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OP 11/26/12 11:24:56 PM#1
Would this be a good buy / set up for $1400?
1 x Case ( Chimera Inferno 4SE Gaming Case - Flame )
1 x Processor ( Intel® Core™ i7 3820 Processor (4x 3.60GHz/10MB L3 Cache) - Intel Core i7 3820 )
1 x Processor Cooling ( Liquid CPU Cooling System [SOCKET-2011] - ARC Dual Silent High Performance Fan Upgrade (Push-Pull Airflow) )
1 x Memory ( 32 GB [8 GB X4] DDR3-1333 Memory Module - Corsair or Major Brand )
1 x Video Card ( NVIDIA GeForce GTX 660 - 2GB - FREE Upgrade to 660 2GB EVGA Superclocked - Single Card )
1 x Video Card Brand ( Major Brand Powered by AMD or NVIDIA )
1 x Free Stuff ( *[FREE] - Gigabyte GC-WB300D Bluetooth 4.0 / Dual Band WiFi Expansion Card - Free with purchase of ALL Desktop )
1 x Motherboard ( ASUS P9X79 LE -- 2x USB 3.0 )
1 x Power Supply ( 600 Watt - Standard )
1 x Primary Hard Drive ( 2 TB HARD DRIVE -- 64M Cache, 7200rpm, 6.0Gb/s - Single Drive )
1 x Data Hard Drive ( 2 TB HARD DRIVE -- 64M Cache, 7200rpm, 6.0Gb/s - Single Drive )
1 x Optical Drive ( 24X Dual Format/Double Layer DVD±R/±RW + CD-R/RW Drive - *Thanksgiving Weekend Specials* FREE Upgrade to LG BLU-RAY Reader Combo Drive Black )
1 x Flash Media Reader / Writer ( 12-In-1 Internal Flash Media Card Reader/Writer - Black )
1 x Sound Card ( 3D Premium Surround Sound Onboard )
1 x Network Card ( Onboard LAN Network (Gb or 10/100) )
1 x Operating System ( Windows 8 + Office 2010 Trial [Free 60-Day !!!] - 64-bit )
1 x Mouse ( iBUYPOWER Standard Gaming Mouse - Blood Red )
1 x Headset ( Connectland 3.5mm Connector Circumaural Stereo Headset )
1 x Warranty ( 3 Year Standard Warranty Service )
OP 11/26/12 11:37:27 PM#2
If this is a bad buy in any way shape or form really like to know and the deal ends in 2 hours >.<
Use to know most of this stuff but i'm pretty clueless now : /
11/26/12 11:39:19 PM#3
While it's not a horrible system for the price they are asking it's not great by any stretch and in many ways doesn't make much sense (that tends to pretty standard for ibuypower and cyberpower though).
If your main intension for the machine is use it as a gaming machine then spending the extra money on the i7 CPU and overkill of 32Gb of ram when you could go with an i5 3570k and 16Gb meanwhile allowing you to upgrade to a MUCH nicer GPU just doesn't make any sense at all. Oh and let's not forget they don't actually state the PSU make/model which is always something to be VERY cautious of as a PSU failure can take your whole system with it. Also at that price is should have an SSD for the Boot drive as a standard, this one appears to only have a HDD. HDD are fine for storage but when you get over $1k for a new PC these days SSD for the boot drive/HDD storage drive should be the setup you look for period.
11/26/12 11:39:44 PM#4
Originally posted by DM19
Don't rush. iBuyPower always has a special deal going on, and it's always about to end. That's to try to create pressure to make you think you have to buy something right this second or end up paying a lot more, so that you end up overpaying for something stupid. As soon as one special deal ends, another starts--and usually nearly identical to the one that just ended.
11/26/12 11:40:11 PM#5
Originally posted by DM19
Not at ALL.
An i7 isn't necessary for gaming, with a $1400 budget you can basically afford an Nvidia GTX 680, or a 670 and other better parts.
32gb ram? LOL for what.. a 670 will also give you enough left to buy an SSD. Don't pay for Win 7 (dont get Win 8 either).
11/26/12 11:43:28 PM#6
Originally posted by DM19
That's always a bad deal. If it were good, they'd tell you. In fact, they do offer some good power supplies, and tell you exactly what they are.
Why are you looking at Sandy Bridge-E? That's a server chip that Intel offers to sell in desktops--but they charge server (i.e., high) prices for it. For gaming purposes, Ivy Bridge is both better and cheaper.
Also, 32 GB of system memory is extreme overkill for most purposes. I can understand 16 GB on a big budget just because it's so cheap, but 32? There are some reasons to get that much memory, but gaming isn't one of them, and won't be any time soon.
Why are you looking to get a computer built to order in the first place, rather than building your own?
