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Vanguard: Saga of Heroes

Vanguard: Saga of Heroes 

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  Genadi

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Joined: 4/07/10
Posts: 124

Stupidity can't be taught

 
OP  12/03/12 3:42:37 AM#1

I played years back but wasn't really active in any mmo's at the time and drifted away while trying to hang onto what was the greatness of DAOC. After a year or two of playing mainly Mortal Online I returned to VG recently and was greatly surprised. Great systems, great World, great crafting, great combat (looks like clickfest at first but is much deeper than WoW or other hotbar mmos when you realise combo effects etc, great new things being attempted (diplomacy), great exploration, great house & boat building system, great massive sprawling castles and above all else one of the best community's I've seen in a long long time.

 

No PvP was a turn off for me at first but once I accepted VG as PvE game it hasn't bothered me since.

 

I write this post mainly because I've seen so many games going f2p lately and in turn people giving them a chance. If people are giving broken games like Mortal Online a shot they should definitely give this a chance also. It pleasantly surprised me and I hope it does others. With a higher pop the game would really hit it's strides as unlike most other current mmo's it greatly encourages group play.

 

I hope alot more people try it out now it's f2p and on steam.

 

New VG fanboi - Genadi

  Biskop

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Joined: 10/06/11
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12/03/12 9:30:36 AM#2
Totally agreed, VG is a gem of a game in many ways. Still needs a lot of love though, particularily when it comes to polish, bug fixing and char models.

With the ftp convertion and a new dev team working on it, the future does look bright however. Even though I sometimes get bored with the combat system and questing, I will probably keep returning to VG for a long time. I just love the world, the atmosphere, and the great classes, plus the fact that it's so damn huge that you never run out of content.

Also, it's one of the last true MMOs - it actually rewards grouping and socialization, and it's not designed for easy solo play.
  Sevenstar61

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Joined: 7/22/12
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"But it was so artistically done..." - Grand Admiral Thrawn's final words

12/03/12 10:20:45 AM#3
Originally posted by Biskop
Totally agreed, VG is a gem of a game in many ways. Still needs a lot of love though, particularily when it comes to polish, bug fixing and char models.

With the ftp convertion and a new dev team working on it, the future does look bright however. Even though I sometimes get bored with the combat system and questing, I will probably keep returning to VG for a long time. I just love the world, the atmosphere, and the great classes, plus the fact that it's so damn huge that you never run out of content.

Also, it's one of the last true MMOs - it actually rewards grouping and socialization, and it's not designed for easy solo play.

I tried VG when I had Station Sony Account. The world is stunningly beautiful and huge. It has some unique features which I really liked.  I wish though they had improved character hair, they really suck and it's a big deal for me  /grin. 

The problem is that as you said - the game is not easy to solo, you would have to convince your friends to try it with you  and stick to it to have fun, and it might not be easy. The game definitely has potential, there's just no enough interest.


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  Biskop

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Posts: 731

12/03/12 12:13:26 PM#4
You can still solo to some extent ofc, but group content is where the game really shines and you'll miss a lot if you only tun solo - not to mention that some classes are designed for group play.

And lately there has actually been easy to find groups, both for dungeons and other stuff like harvesting (VG rewards you for group harvesting which is great imo).
  Onomas

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Joined: 7/05/11
Posts: 1160

Sandbox is your only hope for a decent mmo ;)

12/03/12 12:19:54 PM#5

I just got my all access pass for SOE, so i will pick this back up and play. Its been awhile, but enjoyed it. If you guys want to group up just let me know what server and time zone.

 

$19.99 is a good buy for all these games. Reason i did that is so i could go back to some of these older games like VG, EQ2, etc....I would have to recreate a new character from the begining.

  kevjards

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Joined: 9/27/10
Posts: 1443

12/03/12 12:26:14 PM#6
tried to get my brother and nephew to play VG but they thought that it took too long to get anywhere..no taste at all...it would be great if someone came up with an identical copy of this game minus the bugs and char models..by far the  best mmo i ever played.
  Everket

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Joined: 3/22/11
Posts: 220

12/03/12 1:07:39 PM#7
I really wish we Europeans had access to soe all access pass, its such a good deal.
  Badaboom

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12/03/12 1:11:24 PM#8
I disagree.  I think it is time that this game finally dies.  To preserve the few fond memories that I have of Vanguard, this game should humanely be put down.  I say this out of love.  It is time.
  Kenze

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Joined: 4/24/07
Posts: 1235

12/03/12 1:19:04 PM#9


Originally posted by Badaboom
I disagree.  I think it is time that this game finally dies.  To preserve the few fond memories that I have of Vanguard, this game should humanely be put down.  I say this out of love.  It is time.

I agree. Vanguard just needs to die with a little of its dignity intact. I mean look at some of the stuff SOE's cash shop is adding to the world....such tacky, gaudy crap like this

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  aspekx

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12/03/12 11:53:46 PM#10
Originally posted by Kenze

 


Originally posted by Badaboom
I disagree.  I think it is time that this game finally dies.  To preserve the few fond memories that I have of Vanguard, this game should humanely be put down.  I say this out of love.  It is time.


I agree. Vanguard just needs to die with a little of its dignity intact. I mean look at some of the stuff SOE's cash shop is adding to the world....such tacky, gaudy crap like this

 

uhm if i remember correctly the rainbow brite pegasus has been in game for a while longer than f2p and the cash shop.

