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  grimal

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12/06/12 2:05:27 PM#41
Originally posted by lizardbones

 


Originally posted by botrytis
I will use the argument people use on GW2 - *sarcasm on *  it is a F2P (WELL GW2 is B2P with no sub - but you get the idea) why would they fix things, they are making no money? If it had a sub it would be fixed right away! *sarcasm off*

 

 

Sorry - it is sad when this happens. Hoping they will fix it.




It's not an 'if', it's a 'when' they fix it. They have to fix it. The game won't really work if they don't. It may take awhile though because what they really want to do is collect enough information to plug the holes, and at the same time lock out as many cheaters as they can all at once.

 

Umm, this is the same thing people were saying w'hen GamersFirst took over APB.  That game is still flooded with hacks.

I just don't think it's feasibly possible to stop hacks in these online FPS games.  It's like killing cockroaches.  The only way they are going to put some sort of dent in this is to sue the hell out of every hack maker there is.   Other than that, these games are destined to fail.

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  Mykell

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12/06/12 2:07:48 PM#42
Lightning tank with HE explosive rounds > aimbots.
  grimal

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12/06/12 2:08:40 PM#43
Originally posted by sshock

75% of PS2 players using an aimbot...... And you have been told this by aimbotters (plural)..... It must be true!

Seriously, i have been playing daily since tech test and have yet to see an obvious cheater.

There had been a couple occasions where i was headshot the moment i stuck my head out or ran around a corner.

Suspicious but not necesarily an aimbotter.

There actually are hacks around but the amount is greatly exaggerated.

Paranoid dramaqueens.

75%.... get real, maybe 0.0075%

Boiler plate defense used by those that hack.

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  eyelolled

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12/06/12 2:23:56 PM#44

It doesn't take a large percentage of people to cheat, to ruin a game.

 

I can't remember the specific country but I think it's Taiwan, recognizes virtual items as being a "goods" and the theft of virtual items as being a crime.  So as the world starts to embrace the fact that there is more to virtual items than just fantasy and pretend, these cheaters might end up facing more than just account bans. It's definately a possibility to see cheaters fined for damages to companies as well as the people that create the cheat tools to be fined horrendous amounts for damages.

 

I personally would think it to be hilarious, if some cheater was fined $10,000.00 for cheating in a public game.

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  InvalidString

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12/06/12 2:49:56 PM#45

The OP is pretty much full of it - they took the leaderboards down because there were well-known bugs (like 0 deaths if you were logged out) that they need to fix.

 

Cheater posts are all over the place because that's how cheater coders advertise.

  InvalidString

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12/06/12 2:54:57 PM#46
Originally posted by Mykell
Lightning tank with HE explosive rounds > aimbots.

QFT

  treysmooth

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12/06/12 3:00:55 PM#47
Originally posted by InvalidString

The OP is pretty much full of it - they took the leaderboards down because there were well-known bugs (like 0 deaths if you were logged out) that they need to fix.

 

Cheater posts are all over the place because that's how cheater coders advertise.

 

Yes the leaderboards were bugged but he isn't wrong on rampant cheating. SOE has admitted its a real problem and to this point one they have made no progress on. I spend 90 percent of my time in a tank for just this reason. Even then I was sniped out of my tank by a aimbotter on a couple of occasions as well.
  psiicat

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12/06/12 3:07:24 PM#48

I call BS... I am VS on Waterford with Crimson Wing Outfit and I am one of those people that have been doing 14-18 hour days. Even though we are outnumbered constantly we have held a cont lock on Indar for 4 days now with out any of our people cheating.

Granted the TR have been explointing with the blinking hack, aimbots, last night we ran into a max who could teleport around, and now they have resorted to rolling level 1 VS on alt accounts and team killing us to try and break our defense. 

However the statement " FULL of hacks " is just not true. There are hackers granted but SOE is taking the hacking issue very seriously and going after hackers aggressively.

  NorseGod

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12/06/12 3:17:08 PM#49

I believe that most people that deny that this is going on are using hacks as well. Who wouldn't be against ridding a game of hacks?

Oh, and let's get serious here. These kids are not "hackers". They are called "script kiddies" in industry terms.

