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12/05/12 4:49:00 AM#21
Originally posted by Phry No, the definition of 'Free to Play' is that you can play it without paying any money. Can you play GW2 without paying any money? No. Therefore it is not 'Free to Play'. What does "B2P = is not F2P if it doesnt have a cash shop/microtransactions for the game" even mean? That isnt even a proper sentance. Do you mean that B2P games are F2P if they have microtransactions? Plenty of games have microtransactions that are not considered F2P. Is Oblivion F2P? You can buy updates and content for that game. Whats that? Its not? Because you have to pay for the game you say? The same applies to GW2. B2P with a cash shop is... B2P with a cash shop. Not F2P. To be F2P, you have to be able to play it for free. Comprende? |
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12/05/12 4:57:04 AM#22
Originally posted by evilastro F2P is a term used to describe an MMO that has a cash shop/microtransactions as its finance model, it really is just that simple, which is why i class GW2 as a F2P game with a box price. For GW2 to be classed as a B2P game it would not have to have a cash shop in it, with microtransactions. Whether you choose to use said cash shop/microtransactions or not, is totally irrelevant. It is what it is. |
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12/05/12 4:59:45 AM#23
Are you people really discussing this? Really? Well I guess theres no major MMO release coming up so forums are kind of slow.
Oh well continue on your redunant discussion of F2P, B2P, P2P. Waiting for:ArcheAge |
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12/05/12 5:16:50 AM#24
This really is a daft conversation as im pretty sure that most people realise that you buy the game 1st you think that they going to make a massive mmo like this and then get nothing out of it ? if they were going to do it that way then the cash shop would have stuff in it that you have to buy to progress GW2 has nothing in its shop that you Need to buy unlike many other mmos and anyway if you dont like it or you feel like your being conned dont buy it ,its that simple just like to add to this that if you brought a console game you would pay around the same price for it but how many hours worth would you get out of them i dont know exactly how many ive played on GW2 but have certainly got my moneys worth but maybe to please a few they should add F2P after you have brought the client
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12/05/12 5:34:17 AM#25
Bollox, all so called FREE to play are actualy even more expensive then monthly fee games... F2P is just a lie.
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12/05/12 5:42:35 AM#26
Originally posted by Phry Uh, no, you use the term incorrectly to describe games with a cash shop. By your logic, TSW is a F2P game. That makes no sense whatsoever. |
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12/05/12 5:44:36 AM#27
The game is F2P with heavy cash shop focus. The 60$ pricetag is basically for a very cheap lifetime sub (nothing new). "B2P" is nothing but marketing twist for a regular lifetime sub for other MMOs.
e.g. I got a 199$ lifetime sub for TSW, but I´m not forced to the shop and there are no gambling boxes. The price difference between 199$ and 60$ is compensated by a much higher focus on cash shop items and treasure chest keys, something which does not happen in TSW Secrets of Dragon´s Spine Trailer.. ! :D Best MMOs ever played: Ultima, EvE, SW Galaxies, Age of Conan, The Secret World
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12/05/12 5:58:31 AM#28
Yes, you really need those shoulder armor skins with no stats to enjoy GW2.
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12/05/12 7:57:41 AM#29
Originally posted by Phry
So just drop it.
If it's not broken, you are not innovating. |
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12/05/12 8:00:15 AM#30
Originally posted by FromHell
Nope it's Buy to play with fluff cashshop, nothing in that cashshop is remotly close to as you put it heavy cash shop focus which leads me to beleave you have no clue what you are talking about and never played GW2. If it's not broken, you are not innovating. |
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12/05/12 8:04:41 AM#31
Oh look, another argument over acronyms... /time for breakfast |
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Yamota
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Joined: 10/05/03
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12/05/12 8:08:14 AM#32
Originally posted by Phry Incorrect. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free-to-play "Free-to-play (F2P) refers to any video game or social or mobile application that has the option of allowing its players/users to play/download without paying" GW 2 does not have this option and ergo it is NOT F2P. /thread  |
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12/05/12 8:09:39 AM#33
Originally posted by Yamota
No use he will counter argument that Wiki is not a trustworthy site. If it's not broken, you are not innovating. |
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12/05/12 8:12:19 AM#34
Originally posted by zomard100 GW2 is B2P - but no monthly SUB. PS2 and SWTOR, if you want to prgress farther in the game (think using microtransactions). I guess you just wanted to troll abit, eh? there was a limited in free trial in GW2.
Crysis is like GW2, B2P.
 "You can fool some of the people all the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you cannot fool all of the people all the time." Abraham Lincoln |
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12/05/12 8:35:44 AM#35
If Guild Wars 2 is free to play, where is the free download? It is buy to play because you have to buy it to play it. Something that simple and you still have dumb people stating the opposite!
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12/05/12 11:02:41 AM#36
Originally posted by FromHell
So TSW is F2P with a heavy cash shop focus. Gotcha. |
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12/05/12 12:19:47 PM#37
Originally posted by Roxtarr He obviously means fanboys who have infested this forum section years ago. |
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12/05/12 12:43:12 PM#38
Lol! If you buy GW2 it's B2P. If you steal the physical copy from a store then it's F2P! If you get it as a gift then it's B2P and also F2P since someone had to pay for it but it's F2P for you! Or damn, if you get it from some e-lottery then it's F2P since no one has to pay anything for it! Carry on... |
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12/05/12 12:45:37 PM#39
Originally posted by Loke666 Well to be absolutely precise GW2 is B2P+CS and not just B2P like Crysis or many single player games. |
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kadepsyson
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12/05/12 12:49:22 PM#40
I can download Guild Wars 2 for free - no purchase. I can't play it without a purchase. But according to some definitions here, downloading it without paying money means free to play :P
Yes I know it is Buy to Play and people are incredibly silly to think it is Free to Play simply because it doesn't charge for a subscription. El Psy Congroo |
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