Originally posted by Wicoa

If they are trying to cover it up....

Why would smedly say this in an interview http://massively.joystiq.com/2012/12/05/smedley-teases-new-planetside-2-weapons-slams-aimbotters/

 

SOE president John Smedley lit his Twitter account on fire last night with some pointed comments directed at PlanetSide 2 aimbotters. "Haruhi at artificialaiming.com was just banned. All three of his accounts. Goodbye you scumbag. Find a new hobby or get good at the game," Smedley wrote.

"As they develop hacks we will break the hacks. We have time and great people. Trust that this is a top priority. Hackers will not win," he continued. Smedley also revealed that new weapons are coming to the sci-fi MMOFPS in short order, including anti-vehicle and anti-air variants.

 

Yeh they are really trying to cover this up not talking about it at all.... Maybe they took the boards down because they arent accurate as to who is actually good and those who are using aimbots.

I really dont have a dog in this hunt, but cant they just make a new account and continue to play / cheat?

I like they made it FTP with no box price for admission. Seems like that will also make it easy for banned accounts just to create a new one and continue on.

Even a small fee for account creation may have helped with that. But I could be wrong as I dont know alot about hacking in these types of games. I have never been very good at them, but never resorted to hacking or cheating and dont know how difficult it may be for them.

Like another poster said already, this game is the perfect game for hackers.

F2P? - Check.

FPS? - Check.

A monetary benefit for hacking as in you don't need to sub when your racking up the kills? - Check.

A huge map where 100's if not 1000's play at the same time making it easier to hide in the crowd or move around to conceal hacks? - Check.

And now - No leaderboard to find people with 80+ - 1 K/D ratios. - Check.

Noone is surprised this game is full of hackers, but hey, it's free right?

Breaking news

A shooter have aimbots... More at 11.

Are we not making a hen out of a feather... Or did a anti-aimbot tool got released and i just missed it.

Welcome to the Free to play worlds... Ban one account they can just start 2 more... Another reason I loath F2P... AT least before it would cost hackers something if they got caught and banned.

I have said it before and i will say it again. F2P is the worst thing that has happened to MMOs... and it has brought about low life scumbags in numbers like we have not seen prior.

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Originally posted by Kanester
They will get board with the cheating sooner or later.

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like those guys with aimbots and wallhacks in APB did?

Since early beta up until yesterday i've only seen 1, but last night I saw at least 5 in the same frigging battle.

The warping is usually Asians playing on the west/east coast servers, I started on Connery which has LOTS of lag so I moved to Matherson which is a far better server, so on the PS2 forums people complain about the Chinese playing on Connery causing all the lag and last time I played on Connery I was trying to shoot an aircraft with dual burster MAX and was unable to because it was warping back and forth.

I did faced cheater one day , he was killing us with one shoot, got speed hack aswell , in /yell chat we confirmed that he is on aim bot , speed hack etc and his kill ratio is 80:0 so i did contacted support with his nickname and short explanation what we see.

After 2 days ive got email from SOE

" Greetings Citizen,

Thank you for taking the time to report this matter to us. We will investigate the player reported and act appropriately upon our findings. While we cannot discuss the results of our investigation due to privacy concerns, we assure you this will be looked in to.

Thank you again for the report, and we encourage you to contact us again in the future should you observe further suspicious behavior in the game.

Good luck out there soldier,"

Checked on http://www.planetside-universe.com/ and that guy is gone now - banned

Dont tell SOE is not doing anything with cheaters.We can help them to clean a bit if we get mad with cheater like we did.

75% of PS2 players using an aimbot...... And you have been told this by aimbotters (plural)..... It must be true!

Seriously, i have been playing daily since tech test and have yet to see an obvious cheater.

There had been a couple occasions where i was headshot the moment i stuck my head out or ran around a corner.

Suspicious but not necesarily an aimbotter.

There actually are hacks around but the amount is greatly exaggerated.

Paranoid dramaqueens.

75%.... get real, maybe 0.0075%

Even for a cheater, do take some time to get some certs, if you got your certs being banned means restart, if you get banned again, and again, you have to restart all over, so even for a Free to play, it does hurt get banned after a certain point. Unless you enjoy play without unlocking anything, then of course, you can start as many accounts as you want.

Personally i think playing with an aimbot means you are not playing at all, so i don't see the point in using one,  maybe there is people that like go back to square one every time.

But i think for the guy that unlocked his/her favoured combination of certs lose it all must sting a bit, if it happen again.. and again.. might be a deterrent.

Can only hope that SOE go serious on this and ban cheaters again and again and again ... ad libitum.

Zero cost to setup another account and start immediately cheating again.

