Originally posted by naljeja

Originally posted by kadepsyson

 

I've never heard of anyone "playing the market" for example, in Darkfall.

 I had friends playing DF who would log in and spend a big chunk of time trying to manipulate the market in their favor. It was really impressive to hear what they did and methods they used.. they also took part of pvp events on the server but if you asked them what they spent most of the time doing it would be mostly economy related. This was the first 6 months of the game

Ah nice.

Did they quit?  If so, why?

Originally posted by kadepsyson

Originally posted by naljeja

Originally posted by kadepsyson

 

I've never heard of anyone "playing the market" for example, in Darkfall.

 I had friends playing DF who would log in and spend a big chunk of time trying to manipulate the market in their favor. It was really impressive to hear what they did and methods they used.. they also took part of pvp events on the server but if you asked them what they spent most of the time doing it would be mostly economy related. This was the first 6 months of the game

Ah nice.

Did they quit?  If so, why?

I'd also like to know.  It is things like this that don't really get mentioned when the game's main focus is pvp

eve career flow chart

http://swiftandbitter.com/eve/wtd/

Originally posted by Sytek_88

eve career flow chart

 

http://swiftandbitter.com/eve/wtd/

thanks! can flipping sounds fun lol

Originally posted by Sytek_88

eve career flow chart

 

http://swiftandbitter.com/eve/wtd/

99% of eve can be chocked up to mostly rehashed gameplay anyways all with the same means to and end, while letting your ship avatar roam around and play the game for you.

This game is absolutely terrible requires no skill and basically allows any newb to just walk in and play space ships, they try to talk big about how their systems are ground breaking but you can't even actually play the game, you click some really over elaborate UI menus then you click some other things that allow your ship to automatically play itself.

The game is boring and redundant and if you actually read this "career flow chart" you can see that more than 90% of the things could be consolidated under the same category or have already been done better in another game.

This game will always have hardcore fanboys with its ease of use and f2p model, to try and downplay darkfall unholy wars is sad as it will blow this shit game out of the water, but ya you're right eve is free... For a reason, go try it you'll be back soon!

Originally posted by xenomonk6

Originally posted by Sytek_88

eve career flow chart

 

http://swiftandbitter.com/eve/wtd/

99% of eve can be chocked up to mostly rehashed gameplay anyways all with the same means to and end, while letting your ship avatar roam around and play the game for you.

This game is absolutely terrible requires no skill and basically allows any newb to just walk in and play space ships, they try to talk big about how their systems are ground breaking but you can't even actually play the game, you click some really over elaborate UI menus then you click some other things that allow your ship to automatically play itself.

The game is boring and redundant and if you actually read this "career flow chart" you can see that more than 90% of the things could be consolidated under the same category or have already been done better in another game.

This game will always have hardcore fanboys with its ease of use and f2p model, to try and downplay darkfall unholy wars is sad as it will blow this shit game out of the water, but ya you're right eve is free... For a reason, go try it you'll be back soon!

Never knew eve was free.  You're an odd duck.

Also even if you get rid of most things on that chart, there's still more things to do or experience in EVE than Darkfall.  If you get rid of like 1 thing to do in darkfall, there goes a third of the value lol

as I said though, easiest way for OP is to try it using the free trial that CCP offers with EVE.

Make his own determination.

And then try Darkfall... whenever it gets released (lol)

Does darkfall unholy wars have its own website even?  Or an offical release date on a website owned by the company making it?  I mean, I know they do have a release date on their blog but according to that, Darkfall Unholy Wars came out 17 days ago... lol

But yeah, at least try darkfall whenever they get around to releasing it, or releasing the release date.  Hopefully in the next couple months at least one of those will happen.

Originally posted by xenomonk6

Originally posted by Sytek_88

eve career flow chart

 

http://swiftandbitter.com/eve/wtd/

99% of eve can be chocked up to mostly rehashed gameplay anyways all with the same means to and end, while letting your ship avatar roam around and play the game for you.

This game is absolutely terrible requires no skill and basically allows any newb to just walk in and play space ships, they try to talk big about how their systems are ground breaking but you can't even actually play the game, you click some really over elaborate UI menus then you click some other things that allow your ship to automatically play itself.

The game is boring and redundant and if you actually read this "career flow chart" you can see that more than 90% of the things could be consolidated under the same category or have already been done better in another game.

This game will always have hardcore fanboys with its ease of use and f2p model, to try and downplay darkfall unholy wars is sad as it will blow this shit game out of the water, but ya you're right eve is free... For a reason, go try it you'll be back soon!