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11/26/12 11:46:11 PM#7
First of all: get 2x16Gb memory sticks instead, you need 2 for them to work in full speed.
Secondly, for that price you really should be able to afford a better PSU, at least a Corsair proffesional 650W. A "standard" PSU are often a really bad buy, it might both shorten the lifetime of the computer and might use more power. OCZ also make good PSUs for a nice price.
Otherwise are the parts fine, but you might get them a little cheaper if you look around.
OP 11/26/12 11:46:48 PM#8
Thanks for the reply. Money is not that big a deal is why i went higher end on them items but could still do the GPU also and pretty much everything else. Was something i just whipped up after seeing a deal and i can edit it all. With out building it myself you know of any other sites like Ibuypower that wont rip me off to bad?
OP 11/26/12 11:50:06 PM#9
Happy i made this post i see now i know even less then i thought >.<
OP 11/27/12 12:05:44 AM#10
Ok so like <a data-cke-saved-href="http://www.mmorpg.com/profile.cfm/username/Quizzical" href="http://www.mmorpg.com/profile.cfm/username/Quizzical" title="View information about Quizzical" suhlink"="">Quizzical said they always have deals so going to wait.
I changed a few things with the PC i was looking at as a guide to go on if you guys will look it over. This came out at about 1600.
I'm not sure about the motherboard at all.
11/27/12 12:45:56 AM#11
If you are still looking for other sites I would recommend you check out AVAdirect. I can't guarantee you will get a better deal but you should be able to do a better job of building a specific (meaning you choose all parts, make/model) system via their options over ibuypower/cyberpower.
11/27/12 12:58:41 AM#12
Originally posted by DM19
While this is a much better gaming build than your last I would still ask why the i7? Do you plan to use it for something other than gaming that would require multiple cores or perhaps in the case of gaming multiboxing?
If you aren't aware I'd like to point out that the closed loop liquid cooling system you selected really isn't any better and in some case is louder than other comparable air cooling setups such as the Noctua NH-D14. You would really need to spring for the Corsair H100 or H100i (newer version). Anything under that you are paying a premium for very little performance gain, especially if you aren't planning on overclocking your system.
The MB is WAY overkill unless you plan to do SLI/Xfire from the get go as that is specifically what the X79 boards are designed to accomplish. I higher end Z77 would be a much better deal for a single GPU setup.
Do you plan to do a surround system setup with your system or are you an audiophile? If not the Asus Xonar sound card is also a waste of cash and is something you could EASILY add later should you decide onboard sound isn't good enough. I highly recommend you stick with onboard sound until after you have heard it before you spring for a seperate sound card. These days all quality MB's come with build-in onboard sound which is easily equal to soundcards of yesteryear.
Other than that your other options are right on the mark, but as I stated in my previous post I would still compare a similar build to what AVAdirect has to offer.
OP 11/27/12 10:56:57 PM#13
Just wanted to thank everyone for all the help.
After seeing just how much it costs to have them sites build a pc for you i'm going to try it myself. I''ve wanted to learn how for a very long time now and think its about time i learn and this site http://www.pcityourself.com/index.php seems to make it very easy step by step. If it blows up in my face i guess it be a good lesson learned :)
11/27/12 11:11:04 PM#14
I'd say you made the right choice in the end. A couple things to remember when you building your own system, a. order all your parts at the same time because you won't know what might be a lemon until you actually build the system and b. due to the possibility of lemons be sure to register all your parts as soon as you can to ensure they are covered in case of failure or DOA.
While the above are unlikely to happen it's just a fact of life with computer parts that not all will ship in working condition, this is part of the reason the major players offer such great RMA policies. Please don't let any of this discourage you from building a system yourself because to be quite frank no online reseller will offer you EXACTLY what you want in a system, only you can do that (or pay someone local to built it after you order the parts).
11/28/12 11:44:57 AM#15
I'd say of all the computers I've built, probably 15% of them have ~some~ part that has to be RMA'ed in the first 2 weeks. Usually it's RAM DOA, but occasionally a motherboard or video card will die very early on. Buying from a reputable retailer (Newegg is among the better with regard to this) makes it very easy to return and get the computer up and running. Plus if you have spare parts from an older computer or something, you can still get some use out of some of the parts, rather than having to mail in your entire rig (often at your expense, and shipping an entire computer is not cheap) and wait for the entire rig to come back.
That sounds high, but it's a lot of different parts you order at the same time. Compared to some of the nightmares I've heard about some of the cut rate configure-your-own sites, it's not bad considering.
OP 12/02/12 8:17:23 PM#16
So i've pretty much just been looking at the processor and motherboard so far and as i keep reading into them i'm changing my mind time and again so here i am lol.
So i was going to just go high end on everything and get an I7 but yeah really no point in it like was said so going I5.
