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Darkfall: Unholy Wars

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  muffins89

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12/08/12 3:25:26 PM#21
Originally posted by kadepsyson

No worries about them being a small company.  If they are unsure if they can hit the date, they can do several things -

1.  Mention nothing until really close to the date, and then delay

2.  Mention they are struggling, but still trying to hit the date.  Communicate.

3.  Mention as soon as they have doubts a slight delay so they can be sure they can hit it.  Possibly release a bit earlier or allow preloading if they get done sooner.

 

Seems they are going with option 1.  No communication.

look brah.  you'll the game when it comes out.  why do they have to communicate more than they have?  just because you want them to? 

I think the prostitute mod corrupted your game files man. -elhefen

  Melgaroth

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12/08/12 3:36:52 PM#22
Originally posted by kadepsyson
Originally posted by Melgaroth
Originally posted by kadepsyson

No worries about them being a small company.  If they are unsure if they can hit the date, they can do several things -

1.  Mention nothing until really close to the date, and then delay

2.  Mention they are struggling, but still trying to hit the date.  Communicate.

3.  Mention as soon as they have doubts a slight delay so they can be sure they can hit it.  Possibly release a bit earlier or allow preloading if they get done sooner.

 

Seems they are going with option 1.  No communication.

Or..

4. Work on getting the game out. Not worry about communication because they already have communicated the game is launching on 12/12/12. 

Seriously do you want hourly updates on what they are doing? Live streaming of them working on the game? I'll admit that would be cool and I always welcome information from them about whats going on, but realistically I would rather them bust their asses over the weekend and into next week to launch the game that I really want to play instead of baby sitting whiners on the forums.

It does not take much time at all to write a sentence or two.  I've done it several times in this thread.  AV could easily say "We are on track for the 12/12/12 release date!  Info on subscriptions and time of day for release coming tomorrow!"

It doesn't take much at all.  If they seriously have to spend every second to work on the game from now til release with NO time for two sentences, then they should delay.

I understand where you are coming from, I really do. As a long time Darkfall player I know their communication skills to be very lacking. On the flip side I know they are working at a frantic pace to get this game out. I simply choose to ignore the lack of communication and have faith that they will deliver. Also I try not to be critical and bitter over video games.

  Cstahler92

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12/08/12 5:12:39 PM#23
Stopped reading after Le. Why do people do that? It is completely stupid and ruins the whole joke.
  sly-sudo

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12/08/12 8:10:22 PM#24

I don't mean to sound tactless with this comment, but AV doesn't have an excuse if they screw this up again. They've gained the experience from the first launch debacle. 

That being said, if the game is delayed, then I'll happily wait just like everyone else to play this game. I haven't found another MMO that replicates the enjoyment that I derived from the first iteration. I have plenty of other things to do to bide my time, like spending time with my significant other, studying mathematics, playing Borderlands 2 DLC, Counterstrike: GO, old SNES titles, Skyrim (I have yet to beat Skyrim), and so forth. 

I know that everyone is excited, but if it's delayed then no harm done. AV isn't selling this game at full price to most of us because if I understand correctly, those who bought the game are essentially obtaining the game for free minus the subscription cost, so no harm done. Those who didn't buy the game will, from what I understand, will not being paying $49.99 (or for those in Europe, VAT plus normal price of a new release). but some reduced cost (jury is still out about this obscure fact from what I understand). 

This is probably going to sound bizarre, but I can see the good in not offering preorders this close to release, so I don't think anyone can complain about losing money on the purchase. Also, from the underlined statement, I really think that AV is trying to avoid the billing issues from the first launch. That being said, there's no excuse for the lack of concrete information regarding subscription cost and initial purchase price.

With everything being said, most of our comments are just pure speculation. I advise a hot shower and a few nights out with friends and just forget about the release until we actually get some hard data on the details.

  pdabb38

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12/08/12 9:25:01 PM#25
how many players(accounts) can the starter zones handle at launch. I wouldn't be suprised if they hade to limit the number of new accounts per day at launch.
  Melgaroth

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12/08/12 10:13:27 PM#26
Originally posted by pdabb38
how many players(accounts) can the starter zones handle at launch. I wouldn't be suprised if they hade to limit the number of new accounts per day at launch.

