Originally posted by Sandbox

Originally posted by WhiteLantern

As an aside: I'm pretty sure that there are more people on this board who claim SWG was the greatest thing since sliced bread, than there were people subbed to SWG when the closure was announced.

 

 

For most people SWG died November 2005, thats why.

Yup.

Originally posted by Sandbox

Originally posted by WhiteLantern

As an aside: I'm pretty sure that there are more people on this board who claim SWG was the greatest thing since sliced bread, than there were people subbed to SWG when the closure was announced.

 

 

For most people SWG died November 2005, thats why.

Same here. Then was brought back to life about 2007-2008

I wanted to like SWTOR, but ultimately SWG was a much deeper and complex experience for me.

SWTOR went by in what literally felt like a gamer minute.. In just a couple of short months I had leveled two characters to max and done everything I cared to do. There was no community and no economy. The PVP was shortsighted and the Ilum was a total joke. The overall game world felt linear, small and dead. 

I think back to SWG now and I miss so many features that it offered. The deep, complex and enjoyable crafting system. Space for community driven events, a place for me to post a lengthy bio on my character. A huge list of classes that had little to do with combat... Doctors, dancers, musicians, armorsmiths, weaponsmiths, bioengineers.. So forth and so on.

I miss being a part of the world my character was living in. I miss having a home and a space ship that I could decorate and run a shop from. I miss space combat that was not on rails. I miss visiting the places from the movies. 

The list just goes on and on... -sigh- 

There is, unfortunately, no question here. I -lived- SWG fr 4 years or so. I ran the TOR themepark for about 3 months.

Unfortunately, I don't think those 'good old days' will ever come back.

I can hear the login screen music from SWG in my head, right now, and I feel a little misty-eyed.. :(

That day when some fancy, high-and-mighty game developer/producer scoffed and claimed he didn't understand what was so great about camping in a MMO, was the day I knew the MMO experience was doomed...

SWG had it's problems, but I miss the depth, the creativity, the inclusion, the immersion, the CHOICE, the COMMUNITY; a community you had to build.

*sigh* I feel kinda sad now..

The games are so damned different, it's apples and oranges.  And now that I've found a guild I enjoy in SWTOR, that actually has people in it, and I think is going to be stable, and fits with my odd playstyle -- yes I miss SWG and SWG was magic and SOE can die in a fire and I will never give them another penny of my gaming money (or, it's hard to imagine that I will...) -- but I am enjoying being with a company of gamers in the extended universe again.

Why the hell not?  Bioware did a stunning job on the storylines.  There's much to enjoy here for a couple years as a RP oriented community-oriented player.  And like SWG I think that later devs and gamers will look back and go "Oh, that's what the game was about...  That's what we can learn..."

*shrug*

Originally posted by bigcheeseuk
*Dreams of SWG 2*

some dreams are too good to come true

Originally posted by apocoluster
   Voted TOR..because it exists and I can play it.  I give it bonus points for acutally telling me a Star Wars-ey type story.  Im glad i can continue to finish out my stories to see how they end

One of the biggest complaints of SWG when it was around...was that it never felt Star Warsy.  I remember beta 3 and others and I were just saying, "this is basically EQ in space."

heh, I never thought it would take games this long to make a sandbox, after all we had SWG, why not improve and release a sandbox? Nope, all we got were more theme parks like Tera, Rift, Aion, Age of Conan, and all... We have so many mmos on the market, and yet a distinct lack in sandboxes like SWG.... Not everyone likes Eve Online, not everyone wants a pure sandbox lacking any type of story, and I loved how SWG Had an IP , HAD a Story!! It was the best sandbox that I have ever played, since I need a game with an actual storyline in it... So, lets bring on more hybrid sandbox games with storylines and real Ips that matter please!! 

I'd also love to see Star Trek 2 : Sandbox Edition with a huge universe like Eve Online, only with their IP and full story... 

Here's hoping that EQNext can be a success and maybe somehow we can get a SWG2 wrung out of sony... With Blizzard's Titan we also have hope for a more sandboxy WoW... 

Did someone seriously made a thread and compared the CoOp game SW:TOR with the MMORPG with a huge living world and sandbox elements that SWG is ?

lol

I asked my dad, who happens to be a major executive within one of the most prominent steel industries in the US, about what he would do if he had won the Mega Million drawing.

He told me...  quit his job, purchase the SWG license, and remake the classic game with modern graphics.

Go dad!

Originally posted by fat_taddler

Originally posted by mmoDAD

Star Wars Galaxies was better.

Hmm. Let me try to choose my words carefully. SWG seemed like it was made for adults, whereas SWTOR felt like it was made for 6th-9th graders.

SWG was deeper in almost every aspect, e.g., exploration, crafting, economy, world size, social environment. SWTOR, however, was deeper via story & lore.

SWTOR felt like I was watching a movie. SWG felt like I was making a movie.

Exactly!!

correction:

SWToR felt like I was another The Phantom Mencace.

SWG felt like I was making another Empire Strikes Back.

(note: I feel they both have big problems, but I thought this analogy was still somehow appropriate)

Originally posted by grimal

Originally posted by apocoluster
   Voted TOR..because it exists and I can play it.  I give it bonus points for acutally telling me a Star Wars-ey type story.  Im glad i can continue to finish out my stories to see how they end

One of the biggest complaints of SWG when it was around...was that it never felt Star Warsy.  I remember beta 3 and others and I were just saying, "this is basically EQ in space."

 

No way. I felt like I was part of Star Wars in SWG. In SWTOR, I felt like I was in middle school. I honestly found SWTOR to be extremely cheesy, too - with all their stupid cliche` quotes and typecasting, e.g., "I have a bad feeling about this", every Smuggler must have a Wookie companion and a fast/ugly ship, etc. It's so typecasted for kids that it was embarrassing to play.

Originally posted by bigcheeseuk
*Dreams of SWG 2*

more like wishful thinking.

Originally posted by apocoluster
   Voted TOR..because it exists and I can play it.  I give it bonus points for acutally telling me a Star Wars-ey type story.  Im glad i can continue to finish out my stories to see how they end

The story wasn't bad. I would play it if the combat is more fun.

Originally posted by Souldrainer
The Mmorpg.com forum user base is heavily biased towards SWG. That is not to say it was a better game, but take that bias and then look at how Lucas Arts mismanaged and shut down SWG, and you know the results of a poll like this are going to majorly favor SWG. No brainer.

For most of the people voting in favor for SWG, that game died in 2005 and would care less what happened when Lucas cancelled it. Take that for a no brainer.

Originally posted by mmoDAD

Originally posted by grimal

Originally posted by apocoluster
   Voted TOR..because it exists and I can play it.  I give it bonus points for acutally telling me a Star Wars-ey type story.  Im glad i can continue to finish out my stories to see how they end

One of the biggest complaints of SWG when it was around...was that it never felt Star Warsy.  I remember beta 3 and others and I were just saying, "this is basically EQ in space."

 

No way. I felt like I was part of Star Wars in SWG. In SWTOR, I felt like I was in middle school. I honestly found SWTOR to be extremely cheesy, too - with all their stupid cliche` quotes and typecasting, e.g., "I have a bad feeling about this", every Smuggler must have a Wookie companion and a fast/ugly ship, etc. It's so typecasted for kids that it was embarrassing to play.