And if anyone thinks any sort of IP restrictions actually stop someone with half a clue from getting right back in I'd suggest you read up a little on how easy it is to get around IP bans.

I just don't see how SOE can stay ahead of any folks who want to cheat in PS2 due to the fact there is zero cost to anyone to continaully try and cheat and hack as much as they want.

If the leaderboards are not representative of player skill, and are the product of hacking, why would you leave them up? >.>

Of course they're going to take them down, and you can only presume that they're working on a way of fixing these hacks. The players who use them may well find themselves banned from the game as well.

Would you have preferred it if SOE had left the leaderboards up, so that the hackers could see and enjoy the fruits of their labours?

Silly gamers are silly.

Originally posted by cybertrucker

Welcome to the Free to play worlds... Ban one account they can just start 2 more... Another reason I loath F2P... AT least before it would cost hackers something if they got caught and banned.

I have said it before and i will say it again. F2P is the worst thing that has happened to MMOs... and it has brought about low life scumbags in numbers like we have not seen prior.

It is not just F2P that has this issue. If you think so you are deluded.

It is easy to deal with Ban the IP and the email address. Easiest fix on the planet - best one can do currently.

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Originally posted by sshock
75% of PS2 players using an aimbot...... And you have been told this by aimbotters (plural)..... It must be true!

Seriously, i have been playing daily since tech test and have yet to see an obvious cheater.

There had been a couple occasions where i was headshot the moment i stuck my head out or ran around a corner.

Suspicious but not necesarily an aimbotter.

There actually are hacks around but the amount is greatly exaggerated.

Paranoid dramaqueens.

75%.... get real, maybe 0.0075%

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 Some people probably call me a hacker when I headshot them while they're running, it's a 50:1 shot for me but sometimes I hit, other times they don't even know I fired at them. I use a bolt action m-80 and often run out of ammo with only 2-4 kills, but those 2-4 kills were hail mary's. Most of the time I spend looking through my scope waiting for someone to give me a shot. Then when I can get someone to sit still it takes me about 2-3 seconds to plug them if they're not 400+ meters away.

 Very seldom do I get a second shot on someone, and more often than not the person drops me with machine gun spray from 2-300 meters away. Seriously though, using a maximum power rifle I should be able to drop people with a body shot unless they're a heavy with armor active or a max since I am carrying supposedly the highest power rifle in the game with a 6 second reload and about a 3 second firing speed. I know if someone is within pistol range of me I'm better off pulling out the pistol and not even using the rifle.

 My k/d is sitting about 560/975 and I don't mind the hacks. that might be because I don't play to be on a stupid list somewhere, I play to waste time and sneer at commanders who have no clue yet are authoritarian.

Originally posted by TeknoBug

 

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Originally posted by sshock
75% of PS2 players using an aimbot...... And you have been told this by aimbotters (plural)..... It must be true!

 

Seriously, i have been playing daily since tech test and have yet to see an obvious cheater.

There had been a couple occasions where i was headshot the moment i stuck my head out or ran around a corner.

Suspicious but not necesarily an aimbotter.

There actually are hacks around but the amount is greatly exaggerated.

Paranoid dramaqueens.

75%.... get real, maybe 0.0075%

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John Smedley posted on twitter that hackers are being banned left and right, so yeah must be 0.0075%.

 

I have seen Smed say things for long enough to know i should take everything of that with a grain of salt.

That left and right could be any number.

Ok, the 0.0075% is just my personal estimate. But saying 75% aimbots is ridiculous, and so is saying they disabled the leaderboard to cover up cheaters. (the leaderboard has been broken and missing from time to time since forever)

My impression is that most of the people are just paranoid, thanks to threads like these among other things.

new anti-cheat software went live today, called the G99 ERROR -server broke ;)

Originally posted by botrytis

Originally posted by cybertrucker

Welcome to the Free to play worlds... Ban one account they can just start 2 more... Another reason I loath F2P... AT least before it would cost hackers something if they got caught and banned.

I have said it before and i will say it again. F2P is the worst thing that has happened to MMOs... and it has brought about low life scumbags in numbers like we have not seen prior.

It is not just F2P that has this issue. If you think so you are deluded.

 

It is easy to deal with Ban the IP and the email address. Easiest fix on the planet - best one can do currently.

At least if there were a client you had to pay for, banning that acct would add a new price of the box in there. ANd slow things down, maybe.

Since there isn't, just make a new acct or 3 and you are right back to it.

And banning IPs/emails will get you about nothing, because using VPN tunneling or any other method to get a new IP is very easy, and add in a free email address and there you are.

So banning IP/Email would not work either.

As big a problem is the incentive to cheat: getting a whole mess of kills saves from having to spend real money in the cash shop, so the more you cheat, the more things you get for free.