I'm taking a break from this game until it's all sorted out. When that happens, is entirely up to SOE.

  InvalidString

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12/06/12 3:20:12 PM#50
Originally posted by NorseGod

I believe that most people that deny that this is going on are using hacks as well. Who wouldn't be against ridding a game of hacks?

How do you think that!?!? Just cuz I haven't seen a hole lot that makes me a hacker?

  NorseGod

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12/06/12 3:25:13 PM#51
Originally posted by InvalidString
Originally posted by NorseGod

I believe that most people that deny that this is going on are using hacks as well. Who wouldn't be against ridding a game of hacks?

How do you think that!?!? Just cuz I haven't seen a hole lot that makes me a hacker?

Should they be permabanned if caught?

  Tuchaka

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12/06/12 3:26:14 PM#52
games that are infested with hackers NEVER get fixed dunno people don't realize this, what happens is they make a bunch of PR posts about how serious this is. Then they start banning hackers and the hack program they use get marked as detected and no one is supposed to use it until the coding is tweaked slightly and the whole process starts all over again. I have seen games infested with aimbots IMPROVE but if you have a massive hacker problem at the onset of the game its already too late to fix.
  aRtFuLThinG

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12/06/12 4:03:18 PM#53

I don't feel there are a lot of hackers in this game at all - and to be honest even if there are some their chance of surviving a firefight is no bigger than any normal players here since there is no place to camp or hide (unlike games like APB).

 

You may find a place it safe, until armors and air units found you, lol.

 

I think because the fact that the role of one individual infantryman is so insignificant in the scheme of things and also that there are so much chaos in the battle that not even hackers can track them all, this game is in much better shape than others even if there are some hackers.

 

Plus, I'm certain that SOE is doing something.

 

 

  TheCrow2k

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12/06/12 4:08:30 PM#54
Yeah I am playing PS2 very little right now as its clearly being dominated by cheats at the moment.
  Drevar

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12/06/12 4:50:06 PM#55
I agree it needs to be fixed ASAP...however, at the moment I am more likely to die from ESF pod or hover roach HE spam.

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  FelixMajor

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12/06/12 4:57:37 PM#56

Hackers and exploiters plague these games just as much as in real life.  There will always be dicks, douchebags, and sore losers there to shit on your fun.

 

Give SOE some time they will work out the kinks! 

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  NorseGod

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12/06/12 5:00:25 PM#57
Originally posted by aRtFuLThinG

I don't feel there are a lot of hackers in this game at all - and to be honest even if there are some their chance of surviving a firefight is no bigger than any normal players here since there is no place to camp or hide (unlike games like APB).

 

You may find a place it safe, until armors and air units found you, lol.

 

I think because the fact that the role of one individual infantryman is so insignificant in the scheme of things and also that there are so much chaos in the battle that not even hackers can track them all, this game is in much better shape than others even if there are some hackers.

 

Plus, I'm certain that SOE is doing something.

 

 

Except that they can disconnect their ethernet cables and have exactly 3 minutes to run to safey, a cap point, or behind you and plug the cable back in before being kicked from server.

  PieRad

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12/06/12 5:16:28 PM#58

I don't hack, yet I'm rocking a 4:1 KDR in total, and rising, even started exclusively as lib pilot which made my KDR low, but after a long session, my stats are usually around 200-250 Kills / 30-40 death.

If 75% of all players were hackers (As mentioned by OP) there would be no way I could have done what I've done.

 

 

Now, I'm not saying this specifically to anyone in here, but sometimes you just got to look at your own play and think "How could I have done this or that better", and sometimes it's just pure bad luck.. 

It usually comes down to skill, however it's always easier to blame it on hacks. (We saw the same thing in APB, there were hackers, no doubt about it, but it was far from as rampant as people made it out to be)

 

 

Here's a few tips to get kills without getting killed yourself, this might be the boring way to do things, but it helps you get xp / certs faster.