Same with the motherboard i was going to get ASUS Rampage IV Extreme LGA 2011 Intel X79 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 Extended ATX Intel Motherboard http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131802 They say its not very noob friendly and seems like it might be overkill now also but i'm not sure there.
Ram has got me wondering also as i see a lot of 16gb with four sticks of ram rather than two and someone said get two 8gb sticks.
I have a $2000 range. Could go $4000 but really rather not.
Needless to say its for gaming and i play a mix of single player and online/mmo games and looking to get a set up that be as smooth for all of them as i can get.
12/02/12 9:09:10 PM#17
The difference in motherboards is mainly 2 things:
On a $2k budget, may as well get an i7. It won't help for gaming now, and there are few opportunities to use it effectively (maybe certain software while ripping movies/music, or some rendering software, etc), but on that budget, why the hell not.
On a Z77 motherboard, there really isn't any technical reason to prefer 2 DIMMS or 4 DIMMS. From a practical standpoint, if you want to upgrade your RAM in the future, it's easier and more economical to do if you have empty slots, rather than having to pull 2 DIMMs out to replace them with something larger. RAM really only matters when you don't have enough. For most people, they never use more than 4G (since nearly every application/game is still 32-bit and only uses 2G of RAM). But it's cheap, so why not make sure you don't run out - 8G is overkill for most people for the near future as it is, and if you ever hit a condition where it isn't enough, it's easy enough to add more.
Really, with your budget, the real decisions don't deal with the computer itself - that is more or less a cookie cutter build right now. It lay with how you plan to use it:
12/03/12 12:59:56 PM#18
Originally posted by DM19
Considering that you started out looking at a $1400 machine, I'm guessing that you'd prefer to spend less than $2000 so long as it doesn't mean losing significant quality or performance.
All prices including shipping and before rebates:
Processor/motherboard combo deal: $379
That's the standard gaming enthusiast processor, together with a fairly high end motherboard that can do everything you'll want (within reason; it won't cook your meals), plus a lot of stuff you won't.
Case/power supply combo deal: $245 before $35 in rebates
Fairly high end power supply together with a big, feature rich case that will handle whatever you later decide to do with it.
Video card/memory combo deal: $505
You've got the budget to grab a top-of-the-line single GPU card, so here it is. And you don't really need 16 GB of system memory, but it's cheap, so why not? The specs on the memory are pretty good, and two 8 GB modules leaves you room to easily add more on the off chance that someday you decide you need more memory.
Solid state drive: $171
A computer without a good SSD is slow. So here's a good SSD.
Hard drive: $150
How much hard drive capacity do you need? Probably a lot less than you think you need. But you were looking at 4 TB in your original post, so here's a 3 TB hard drive.
Optical drive: $16
Because there's rarely point in spending more unless you want to watch Blu-Ray movies on your computer.
CPU heatsink/fan: $40
New Egg doesn't carry it, but Hard OCP gave it a glowing review. Reasonably good cooling performance, and very, very quiet.
Operating system: $100
Because you need it if you want any Windows software to run. Such as nearly all games.
Total: $1606, including shipping and before $35 in rebates.
I'm assuming that you keep peripherals (keyboard, mouse, speakers, surge protector, monitor) from an old build.
If you're inclined to spend more to get something special, then what do you think about Eyefinity? You could spread a game window across three monitors for an enormous effective monitor resolution.
So how does this compare to what you had listed in your initial post?
The processor is, for gaming purposes, equivalent. The motherboard is a different platform, so it lacks the LGA 2011 features (not relevant to gaming, apart from for a CrossFire/SLI setup that you shouldn't get), but is probably otherwise a little higher quality. The difference between 16 GB and 32 GB of system memory doesn't matter. You lose 1 TB of hard drive capacity. Sounds bad, right?
Well, look at what you gain. You get a top of the line video card instead of mid-range. You get a good SSD, which will make everything feel dramatically more responsive. You get a high end power supply, rather than a piece of junk that is a danger to your system. You get what is probably a substantially nicer case, albeit with a far less gaudy paint job. You get better processor cooling. By my reckoning, that's about $600 worth of upgrades, for a price difference of $200.
OP 12/03/12 5:15:14 PM#19
Video card i think is a bit much i can always get better later on and also not a fan of radeon cards never had much luck with them.
Heatsink i was looking at the http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835608018 down side its really big but reading that its really good.
Only other thing is why windows 8? I was thinking 8 but then so many people been saying go with 7.
OP 12/10/12 7:18:19 PM#20
Originally posted by Quizzical
Ok it's taken me longer than i would have liked to get back to this. So i used most of what you said.
Fan is a http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835608024
GPU is http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130787
Going to take 7 over 8 also.
The SSD I never knew about them till now and did a bit of reading but still not very sure how they work so if you could clear that up i think i'll be golden.