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  Yamota

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12/05/12 11:32:54 AM#41
Originally posted by Jackdog
Originally posted by Traugar
Originally posted by mnwild1998
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Since it is F2P it does not mean much as it cannot be compared with sub-based MMOs, only other F2P titles.

  DavisFlight

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12/05/12 11:39:43 AM#42
Originally posted by Yamota
Originally posted by Jackdog
Originally posted by Traugar
Originally posted by mnwild1998
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Since it is F2P it does not mean much as it cannot be compared with sub-based MMOs, only other F2P titles.

This.

 

Though it is funny that people only ever cite xfire when its backing up their own opinion.

It's time to face the facts guys. SWTOR, the most expensive MMO ever made, by a large margin, tanked.

  Elikal

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12/05/12 11:42:22 AM#43

Both represent extremes, and I crave for balance.

SWG was the total sandbox too much lacking direction in the long run. SWTOR is the total Themepark, entirely lacking freedom. I had way more fun in SWG; but it was my first MMO. So it's not entirely fair. I still wish a SW MMO that has the best of BOTH games.

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  Dauzqul

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12/05/12 12:49:51 PM#44

I still say SWG (before Jedi at all) was the best SWG.

Before the holocron grind, I played the game the way I wanted to play it. Once they revealed the way to become "Force Sensitive", I felt compelled to grind and grind until I finally got it. The game just started to go downhill from there.

  grimal

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12/05/12 12:52:02 PM#45
Easy.  The better game is the one that did not win "Coaster of the Year" award twice.

Release a game with a very large established fanbase from 10+ years of bnet history when the market was still emerging and the casual base had not yet been established, thus ripe for harvesting a momentious self perpetuating playerbase people never leave because they have X hours invested in their characters, and their friends and everyone else plays anyway. Not discounting Blizzard quality... but WoW's success is as much about perfect timing as it is quality, if not more so. - Derros

  Dauzqul

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12/05/12 12:55:19 PM#46
Originally posted by grimal
Easy.  The better game is the one that did not win "Coaster of the Year" award twice.

That's funny. Almost every game listed under your avatar was a "coaster" to me.

  grimal

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12/05/12 12:56:53 PM#47
Originally posted by mmoDAD
Originally posted by grimal
Easy.  The better game is the one that did not win "Coaster of the Year" award twice.

That's funny. Almost every game listed under your avatar was a "coaster" to me.

Sadly, none of them attained that coveted title.......but SWG did!

Release a game with a very large established fanbase from 10+ years of bnet history when the market was still emerging and the casual base had not yet been established, thus ripe for harvesting a momentious self perpetuating playerbase people never leave because they have X hours invested in their characters, and their friends and everyone else plays anyway. Not discounting Blizzard quality... but WoW's success is as much about perfect timing as it is quality, if not more so. - Derros

  Zeplini

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12/05/12 12:57:27 PM#48
SWG was far superior and  i spent a happy 2 years in swg, and a misreable 3 months in ToR which combined with subs and the CE edition turned out to be a very expensive game for me.

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  PyrateLV

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12/05/12 12:59:13 PM#49
Even at SWGs worst its light years better than SWTOR could ever hope to be

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  Sora2810

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12/05/12 1:01:49 PM#50

SWTOR - Play your own story.

SWG - Make your own story.

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  Terranah

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12/05/12 1:06:15 PM#51
Precu SWG all the way.  It's not even close.  Even NGE SWG was light years ahead.
  nariusseldon

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12/05/12 1:15:42 PM#52
Originally posted by Traugar
SWG made for a better MMO.  TOR is an enjoyable game, but overall it feels more like KOTOR 3 with a few multiplayer options.  SWG was a game that had a community, and you made your own name for good or bad.  

TOR will be a much better game if it is KOTOR3 with an online component. I also think that TOR can have much better combat. Right now, fighting 3 measely worker as a jedi or sith ... does not feel powerful nor heroic. I am more in favor of Force Unleash type combat where you can fight 10s of enemies.

 

 

  LhynnSaint

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12/05/12 1:38:13 PM#53
Originally posted by mnwild1998
Originally posted by Yamota
SWG, hands down. I dont consider SW:TOR to be a proper MMO. It is more like a story driven single player RPG with a multiplayer component added.

 

Hmm that is so far from the truth. I have nothing against SWG but to say TOR is not an mmo is laughable. I take it you have never played or made a character above 20? I take it you never joined a guild? I take it you never crafted a purple item and sold it on the AH? I take it you never ran a flaspoint, ops, or entered a heroic area? I guess if you never did those you could say what you said.

