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  deathshroud

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OP  12/08/12 10:42:46 AM#1

http://www.mortalonline.com/donations

 

 

the grey halls seems to be a mini expansion to MO that will only get added to the game once they recieve x number of donations.

 

Its supposedly not slowing down the developers by developing this content alongside other features but i just cant see how with only 3 developers making anything that isnt essential wont slow down development. Unless of course the content was almost fully complete being left over from the awakening expansion and through donations they seen a chance to increase their funds by pursuading their already loyal playerbase into parting with more money.

 

http://www.mortalonline.com/donations/greyhalls this link is what the donators have to go on to determine if they should donate. Not very much at all.

there are 2 types of mmo, imitators and innovaters.

  mothefo

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12/08/12 10:51:46 AM#2

wait so this game has just gone F2P, and now it's asking people to pre-pay if they want a chance to get new content? not even guaranteed content....."if we get enough money content", otherwise thanks for the donation......

 

that is hysterical.

 

  deathshroud

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OP  12/08/12 11:00:19 AM#3
well the content will be accesable to all even if you didnt donate, but it is abit much asking for donations for content to be added when the game seriously needs both content and bug fixing/polishing.

there are 2 types of mmo, imitators and innovaters.

  Hancakes

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12/08/12 11:01:15 AM#4

How can it not be slowing down the other development? ie FIXING the game

 

  w4ffl3

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12/08/12 12:54:07 PM#5
Wow, it went from needing $974 to funded in one day... and it looks like it's all from Aralis' donation.  Dude was on the top of the rankings last month too, with a $2500 donation, he must have a lot of money, and be willing to throw it away.  Man, I  can overpromise and underdeliver just like Henrik, why not toss me a few grand :P
  argirop

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12/08/12 1:04:34 PM#6
Originally posted by Hancakes

How can it not be slowing down the other development? ie FIXING the game

 

My dear friend Hancakes, if i had a beautiful sister i would be happy to give her to you. This one made my day !

  Hancakes

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12/08/12 11:54:34 PM#7
Originally posted by w4ffl3
Wow, it went from needing $974 to funded in one day... and it looks like it's all from Aralis' donation.  Dude was on the top of the rankings last month too, with a $2500 donation, he must have a lot of money, and be willing to throw it away.  Man, I  can overpromise and underdeliver just like Henrik, why not toss me a few grand :P

Did you model underwear?

  w4ffl3

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12/09/12 10:27:32 AM#8
Originally posted by Hancakes
Originally posted by w4ffl3
Wow, it went from needing $974 to funded in one day... and it looks like it's all from Aralis' donation.  Dude was on the top of the rankings last month too, with a $2500 donation, he must have a lot of money, and be willing to throw it away.  Man, I  can overpromise and underdeliver just like Henrik, why not toss me a few grand :P

Did you model underwear?

HEH

  BigMango

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12/09/12 10:51:44 AM#9
Originally posted by deathshroud

http://www.mortalonline.com/donations/greyhalls this link is what the donators have to go on to determine if they should donate. Not very much at all.

 

Here's some more info by one of the devs:

https://www.mortalonline.com/forums/threads/the-grey-halls-questions.80908/page-2#post-1395674

https://www.mortalonline.com/forums/threads/the-grey-halls-questions.80908/page-4#post-1395799

 

I think it's great they are doing this. It allows the game to grow faster; no one is forced to donate and everyone will benefit.

 

  deathshroud

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OP  12/09/12 11:44:48 AM#10

So they will use the funds to pay a modeler to create some new monsters for the game? seems sound enough.

 

 

seems like the models have already been finished and he has given SV a bill of 1k for the lot, using donations they hope to get the community to pay for the content.

there are 2 types of mmo, imitators and innovaters.

  Hancakes

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12/09/12 1:21:24 PM#11
Originally posted by BigMango
Originally posted by deathshroud

http://www.mortalonline.com/donations/greyhalls this link is what the donators have to go on to determine if they should donate. Not very much at all.


I think it's great they are doing this. It allows the game to grow faster; no one is forced to donate and everyone will benefit.

 

What's great about it? Having the players pay to get some contract artist to throw a few models together. Shouldn't such things be included in the monthly subscriptions?  Setting a bad precedent, so what will we have to pay for next?