Holy Shit Storm BATMAN! and your calling me out as a fanboy of EVE ? REALLY ! ? Someone mentioned the flow chart i linked it i didnt say anything about eve online being better then DARKFALL nor would i two entirely different games. I plan to play DFUW when its released i played the first aswell and ENJOYED IT. But your harsh haterd for EVE Online leads me to believe you never made it past the tutorials. 

Originally posted by kadepsyson

Originally posted by xenomonk6

Originally posted by Sytek_88

eve career flow chart

 

http://swiftandbitter.com/eve/wtd/

99% of eve can be chocked up to mostly rehashed gameplay anyways all with the same means to and end, while letting your ship avatar roam around and play the game for you.

This game is absolutely terrible requires no skill and basically allows any newb to just walk in and play space ships, they try to talk big about how their systems are ground breaking but you can't even actually play the game, you click some really over elaborate UI menus then you click some other things that allow your ship to automatically play itself.

The game is boring and redundant and if you actually read this "career flow chart" you can see that more than 90% of the things could be consolidated under the same category or have already been done better in another game.

This game will always have hardcore fanboys with its ease of use and f2p model, to try and downplay darkfall unholy wars is sad as it will blow this shit game out of the water, but ya you're right eve is free... For a reason, go try it you'll be back soon!

Never knew eve was free.  You're an odd duck.

Also even if you get rid of most things on that chart, there's still more things to do or experience in EVE than Darkfall.  If you get rid of like 1 thing to do in darkfall, there goes a third of the value lol

 

as I said though, easiest way for OP is to try it using the free trial that CCP offers with EVE.

Make his own determination.

And then try Darkfall... whenever it gets released (lol)

Does darkfall unholy wars have its own website even?  Or an offical release date on a website owned by the company making it?  I mean, I know they do have a release date on their blog but according to that, Darkfall Unholy Wars came out 17 days ago... lol

But yeah, at least try darkfall whenever they get around to releasing it, or releasing the release date.  Hopefully in the next couple months at least one of those will happen.

Eve is shit that's why no one actually plays the game they just use it as a wow clone and social hub all day, and when they are playing they aren't because you don't play in EVE eve plays itself.

Sad that so many people like this boring and shallow gameplay really at least you actually have to have some form of brain or reaction time to play a style game like darkfall where pvp is visceral and fast paced... what you do in eve is troll around on a little spaceship that shoots lasers (by itself) oh my gash how kewl... Also i could remove 1 or 2 things from EVE and it would also have almost no depth, because it's completely rehashed gameplay over and over.

So many newbs defend this game like it's the holy grail of mmo's when really it's nothing more than a crafting social hub where pvp is nothing but a long boring light show. Thanks for trying to get more people to cut their eyes out in boredom though hahaha

Speaking on playing itself wasnt Darkfall that one game where people sat in forts using spell macros to get to max level ?

OH and that SAME game that had to be relaunched becuase it was next to being dead with only the most ELITE niche of followers ?

Originally posted by Sytek_88

Speaking on playing itself wasnt Darkfall that one game where people sat in forts using spell macros to get to max level ?

OH and that SAME game that had to be relaunched becuase it was next to being dead with only the most ELITE niche of followers ?

You're right most scrubs were ran out of the game because it was to hard for them and no amount of macroing could ever compare to EVE since the entire game does literally it for itself...

Originally posted by xenomonk6

Originally posted by Sytek_88

Speaking on playing itself wasnt Darkfall that one game where people sat in forts using spell macros to get to max level ?

OH and that SAME game that had to be relaunched becuase it was next to being dead with only the most ELITE niche of followers ?

You're right most scrubs were ran out of the game because it was to hard for them and no amount of macroing could ever compare to EVE since the entire game does literally it for itself...

HAHA! really ? too hard ? its COD with swords and spells! anyone can catch on. The reason the game couldnt keep people playing is because in order to be competitive BEFORE the xp changes you had to AFK macro and AFK swim for months before you could even dent a veterans armor. Doest really sound all that fun to me (though i really do hope in DFUW things will be much more different)

Originally posted by Sytek_88

Originally posted by xenomonk6

Originally posted by Sytek_88

eve career flow chart

 

http://swiftandbitter.com/eve/wtd/

99% of eve can be chocked up to mostly rehashed gameplay anyways all with the same means to and end, while letting your ship avatar roam around and play the game for you.

