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12/07/12 6:32:40 PM#21
Originally posted by Vunak23 The eastern market* is more "avid" consumer of mmos than the western (Isn't for nothing that Korea is in the world vanguard in mmo production). The eastern market has too a clear (almost exclusive) preference toward sandboxes, with tough enviroment and rewards hard to be obtained.
*Korea, Japan, China, Russia and some countries of Eastern Europe.
"What we are aiming in ArcheAge is to let the players feel the true fun of MMORPG by forming a community like real life by interacting with other players, whether it be conflict or cooperation." (Jake Song) |
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12/07/12 6:37:29 PM#22
Originally posted by Rimmersman Seens very good (to be true :p). I will take a look.
"What we are aiming in ArcheAge is to let the players feel the true fun of MMORPG by forming a community like real life by interacting with other players, whether it be conflict or cooperation." (Jake Song) |
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12/07/12 6:41:21 PM#23
Originally posted by maccarthur2004Originally posted by Rimmersman Go to the Age Of Wushu section on this site and check out the vids we have put up. The game takes some getting used to but once you have figured it out you will be okay.  |
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12/07/12 7:00:32 PM#24
Their gone because you and the other couple of hundred people that want to play them dont make it worth a developers time. DF and MO are struggling to maintain a population as it is.
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12/07/12 7:16:47 PM#25
Originally posted by Cecropia This is very true. In Eve the PvE carebears build the vast majority of the stuff that the PvPers kill each other with. The carebears are the main financial movers and shakers in the marketplace. Without the carebears the PvPers wouldn't have anything decent to fly. Without the PvPers the carebears wouldn't have any customers buying their stuff. |
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12/07/12 7:18:21 PM#26
Originally posted by snapfusion Perhaps in the west but in the East sandbox mmos are being made or should I say hybrid. Archeage and Age Of Wushu are but two such games. Then we'll have some being made in the west as well, hybrids are on their way, make no mistake about about that. |
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12/07/12 7:48:10 PM#27
What happened? People realized they don't have to set their alarm clocks to wake them up in the middle of the night to destroy or defend somehthing. Or wait of hours to get a party going. Or grind for days to recouperate lost resources. They found out that there are alternatives where they can have more fun and whenever they want with little time investment. Never argue with a fool, onlookers may not be able to tell the difference. -Author unknown, attributed to Mark Twain |
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12/07/12 7:59:32 PM#28
The problem is, the sandbox games that are out there think PvP=sand. They forgot the other 95% of the game. EvE is probably the only game that is what you are after, and if you are good with spreadsheets, happy paying for multiple accounts, don't have a life and think being good at it means you are cool in real life then it is the game for you. Oh and if you don't mind WOW in space type combat (i.e. press buttons upon rotation and the really skilled press different buttons when certain situations arise) and the fact you are a spaceship. There are no good, ground based sandbox games out there, people that play games like DF and MO are just so short on options they play them from desperation.
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12/07/12 8:24:35 PM#29
Originally posted by maccarthur2004 I agree Korea, Japan and China have a higher population and are there target audience. But Russia I doubt it. China, Korea Japan (I believe) and US/EU have Official AA sites while Russia doesn't. XLGames even opened an Office up in the states for a while there. Eve if Japan doesn't have an official site, Jake came out and said after the Chinese release they would be moving on to a Japanese release before anything else. They just made a deal with Take-Two (possible Publisher). There is more in favor of a western release before a Russian release, more likely is the Russian release will be apart of the EU release and it all translated at once for French/Russian/German and English. "In the immediate future, we have this one, and then we’ve got another one that is actually going to be – so we’re going to have, what we want to do, is in January, what we’re targeting to do, this may or may not happen, so you can’t hold me to it. But what we’re targeting to do, is have a fun anniversary to the Ilum shenanigans that happened. An alien race might invade, and they might crash into Ilum and there might be some new activities that happen on the planet." ~Gabe Amatangelo |
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12/07/12 10:30:04 PM#30
You mean that great PVP where players used scripts and cheats to be max skill level in a few hours then kill noobs non stop as they step foot outside the gates of Brittain?? YEah what fun that used to be.....Im surprised I ever tried another MMO again after that experience.
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12/08/12 3:56:10 AM#31
Originally posted by maccarthur2004 There will also be instanced (and non-instanced) dungeons. Only a few not that much as in WoW or Rift or other themeparks, but still there will be. Lately XL games went more into themepark teritories. Don't misunderstand me - I still wait for this game and I still think AA have potential. I am not bashing it. I just personally believe that if someone expect next Ultima Online or SWG - will be disappointed, cause it won't be as sandboxy. Still it might be great :) |
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12/08/12 4:07:12 AM#32
Originally posted by Haxzon Im at the same place. Darkfall 2 release in 4 days and all FFA pvp gamers will head there. Me included.
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12/08/12 4:12:04 AM#33
Originally posted by Kalafax Obviously you've never played EVE. It easily has the most robust and friendly community that I have seen in any mmo for years. You just need to use the alliance and corporation recruitment forums and get into a good corp. Every corp I've been in has been a great group of guys. People who I would trust all of my assets with. EVE's only problem is haters spreading misinformation when they have never played the game and don't know anything. |
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12/08/12 5:49:00 AM#34
Ive played all FFA pvp games out there up to now and EvE online is the ONLY FFA pvp game i couldnt get into. And i tried it several times because i wanted it to work. EvE Online strenght is that it has done space combat right but that doesnt mean its for everybody. Its actually less skill based pvp than most other FFA pvp games out there.
So if your into tactical combat and dont mind beeing a spaceship, go EvE. If your into skill based pvp and like to play a character of some sorts, go DF2.
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12/08/12 7:39:56 AM#35
Originally posted by fenistil I've played it and it is pretty damn sandboxy. Its not as Sandbox as it could be. But it really only has one or two themepark elements. Its quest/story based leveling and a few instanced dungeons that don't even cary the best gear (thats for World bosses). No its not as sandbox as UO or SWG. But is the closest we have come in the last 10 years, so I'm not complaining. "In the immediate future, we have this one, and then we’ve got another one that is actually going to be – so we’re going to have, what we want to do, is in January, what we’re targeting to do, this may or may not happen, so you can’t hold me to it. But what we’re targeting to do, is have a fun anniversary to the Ilum shenanigans that happened. An alien race might invade, and they might crash into Ilum and there might be some new activities that happen on the planet." ~Gabe Amatangelo |
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12/08/12 10:15:48 AM#36
Very strange topic. I believe almost all (if not: all) sandboxes released in the last 5 years have been FFA PvP ones. Not sure what the OP wants. Practically all sandbox games of the last 5 years offer what he seems to look for. Just out of the top of my head: Darkfall, Mortal Online, Xsyon, Haven&Hearth, Salem. I maintain this List of Sandbox MMORPGs. Please post or send PM for corrections and suggestions. |
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12/09/12 3:36:36 PM#37
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12/09/12 4:27:43 PM#38
Maybe that's the problem with trying to write a "sandbox" game. You give the players what they ask for, and they complain that it doesn't exist. Join the League For Gamers. |
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