  • It's always better to be on the offense. (Offense usually have the upper hand ie. #'s, and they will swarm/camp the spawn room, for easy kills)
  • If in defense, and you're getting camped, re-deploy.
  • If you see an overwhelming force moving towards your base/outpost, re-deploy.
  • If you want to re-deploy, but aren't safe to do so, retreat.
  • Always counter your enemies, don't get too attached to one role, switch when you need to.
  • Check your map, the map will give you a lot of useful information, go to zones where your faction is attacking and outnumbering the enemy factions.
 
The things listed are the ones I go by, and I do just fine, I don't find myself getting owned repeatedly by hackers, but then again, I usually drive or fly vehicles as an Engi, or play Heavy in situations where I have to be infantry.
 
(Edit: And also, these are for solo play, if you play in an outfit you could be asked to stand your ground even when outnumbered. /EndEdit)
 
 
 
 
I like this game a lot, I won't be chased off by cheaters.. But I do hope that SOE will be monitoring and banning those fools.
 
And if not, then they'll probably leave by themeselves when they get bored, I can't imagine a software that plays a game for you, can be fun for very long.
 

 

 

  Dahkot72

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12/06/12 5:23:30 PM#59
Originally posted by PieRad

I don't hack, yet I'm rocking a 4:1 KDR in total, and rising, even started exclusively as lib pilot which made my KDR low, but after a long session, my stats are usually around 200-250 Kills / 30-40 death.

If 75% of all players were hackers (As mentioned by OP) there would be no way I could have done what I've done.

 

 

Now, I'm not saying this specifically to anyone in here, but sometimes you just got to look at your own play and think "How could I have done this or that better", and sometimes it's just pure bad luck.. 

It usually comes down to skill, however it's always easier to blame it on hacks. (We saw the same thing in APB, there were hackers, no doubt about it, but it was far from as rampant as people made it out to be)

 

 

Here's a few tips to get kills without getting killed yourself, this might be the boring way to do things, but it helps you get xp / certs faster.

  • It's always better to be on the offense. (Offense usually have the upper hand ie. #'s, and they will swarm/camp the spawn room, for easy kills)
  • If in defense, and you're getting camped, re-deploy.
  • If you see an overwhelming force moving towards your base/outpost, re-deploy.
  • If you want to re-deploy, but aren't safe to do so, retreat.
  • Always counter your enemies, don't get too attached to one role, switch when you need to.
  • Check your map, the map will give you a lot of useful information, go to zones where your faction is attacking and outnumbering the enemy factions.
 
The things listed are the ones I go by, and I do just fine, I don't find myself getting owned repeatedly by hackers, but then again, I usually drive or fly vehicles as an Engi, or play Heavy in situations where have to be infantry.
 
 
 
 
I like this game a lot, I won't be chased off by cheaters.. But I do hope that SOE will be monitoring and banning those fools.
 
And if not, then they'll probably leave by themeselves when they get bored, I can't imagine a software that plays a game for you, can be fun for very long.
 

 

 

That's the problem , you are thinking as a rationonal adult.

Now change it to a lot of 12-15 year olds , off for the holidays for weeks , with broadband and an opportunity to cause grief ? It's unescabable. Considering the free accounts , unlimited free emails and with proxies and ip vpn ease of use , a bored group of 12 year olds with broadband can cause more grief than SOE can stay ahead of , and to them , it will be "fun".

  aRtFuLThinG

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12/06/12 5:35:33 PM#60
Originally posted by NorseGod
Originally posted by aRtFuLThinG

I don't feel there are a lot of hackers in this game at all - and to be honest even if there are some their chance of surviving a firefight is no bigger than any normal players here since there is no place to camp or hide (unlike games like APB).

 

You may find a place it safe, until armors and air units found you, lol.

 

I think because the fact that the role of one individual infantryman is so insignificant in the scheme of things and also that there are so much chaos in the battle that not even hackers can track them all, this game is in much better shape than others even if there are some hackers.

 

Plus, I'm certain that SOE is doing something.

 

 

Except that they can disconnect their ethernet cables and have exactly 3 minutes to run to safey, a cap point, or behind you and plug the cable back in before being kicked from server.

I really don't know how come to that conclusion lol... but everytime I got disconnected from server (not very often, maybe only 2 or 3 times) this wasn't the case as far as I've experienced.

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