  BigMango

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12/09/12 1:37:59 PM#12
Originally posted by Hancakes
Originally posted by BigMango
Originally posted by deathshroud

http://www.mortalonline.com/donations/greyhalls this link is what the donators have to go on to determine if they should donate. Not very much at all.


I think it's great they are doing this. It allows the game to grow faster; no one is forced to donate and everyone will benefit.

 

What's great about it? Having the players pay to get some contract artist to throw a few models together. Shouldn't such things be included in the monthly subscriptions?  Setting a bad precedent, so what will we have to pay for next?

 

No, you don't understand.

 

Players are asking for features in all of the AAA mmorpgs. They will never get them. With MO it's possible.

 

Of course in a perfect world the devs would make everything with the subscriptions. But this dream world of yours doesn't exist. Even the well funded AAA companies with dozens if not hundreds of millions can't make it (look at SWTOR for 1 example).

 

You don't have to pay for anything if you don't want.

 

It only allows the players who like the game to make a donation to get some proposed or asked for features faster into the game. SV did this because many players asked for it on the forums. So, as you can see, they are responding to what many of the players asked for.

 

Without the donations we would not get these features. So for me, getting features ingame is better than not getting them. Period.

 

For you, as you don't agree with donating, it will only make the game better than if donations didn't exist. This is a win-win situation for everyone.

 

  Hancakes

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12/09/12 1:46:39 PM#13
Originally posted by BigMango
Originally posted by Hancakes
Originally posted by BigMango
Originally posted by deathshroud

http://www.mortalonline.com/donations/greyhalls this link is what the donators have to go on to determine if they should donate. Not very much at all.


I think it's great they are doing this. It allows the game to grow faster; no one is forced to donate and everyone will benefit.

 

What's great about it? Having the players pay to get some contract artist to throw a few models together. Shouldn't such things be included in the monthly subscriptions?  Setting a bad precedent, so what will we have to pay for next?

 

No, you don't understand.

 

Players are asking for features in all of the AAA mmorpgs. They will never get them. With MO it's possible.

 

Of course in a perfect world the devs would make everything with the subscriptions. But this dream world of yours doesn't exist. Even the well funded AAA companies with dozens if not hundreds of millions can't make it (look at SWTOR for 1 example).

 

You don't have to pay for anything if you don't want.

 

It only allows the players who like the game to make a donation to get some proposed or asked for features faster into the game. SV did this because many players asked for it on the forums. So, as you can see, they are responding to what many of the players asked for.

 

Without the donations we would not get these features. So for me, getting features ingame is better than not getting them. Period.

 

For you, as you don't agree with donating, it will only make the game better than if donations didn't exist. This is a win-win situation for everyone.

 

Reworking models isnt a feature and sadly that was one of the only things SV could do.

  BigMango

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Posts: 1839

12/09/12 2:02:52 PM#14
Originally posted by Hancakes
Originally posted by BigMango
Originally posted by Hancakes
Originally posted by BigMango
Originally posted by deathshroud

http://www.mortalonline.com/donations/greyhalls this link is what the donators have to go on to determine if they should donate. Not very much at all.


I think it's great they are doing this. It allows the game to grow faster; no one is forced to donate and everyone will benefit.

 

What's great about it? Having the players pay to get some contract artist to throw a few models together. Shouldn't such things be included in the monthly subscriptions?  Setting a bad precedent, so what will we have to pay for next?

 

No, you don't understand.

 

Players are asking for features in all of the AAA mmorpgs. They will never get them. With MO it's possible.

 

Of course in a perfect world the devs would make everything with the subscriptions. But this dream world of yours doesn't exist. Even the well funded AAA companies with dozens if not hundreds of millions can't make it (look at SWTOR for 1 example).

 

You don't have to pay for anything if you don't want.

 

It only allows the players who like the game to make a donation to get some proposed or asked for features faster into the game. SV did this because many players asked for it on the forums. So, as you can see, they are responding to what many of the players asked for.

 

Without the donations we would not get these features. So for me, getting features ingame is better than not getting them. Period.

 

For you, as you don't agree with donating, it will only make the game better than if donations didn't exist. This is a win-win situation for everyone.

 

Reworking models isnt a feature and sadly that was one of the only things SV could do.

 

Yes, but as they say this is the 1st donation and more is to come. They are looking at the best ways for us to get things in the game quickly without hurting the normal development sheddule.

 

Anyway if people aren't interested donations will stop, so so far getting content ingame is a win-win situation nonetheless.