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One could be called finite, the other infinite.
A finite game is played for the purpose of winning,
an infinite game for the purpose of continuing play."
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  User Deleted
12/03/12 11:59:06 PM#11
Originally posted by Kenze

 


Originally posted by Badaboom
I disagree.  I think it is time that this game finally dies.  To preserve the few fond memories that I have of Vanguard, this game should humanely be put down.  I say this out of love.  It is time.


I agree. Vanguard just needs to die with a little of its dignity intact. I mean look at some of the stuff SOE's cash shop is adding to the world....such tacky, gaudy crap like this

 

What the hell?  I'm not overly familiar with Vanguard lore but that can't be part of it...

  aspekx

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Posts: 2150

12/04/12 12:01:19 AM#12
Originally posted by asmkm22
Originally posted by Kenze

 


Originally posted by Badaboom
I disagree.  I think it is time that this game finally dies.  To preserve the few fond memories that I have of Vanguard, this game should humanely be put down.  I say this out of love.  It is time.


I agree. Vanguard just needs to die with a little of its dignity intact. I mean look at some of the stuff SOE's cash shop is adding to the world....such tacky, gaudy crap like this

 

What the hell?  I'm not overly familiar with Vanguard lore but that can't be part of it...

i am not sure where it came from, but i do know it did not come with f2p.

"There are at least two kinds of games.
One could be called finite, the other infinite.
A finite game is played for the purpose of winning,
an infinite game for the purpose of continuing play."
Finite and Infinite Games, James Carse

  User Deleted
12/04/12 12:02:06 AM#13

What it really needs is a reboot.

Use the world, races, classes and ideas. But give it a new graphics engine.

It isnt just about the engine being old, its very poorly put together. If this game got a graphics / engine overhaul it would be the new Everquest 1.

  User Deleted
12/04/12 12:03:34 AM#14
Originally posted by chelan
Originally posted by asmkm22
Originally posted by Kenze

 


Originally posted by Badaboom
I disagree.  I think it is time that this game finally dies.  To preserve the few fond memories that I have of Vanguard, this game should humanely be put down.  I say this out of love.  It is time.


I agree. Vanguard just needs to die with a little of its dignity intact. I mean look at some of the stuff SOE's cash shop is adding to the world....such tacky, gaudy crap like this

 

What the hell?  I'm not overly familiar with Vanguard lore but that can't be part of it...

i am not sure where it came from, but i do know it did not come with f2p.

That's almost worse...  

  User Deleted
12/04/12 12:05:12 AM#15
Originally posted by evilastro

What it really needs is a reboot.

Use the world, races, classes and ideas. But give it a new graphics engine.

It isnt just about the engine being old, its very poorly put together. If this game got a graphics / engine overhaul it would be the new Everquest 1.

i think the graphics engine would work fine as it is.  Maybe have some higher poly models but that's mostly it.  What really needs to be replaced are the animations.  Those pretty much killed it for me within about 30 minutes.  20 of which were spent downloading the trial.

  winter

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Joined: 8/08/03
Posts: 2220

12/04/12 12:17:50 AM#16
Originally posted by Badaboom
I disagree.  I think it is time that this game finally dies.  To preserve the few fond memories that I have of Vanguard, this game should humanely be put down.  I say this out of love.  It is time.

 Agreed +1

 Soe isn't supporting just using it as a last ditch money grab before it swirls around the drain for the last time.

time to nove on and stop clinging to the dead remains of what once was.

  User Deleted
12/04/12 1:22:17 AM#17
@Badaboom and winter
So, what you guys are saying is because you don't enjoy the game anymore they should shut it down. Very altruistic of you.

Also, the Pegasus is the reward for an endgame dungeon "Pantheon of the Ancients" where you choose a God as a patron. This is the reward for pledging to the good side. There is also a mount that leaves a trail of fire if you decide for an evil God.
  aspekx

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Joined: 12/24/05
Posts: 2150

12/04/12 1:26:15 AM#18
Originally posted by Nhyx
@Badaboom and winter
So, what you guys are saying is because you don't enjoy the game anymore they should shut it down. Very altruistic of you.

 

exactly. if you don't like it that's fine. there are plenty of reasons to want a game shut down.  but there are a growing number of people who continue to enjoy the game.

"There are at least two kinds of games.
One could be called finite, the other infinite.
A finite game is played for the purpose of winning,
an infinite game for the purpose of continuing play."
Finite and Infinite Games, James Carse

  Ringside

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Joined: 9/25/10
Posts: 192

12/04/12 2:59:36 AM#19

couldnt agree more with the guy who said this game would be the new eq1 if this game had a graphic engine overhaul.

The graphics are pretty dont get me wrong. But the whole engine is clunky, old and realy worst coding you could imagine.

the game itself is a gem but just because of that the game never came close to reach it potential

  StonesDK

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Joined: 8/06/11
Posts: 1830

12/04/12 11:57:05 AM#20
Originally posted by chelan
Originally posted by Nhyx
@Badaboom and winter
So, what you guys are saying is because you don't enjoy the game anymore they should shut it down. Very altruistic of you.

 

exactly. if you don't like it that's fine. there are plenty of reasons to want a game shut down.  but there are a growing number of people who continue to enjoy the game.

If that were true then you wouldn't need these call to arms and Vanguard needs more love posts

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