There are 6 starter area's with a capital in each and 3 sub cities for the new NPC factions in the game. Also I believe there is a new player tutorial set in another area outside the main continents. This should filter people slowly into the game at launch and not all at once. So you're looking at people being spread over a possible 24 starting area's.

Also note the fact that Darkfall's engine does not use any kind of artificial limitation on how many players you can see at any given time like some games do. For example even GW 2 which is a state-of-the-art new game does this in WvWvW PVP. Darkfall is designed to have hundreds and hundreds of players in the same area and on screen without creating too many problems server side, your own machine might suffer though if its an older rig.

  winter

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12/08/12 10:19:51 PM#27
Originally posted by Melgaroth

Hi,
One point to make before the developer diary: I know that I said in the MMORPG.com Q&A that pre-orders were to launch this week, and we really tried until a little while ago before having to accept defeat, a combination of things (most we could not control since there are 3 companies working on this) made it impossible. Obviously our main focus is on the actual game, but this was important as well, so it’s frustrating for us, as I’m sure it is for you. So will we still do a pre-order before launch at this late date? Perhaps if this can be done on Monday so we can break up the buying traffic before the launch day and make sure everything is working right, and give you the ability to reserve your character name beforehand. There will be people working on this over the weekend here, at the provider and at our billing processor’s, so we hope we’ll be able to have the option on Monday.

Above is from the Darkfall Blog. Bolded area is what makes me certain they are still aiming for 12/12. They did not mention a push back also. 

  You do know they said something simular when they missed their second releqase date for Darkfall 1.0 as well

 If they actually make next weeks projected release  date great! they will show that they have become a better company. On the other hand if you believe everything a game developer tells you then your in for alot of upsets in life.

  Melgaroth

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12/08/12 10:27:40 PM#28
Originally posted by winter
Originally posted by Melgaroth

Hi,
One point to make before the developer diary: I know that I said in the MMORPG.com Q&A that pre-orders were to launch this week, and we really tried until a little while ago before having to accept defeat, a combination of things (most we could not control since there are 3 companies working on this) made it impossible. Obviously our main focus is on the actual game, but this was important as well, so it’s frustrating for us, as I’m sure it is for you. So will we still do a pre-order before launch at this late date? Perhaps if this can be done on Monday so we can break up the buying traffic before the launch day and make sure everything is working right, and give you the ability to reserve your character name beforehand. There will be people working on this over the weekend here, at the provider and at our billing processor’s, so we hope we’ll be able to have the option on Monday.

Above is from the Darkfall Blog. Bolded area is what makes me certain they are still aiming for 12/12. They did not mention a push back also. 

  You do know they said something simular when they missed their second releqase date for Darkfall 1.0 as well

 If they actually make next weeks projected release  date great! they will show that they have become a better company. On the other hand if you believe everything a game developer tells you then your in for alot of upsets in life.

/sarcasm on

Ya man i'm probably gonna cry myself to sleep if they don't make the date. Thanks for the sage advice my hopes and dreams were riding on this date until you showed me the error of my ways.

/sarcasm off

Ok but seriously if they don't make it thats fine, probably a good reason. They messed it up last time, true.  I know its going to be a great game regardless and hope everyone else can enjoy it too and we can all slay each other in harmony.

  Raxeon

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12/09/12 1:49:33 AM#29
they only missed on release date for df 1.0 and it was the jan 1
  DarthRaiden

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12/09/12 10:15:34 AM#30

they 2 months without income.

investors will force em to launch, regardless of bugs etc.. if server running and clients can be handout the will release or they in economic big trouble.

 

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  SirBalin

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12/09/12 10:17:53 AM#31
Originally posted by Melgaroth
Sorry not gonna happen. They already confirmed Friday its launching next week. Last time they delayed it was 6 days before launch. Most it will get delayed is maybe a few days IMHO and that would only be cause the servers crashed due to too many people trying to play. 

They never confirmed anything Friday, all they did was put a video out regarding clans. 