 

 

  Hancakes

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12/09/12 2:08:44 PM#15
Originally posted by BigMango
Originally posted by Hancakes
 

Reworking models isnt a feature and sadly that was one of the only things SV could do.

 

Yes, but as they say this is the 1st donation and more is to come. They are looking at the best ways for us to get things in the game quickly without hurting the normal development sheddule.

 


 

Perhaps next they'll charge for faster bug fixing, that would be worthy a donation. They are looking for ways to sucker people into paying extra for normal development or things promised years ago.  Enjoy  

Its not like SV didnt have staff or money in the past 2.5 years and we all know how that turned out.  They paid this guy a whopping $1000?  Whats is that, a weeks worth of work?

 

Also, they've BEEN using this guy, just now that want you to pay him.

The contracted artist have worked with us before and have gotten us very good content in the past.
Models etc are somewhat done from the artist, but as most other artists he needs to eat and have given us the more then fair price of 1K for the whole bundle of mobs.

  BigMango

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12/09/12 2:19:35 PM#16

 


Originally posted by Hancakes

Originally posted by BigMango

Originally posted by Hancakes

 
Reworking models isnt a feature and sadly that was one of the only things SV could do.
  Yes, but as they say this is the 1st donation and more is to come. They are looking at the best ways for us to get things in the game quickly without hurting the normal development sheddule.    
Perhaps next they'll charge for faster bug fixing, that would be worthy a donation.

 

Yes it would.

 



They are looking for ways to sucker people into paying extra for normal development or things promised years ago.  Enjoy  
 

 

No, they obviously can't do more with the ressources they have and now they are only listening to the players by doing what many players asked for on the forums: donations to pay for game improvments.

As far as I'm concerend, getting something I want to pay for is better than getting nothing.

But I guess as you are looking at it, any vendor and anyone selling you something is looking for some way to sucker you into spending your money. I guess you are enjoying your life, haha.

  Hancakes

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12/09/12 2:21:45 PM#17
Originally posted by BigMango

 


Originally posted by Hancakes

Originally posted by BigMango

Originally posted by Hancakes

 
Reworking models isnt a feature and sadly that was one of the only things SV could do.
  Yes, but as they say this is the 1st donation and more is to come. They are looking at the best ways for us to get things in the game quickly without hurting the normal development sheddule.    
Perhaps next they'll charge for faster bug fixing, that would be worthy a donation.

 

Yes it would.

 



They are looking for ways to sucker people into paying extra for normal development or things promised years ago.  Enjoy  
 

 

No, they are only listening to the players by doing what many players asked for on the forums: donations to pay for game improvments.

As far as I'm concerend, getting something I want to pay for is better than getting nothing.

But I guess as you are looking at it, any vendor and anyone selling you something is looking for some way to sucker you into spending your money. I guess you are enjoying your life, haha.

The player base had been getting his services for free.

  BigMango

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12/09/12 2:26:42 PM#18
Originally posted by Hancakes

Also, they've BEEN using this guy, just now that want you to pay him.

The contracted artist have worked with us before and have gotten us very good content in the past.
Models etc are somewhat done from the artist, but as most other artists he needs to eat and have given us the more then fair price of 1K for the whole bundle of mobs.

 

Yes, fortunately for us, they don't have to train a new person which would make us wait perhaps several months longer.

This means that we'll get the new content in game faster. Win-win again.

 

  Coman

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12/09/12 2:33:10 PM#19
Originally posted by Hancakes
 great about it? Having the players pay to get some contract artist to throw a few models together. Shouldn't such things be included in the monthly subscriptions?  Setting a bad precedent, so what will we have to pay for next?

WHAHAHAHAHA you know there is this hot thing called kickstarter? It's kinda to late to set a bad precedent ;)

  BigMango

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12/09/12 2:34:52 PM#20
Originally posted by Hancakes

The player base had been getting his services for free.

 

Yes, but now they had to cut staff as they don't have the funds anymore. You can as much as you want, when there's no money ...there's no money.

Anyway, they said what he's doing for the donation is extra work outside of normal planned development scheddule. So even if they had cash to pay him he would be working on something else planned in the development scheddule.

Again, I prefer to get something I am ready to pay for than getting nothing. And even getting something I don't want to pay for, but if it interests other people I'd be getting it for free interests me as well.

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