Originally posted by Panther2103

Originally posted by Cecropia

Originally posted by Hrimnir

Originally posted by Ramonski7

Originally posted by Hrimnir

Originally posted by Roxtarr
As long as Trion hasn't bitten off more than they can chew.

Its Trion.  They're the only reliable MMO developer that exists right now.

To each his own I guess...

 

Its not a to each his own situation.  Developers being reliable or not is something thats easily quantifiable.  Just because someone doesnt like the companies products for whatever reason doesnt make them unreliable.  I for example hate Apple with every fiber of my being, but to try to state that they dont make quality products would be foolish and stupid.

Give credit where credit is due.

Yeah, I have to back you up on that. While I'm not a huge fan of Rift, I cannot ignore the fact that Trion did indeed release a very polished and well developed MMO. This isn't something that is exactly commonplace in the genre these days.

It will be interesting to see what impact a studio like Trion will have on a game like End of Nations.

To further add on to that, the game isn't jumping with population like some games, but they have consistantly developed large updates for the game in a timely manner that were polished as well. Showing if you love your games that you develop you can put the time into them to release solid and not buggy content

Their patches have actually gotten buggier as time has gone on.  The conquest patch in particular was pretty bad.  SL has had its share of bugs too, but theyve been pretty fast squishing them.  Still, Trion isnt this saint of bug-free content.

But as far as the bitten off more than they can chew comment:

1.  Trion now either has to hire more people or take devs off of defiance or rift.

2.   Rift's dev team was built as a MMORPG veteran squad.  Tons of talents from different games.  They have experience developing MMORPGs.  That does not mean they will be as good at doing RTS.

Originally posted by Ramonski7

Originally posted by Hrimnir

Originally posted by Ramonski7

Originally posted by Hrimnir

Originally posted by Roxtarr
As long as Trion hasn't bitten off more than they can chew.

Its Trion.  They're the only reliable MMO developer that exists right now.

To each his own I guess...

 

Its not a to each his own situation.  Developers being reliable or not is something thats easily quantifiable.  Just because someone doesnt like the companies products for whatever reason doesnt make them unreliable.  I for example hate Apple with every fiber of my being, but to try to state that they dont make quality products would be foolish and stupid.

Give credit where credit is due.

Every person is entitled to his or her personal preferences and tastes. That's what "To each his own" means. Another way to put it: That's your opinion

Which is fine when we're talking about something that is subjective vs objective.  Whether or not you like candy apple red as a paint color for a car vs navy blue is a matter of personal preference vs taste.  But when we're talking about lets say how many lb's of weight a steel cable can hold before snapping, thats something that is measurable and quantifiable.

You can't sit there and go "well, i don't like john's steel company, so even though his cable can hold 600lb's before snapping, i'm going to say its shitty cable.  But i like ted's steel company, and their cable also holds 600lb's before snapping, but i'm to say its good cable".  It doesnt work that way if the discussion is on how much weight the cable can hold before it snaps.

John's steel company can have the worst service in the world, paint the cable bright orange and pink, and sell it for 2 times as much as ted's cable, but if it still holds the same amount of weight before snapping as ted's, you can't say its shitty cable.

Originally posted by Hrimnir

Originally posted by Ramonski7

Originally posted by Hrimnir

Originally posted by Ramonski7

Originally posted by Hrimnir

Originally posted by Roxtarr
As long as Trion hasn't bitten off more than they can chew.

Its Trion.  They're the only reliable MMO developer that exists right now.

To each his own I guess...

 

Its not a to each his own situation.  Developers being reliable or not is something thats easily quantifiable.  Just because someone doesnt like the companies products for whatever reason doesnt make them unreliable.  I for example hate Apple with every fiber of my being, but to try to state that they dont make quality products would be foolish and stupid.

Give credit where credit is due.

Every person is entitled to his or her personal preferences and tastes. That's what "To each his own" means. Another way to put it: That's your opinion

Which is fine when we're talking about something that is subjective vs objective.  Whether or not you like candy apple red as a paint color for a car vs navy blue is a matter of personal preference vs taste.  But when we're talking about lets say how many lb's of weight a steel cable can hold before snapping, thats something that is measurable and quantifiable.

You can't sit there and go "well, i don't like john's steel company, so even though his cable can hold 600lb's before snapping, i'm going to say its shitty cable.  But i like ted's steel company, and their cable also holds 600lb's before snapping, but i'm to say its good cable".  It doesnt work that way if the discussion is on how much weight the cable can hold before it snaps.

John's steel company can have the worst service in the world, paint the cable bright orange and pink, and sell it for 2 times as much as ted's cable, but if it still holds the same amount of weight before snapping as ted's, you can't say its shitty cable.

While this is a funny argument, I understand what your saying, reliability is not an opinion. I also happen to agree with your views of trion even though I no longer play rift. But you intial statement was opinion "Its Trion.  They're the only reliable MMO developer that exists right now" you did not call them reliable, you said they are the only reliable dev right now = opinion ;) so to each his own is an appropriate response.

I happen to disagree with them being the only reliable dev right now. There are plenty reliable ones, however their products don't happen to tickle your fancy.

Originally posted by Hrimnir

Originally posted by Ramonski7

Originally posted by Hrimnir

Originally posted by Roxtarr
As long as Trion hasn't bitten off more than they can chew.

Its Trion.  They're the only reliable MMO developer that exists right now.

To each his own I guess...

 

Its not a to each his own situation.  Developers being reliable or not is something thats easily quantifiable.  Just because someone doesnt like the companies products for whatever reason doesnt make them unreliable.  I for example hate Apple with every fiber of my being, but to try to state that they dont make quality products would be foolish and stupid.

Give credit where credit is due.

Well then you are wearing blinders, there are other reliable developers out there.  As to Trion, I find their games only average.  I see little innovation from them, just more of the same.  You have to be willing to step out of the box and do what others are not.  Trion is not willing to take that chance.

As to End of Nations,  it is very difficult to make a MMORTS, those type of games don't lend themselves to the MMO theatre very well.