This game is absolutely terrible requires no skill and basically allows any newb to just walk in and play space ships, they try to talk big about how their systems are ground breaking but you can't even actually play the game, you click some really over elaborate UI menus then you click some other things that allow your ship to automatically play itself.

The game is boring and redundant and if you actually read this "career flow chart" you can see that more than 90% of the things could be consolidated under the same category or have already been done better in another game.

This game will always have hardcore fanboys with its ease of use and f2p model, to try and downplay darkfall unholy wars is sad as it will blow this shit game out of the water, but ya you're right eve is free... For a reason, go try it you'll be back soon!

Holy Shit Storm BATMAN! and your calling me out as a fanboy of EVE ? REALLY ! ? Someone mentioned the flow chart i linked it i didnt say anything about eve online being better then DARKFALL nor would i two entirely different games. I plan to play DFUW when its released i played the first aswell and ENJOYED IT. But your harsh haterd for EVE Online leads me to believe you never made it past the tutorials. 

 

His hatred makes me think he was one who never quite knew what the hell was going on while in the game, so blames it on being too simple and easy.

It's anything but, and most people who play EVE actually enjoy games like DF as well, not mutually exclusive really.

If you know what your're doing of course..........not everyone does.

Originally posted by xenomonk6

Originally posted by Sytek_88

Speaking on playing itself wasnt Darkfall that one game where people sat in forts using spell macros to get to max level ?

OH and that SAME game that had to be relaunched becuase it was next to being dead with only the most ELITE niche of followers ?

You're right most scrubs were ran out of the game because it was to hard for them and no amount of macroing could ever compare to EVE since the entire game does literally it for itself...

Yeah, Darkfall is pretty hard for people, especially when it comes to PVP.  The reason?  It's hard to kill another player when you're the only dude logged in.  It was a ghost town, the devs had an "OH SH--" moment of wondering what to do so they don't go bankrupt, and came up with the idea to patch a few bugs and NGE some classes into it and call it a new game.  How very HARDCORE of them to do so.  The game failed.  This relaunch is sad because it gives false hope.

Also when you are referring to EVE as a WoW clone... well let me just say I hope your reasoning isn't representative of the Darkfall community or in any way related to the reasoning ability of future generations of mankind.  I fear for our species otherwise.

Originally posted by hockeyplayr
I hope this sudden attack on someone for posting a flow chart isn't indicitive of the darkfall community...

just ignore it, I'm hoping it's just the one guy as well.

Like I said, try both.  EVE has a free trial for now, whenever darkfall is out you can try that as well.

Best way for you to know, is for you to decide :)

Have fun hehe

Originally posted by kadepsyson

Originally posted by hockeyplayr
I hope this sudden attack on someone for posting a flow chart isn't indicitive of the darkfall community...

just ignore it, I'm hoping it's just the one guy as well.

Like I said, try both.  EVE has a free trial for now, whenever darkfall is out you can try that as well.

Best way for you to know, is for you to decide :)

Have fun hehe

True, I am about to fire up eve right now since I am not entirely sure that df will even launch on time

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Originally posted by hockeyplayr
So I bought tsw on sale played for about an hour and disliked it and decided to move on.  As an ex runescaper (pre 2006 era) do you think I would enjoy EVE online or the new Darkfall game coming out?  I was always one to pretty much merchant goods, stake, pk, and basically socialize.  Never really grinded skills unless needed for one of the above (logged in over a years worth of hours and was only level 114/126 when I quit).

Anyone who plays eve and is following darkfall or has played the old DF as well as EVE have any insight into this.  I tried EVE a couple years ago but I just felt so detached just flying around in a ship and honestly I got lost somewhere in space and just gave up (was still playing rs at the time so it wasn't a big deal)

Thanks,

Brian

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EVE offers great depth and complexity, DFUW is just PVP.

However, it boils down to one thing only what matters - gameplay, and both games are very different in that regard.

I used a 21 day free trial + bought eve for £3 on the steam sale. 51 days of play time for £3.

I'm enjoying EVE at the moment and it's pretty easy to get into now with the intro/tutorials. Why not just try a 21 day free trial (you just need to click someones link in the sticky thread).

Originally posted by Kyleran
Since the launch is imminent, I'd say the new DF:UW is the way to go.

this is bad advice. never get an mmo at release. give it at least a year for playerbase to stabilize, bugs to be fixd and reviews / game direction to be revealed.

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Originally posted by Robokapp

this is bad advice. never get an mmo at release. give it at least a year for playerbase to stabilize, bugs to be fixd and reviews / game direction to be revealed.

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DFUW isn't really a new MMO release...