their steakhouse. |
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Karahandras
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Joined: 8/11/08
All it takes for evil to succeed is for the good to stand by and do nothing |
12/10/12 10:44:49 AM#63
Originally posted by AlBQuirky
Want to add I have no problem with steam as a retailer or even if this was an otpional extra for steam users. And it does seem that people think that steam is the only place that ever has sales? The over download sites, online box sellers and actual shops all have sales it's not a steam exclusive thing. |
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12/10/12 10:57:41 AM#64
Originally posted by DancingQueen
You dont know what you are talking about, you want steam to diagnose problems with your computer? That is not what it is for.. it connects to the internet, if there is no connection there then it tells you, as far as it knew there was no internet as your firewall was stopping it.. At some ponit when you first run steam with that firewall i would have thought your firewall software would ahve popped up with a message like "Hey we have blocked steam from accessing the internet, do you want to keep blocking it or unlock it?"
You probally kicked keep blocking it.
IF your haiving to fill somthing out every time you post on here then there is somthing else wrong with your PC. All I have to do on any PC i use is log in using my username and password then I am free to post what I like. Maybe yuor security software is also deleting cookies on the fly or somthing so the website is not saving your details. |
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12/10/12 11:14:41 AM#65
Kara
Space marine is a thq game They use microsofts gfwl |
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12/10/12 11:16:22 AM#66
Caldrin
Although steam us good for technophobes in otherways it updates your video drivers and direct x and wotnot. |
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12/10/12 11:18:23 AM#67
Also steamworkshop on valve, bethseda, 2k etc.. games safer than looking all over the net for mods.
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Originally posted by Caldrin I never receaved any message that steam was blocked. |
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12/10/12 12:52:00 PM#69
why say steam gaming is pc gaming nowadays?
in your title you complain about that "pc gaming is crap these days"... seriously, most of my games do NOT require steam to play em. some do, and they actually work quite fine.
that's why alot of devs "only" develop on consoles, you have a set hardware and try to minimize the pebiac problem ^^ on the other hand... consoles are consoles. i will always prefer a pc to a console.
it gives me options. and that's the prob you got, too many options, one is set wrong :)
ps: afaik portal 2 for example was released for the ps3 via steam too, so... maybe you get what i mean *G* "I'll never grow up, never grow up, never grow up! Not me!" |
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12/10/12 5:48:09 PM#70
1 word
Indygamestand ''/\/\'' Posted using Iphone bunni |
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12/10/12 6:25:46 PM#71
A good program wouldn't even be looking at your firewall settings. It would probably take a malicious program to have access to them. It's fine to not like Steam. Lots of people don't like Steam. Blaming Steam for not knowing how Windows works and expecting Steam to behave in a way that is actually bad for you isn't going to help you with anything though. There are other games that will behave exactly the same way if you click through the popup window that asks you if you want to continue blocking the application or not. It is to your own benefit to learn how that works, and to be able to recognize these kinds of things in the future. Join the League For Gamers. |
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12/10/12 6:34:18 PM#72
I am trying to stick with consoles and handhelds, at least with games I purchase there, I can resell them when I get done playing if I choose to do so. PC gaming nowadays is a money pit that I cannot recoup any money on with the games since the majority are on services like steam. I will buy games though when they get really cheap, like $10 or under for the pc if it is a game I really want. But no way would I ever pay full or close to full retail for any PC game nowadays. |
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12/10/12 7:19:33 PM#73
Yeas but pc games are 33% cheaper than console games.
Plus you get mods and what have you. |
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12/10/12 7:21:09 PM#74
Oh and let's not forget steam sales. Check it out over Christmas for some games a few months old like say dishonoured or Xcom. No way on earth you will get a console version that cheap.
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12/10/12 7:22:55 PM#75
And xbox live fees.
If you buy a lot of games pc gaming is cheaper than console gaming. Especially if you like multiplayer vs the xbox. |
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12/10/12 7:24:56 PM#76
I hate alot of things, but I LOVE Steam.
"Don't tell me what to do! , you're not my mod" Saying invented by me. |
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12/10/12 7:36:15 PM#77
As we continue the move into a time where the digital distribution of media such as games becomes the preferred means of acquiring the product by the majority of consumers I find STEAM to be my best alternative. I support it in preference to Windows developing Marketplace system and EA’s Origin. It is most certainly a step up from the days of STARFORCE DRM in spite of the problems some people express with the current digital distribution models.
I prefer digital to the days when I would go to GameStop or Babbages and pull a box off the shelf only to worry over if the employees had stolen the disks from the box or scratched them to bits while trying to put them back in too.
STEAM is typically problem free for me. I would suggest you get help from their technical support or a geeky-gaming friend. :) |
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12/10/12 7:38:51 PM#78
Originally posted by DancingQueen Steam wasn't created to teach you how to use a computer |
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12/11/12 7:36:12 AM#79
SOOOO funny that our buddy DancingQueen has started a new thread that says how much he hates Steam.
Dude, maybe if you spent less time complaining about Steam and playing games on Steam you would stop hating it. |
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12/11/12 7:40:14 AM#80
Op seems to have a special fondness for the word "crap". Two posts at the top of the topics. |
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Someone bought me a physical copy of space marine last year. Took 3 days for steam to recognise my details(had an account for a few years btw) then another 14hrs whilst it drip fed me a patch i had no interest in. Spent longer getting the game installed than I did playing it now it's just sitting there doing nothing. Certain devs now seem to be using steam etc. to release unfinished products then force patch them later on. Balls to drm.
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