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  SirBalin

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12/09/12 10:19:45 AM#32
Originally posted by Melgaroth

Hi,
One point to make before the developer diary: I know that I said in the MMORPG.com Q&A that pre-orders were to launch this week, and we really tried until a little while ago before having to accept defeat, a combination of things (most we could not control since there are 3 companies working on this) made it impossible. Obviously our main focus is on the actual game, but this was important as well, so it’s frustrating for us, as I’m sure it is for you. So will we still do a pre-order before launch at this late date? Perhaps if this can be done on Monday so we can break up the buying traffic before the launch day and make sure everything is working right, and give you the ability to reserve your character name beforehand. There will be people working on this over the weekend here, at the provider and at our billing processor’s, so we hope we’ll be able to have the option on Monday.

Above is from the Darkfall Blog. Bolded area is what makes me certain they are still aiming for 12/12. They did not mention a push back also. 

Oh, touche...lol

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  gravesworn

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12/09/12 11:38:32 AM#33
I was under the impression that they were releasing it for those who owned the first game. Then opening it up at a later date for purchase.
  Kaminaxius

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12/09/12 1:24:51 PM#34
Originally posted by gravesworn
I was under the impression that they were releasing it for those who owned the first game. Then opening it up at a later date for purchase.

This is false. Everyone will be able to purchase the game at release.

  Cecropia

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12/09/12 1:57:10 PM#35
Originally posted by Kaminaxius
Originally posted by gravesworn
I was under the impression that they were releasing it for those who owned the first game. Then opening it up at a later date for purchase.

This is false. Everyone will be able to purchase the game at release.

I'm not saying you're wrong, but has AV comfirmed this yet? I've been wondering about this for a bit now.

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  Coman

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12/09/12 2:28:28 PM#36
Originally posted by Cecropia
Originally posted by Kaminaxius
Originally posted by gravesworn
I was under the impression that they were releasing it for those who owned the first game. Then opening it up at a later date for purchase.

This is false. Everyone will be able to purchase the game at release.

I'm not saying you're wrong, but has AV comfirmed this yet? I've been wondering about this for a bit now.

Well considering that people do not have to rebuy the game and they going to have pre-orders would make me figure that they will allow new poeple in as well? 

Does not say anything for sure, but would be strange if they allow poeple to pre-order then. Then again it's AV you can never be sure with them :P

  Melgaroth

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12/09/12 3:23:28 PM#37
Originally posted by Cecropia
Originally posted by Kaminaxius
Originally posted by gravesworn
I was under the impression that they were releasing it for those who owned the first game. Then opening it up at a later date for purchase.

This is false. Everyone will be able to purchase the game at release.

I'm not saying you're wrong, but has AV comfirmed this yet? I've been wondering about this for a bit now.

Tasos confirmed this in his recent MMORPG.com interview.

  Cecropia

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12/09/12 3:33:38 PM#38
Originally posted by Melgaroth

Tasos confirmed this in his recent MMORPG.com interview.

Thank you, Melgaroth. I should have already watched that interview by now, guess I have some catching up to do.

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  ironhelix

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12/09/12 3:46:40 PM#39
I'm not saying that it won't go live on the 12th, but I don't understand how some of you are so SURE that it will. I mean, we are talking about a company that is absolutely LEGENDARY for missing any kind of date or deadline. For fuck's sake, aren't we all supposed to be playing Darkfall 2010 right now? Forgive me if I am doubtful that they are just going to launch the game in 2 days with ZERO word on how the software will be distributed, or how we are to pay for it, or ANYTHING. Maybe we will be playing it on Wednesday, maybe we won't, no one fucking knows... that probably includes Aventurine.
  Justin9820

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12/09/12 3:55:52 PM#40
Originally posted by ironhelix
I'm not saying that it won't go live on the 12th, but I don't understand how some of you are so SURE that it will. I mean, we are talking about a company that is absolutely LEGENDARY for missing any kind of date or deadline. For fuck's sake, aren't we all supposed to be playing Darkfall 2010 right now? Forgive me if I am doubtful that they are just going to launch the game in 2 days with ZERO word on how the software will be distributed, or how we are to pay for it, or ANYTHING. Maybe we will be playing it on Wednesday, maybe we won't, no one fucking knows... that probably includes Aventurine.

well since you missed the information, i will state it here.

I'm not willing to give a link for where they said this, simply because i dont want to try to find it. They said they will be doing a digital download only release, and with that im assuming the payment option with be the usual credit card or paypal type of thing.

 

As for the people who seem sure that it will launch wednesday, i have to say that although i wouldn't guarentee it, it is looking very promising.

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