Funny how you mentioned everything you can do in wow, but didnt mention the comunity.  hanging around in a bar and talking about nothing with , or doing massive and organized sieges to take points, or world events.

You know, The first "M" in MMO stands for MASSIVE, swotor doesnt feel massive, just kinda empty and story driven (not even character driven as it should fucking be ._.)

It has one redeming quality tho, the people that play it are cool for the most part, always willing to help, so thats the only reason id play it. Too bad that the content is either too solo friendly or stupid and its usually both.

  LhynnSaint

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12/05/12 1:54:11 PM#54
Originally posted by mnwild1998
Originally posted by LhynnSaint
Originally posted by mnwild1998
Originally posted by Yamota
SWG, hands down. I dont consider SW:TOR to be a proper MMO. It is more like a story driven single player RPG with a multiplayer component added.

 

Hmm that is so far from the truth. I have nothing against SWG but to say TOR is not an mmo is laughable. I take it you have never played or made a character above 20? I take it you never joined a guild? I take it you never crafted a purple item and sold it on the AH? I take it you never ran a flaspoint, ops, or entered a heroic area? I guess if you never did those you could say what you said.

Funny how you mentioned everything you can do in wow, but didnt mention the comunity.  hanging around in a bar and talking about nothing with , or doing massive and organized sieges to take points, or world events.

You know, The first "M" in MMO stands for MASSIVE, swotor doesnt feel massive, just kinda empty and story driven (not even character driven as it should fucking be ._.)

It has one redeming quality tho, the people that play it are cool for the most part, always willing to help, so thats the only reason id play it. Too bad that the content is either too solo friendly or stupid and its usually both.

 

Massive? Have you ever been part of a large group that took down a Massive world boss?

Ever been in a siege movilizing hundreds if not thousands of players? making or breaking alliances with other guilds.

besides, shouldnt a single jedi be able to deal with pretty much anything with enough level of mastery of the force?

Sorry kid, you are playing MORPG, thats all it is. its not that bad tho, you can still have fun...

Its just as much of an MMO as a persistent neverwinter nights server, but with less RPing, and a million times less customization of your character.

  Hauken

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12/05/12 2:02:43 PM#55

I prefer to play SWG. The freedom to chose any race, any faction, any profession, to go anywhere i want. Epic PvP events created by pleyers and guilds. To go to my own house, decorated by me with furnitures and trophys gathered around the galaxy. To fly my x-wing from system to system.

The total freedom, with one of the greates gaming community i ever had the pleasure to be part of. Both friends and foes :)

 

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  tordurbar

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12/05/12 2:14:12 PM#56
Originally posted by Swanea
Is this supposed to be close?  I'm pretty sure the population here prefers swg because of the crafting and the rose colored SAFTEY GOGGLES!

Agree that this site will, by far and away, prefer SWG to SWTOR. My take is that SWG is gone and SWTOR is still around. SWTOR wins. On the other hand, I really doubt that SWTOR is going to last half as many years as SWG. In that case I say that SWG won.

Personally I enjoyed SWTOR more but I quit both of them after playing 3 months. Interesting, now that I remember, I played both of them about the same amount of time - I just enjoyed SWTOR more.

  JYCowboy

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12/05/12 2:22:59 PM#57
TOR makes me miss the NGE... the early sub killing NGE... not the NGE with  atmosphere flight, GCW planet control, Bounty Hunting, space battle almost smuggling ... ah hell, I miss that NGE too.  I miss all of SWG, good and bad.
  Jonoku

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12/05/12 2:30:26 PM#58
So the purpose of this thread is to insult SWTOR? got it :P

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  Zekiah

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12/05/12 2:34:06 PM#59
Originally posted by mmoDAD
Originally posted by grimal
Easy.  The better game is the one that did not win "Coaster of the Year" award twice.

That's funny. Almost every game listed under your avatar was a "coaster" to me.

Lol, true. A couple of those listed I didn't even bother with, total carp.

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  LhynnSaint

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12/05/12 2:35:07 PM#60
Originally posted by Jonoku
So the purpose of this thread is to insult SWTOR? got it :P

Well, isnt that the purpose of every thread and every commentary after an announcement when it comes to swtor? i mean, its fun, and true 85.6% of the times (made up statistic, but probably close to the actual number).

And its not beating on a dead horse, the horse is not dead yet, thats why we beat it.

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