Originally posted by Vhaln

Originally posted by ForumPvP

Originally posted by Vhaln

Like it or not, I think this is the way things are going.  It will have its ups and downs, but like any sort of change, people insist on blowing it all out of proportion.

 

A Gamespot blog entry on the subject..

About that piracy thing,would not change a thing,then they would just hack those DLC items,and maybe even sell those for cheaper,like we see goldsellers now on MMOs.

 

 

Of course, hackers will be able to hack almost anything that doesn't go the way of D3.  I don't think this would prevent anything.  I just think it would make piracy less enticing.  I'd be more likely to pay a few dollars here and there, once I've tried the game, and feel it'd be worth it.  Pirating it wouldn't be worth the trouble, anymore.  Can only speak for myself, but I think there's a ton of grey area here.  

 

They should be thinking of it as working with potential consumers, rather than working to stop theft.  The problem with most anti-piracy efforts is that they refuse to acknowledge the issues and reasons people pirate.  They just take an all or nothing adversarial stance, that ends up just driving even more people away from buying anything.

 

The problem in here is how that articles writer thinks,he thinks that piracy is a huge problem but he cant see that after that kind of change we get all the problems that MMOs have now and he cant see that,which is bit weird.

Theres lots of scamming and cheating etc on online gaming but somehow that writer ignores those and gives a picture that is close to perfection.

Simply: Super Mario Bros 500,wts credits and epic horse (e-mail or whatever message)

Originally posted by GwapoJosh
This is the absolute worst idea I've seen in a long time.. No thanks.

Glad I wasn't the only one LOL.

OP: apart from the box price the game is Free To Play for life.......well atleast untill we have systems that can't run these games anymore.

I am also geussing you don't spend allot of time on game forums to see the outcry's of gamers needing to be online to simply play a singleplayer game, you idea would put every singleplayer game to be online. Keep in mind that most likely every gamer has a internet connection, but not every gamer is alway's able to play at home due to numerous reasons.

On a personal level the FTP MMO's don't work for me either, I do play some of them, but aslong anything as freemium/cashshop can be gotten pure by playing it I have no problems with it. But if a cashshop offers unreachable items ingame then I lose the desire to play.

For me gaming is about the challenge, the experiance, the adventure's which all come together as being fun for me. But if a game is constant stopping me to keep playing because I need to buy X pack or content acces then I feel that games are no longer games.

So I have absolute no idea why you (OP) came up with something like this? Honostly curious as to what made you make up this idea

A> "Would you like to pay $1.00 for xxx" quest? Thank you! "  emmersion breaker

B> Letting my credit card be accessed constanly for every little quest opens up a world of potential for abuse which leads to my next point...

C> Reading my CC statement: "Uh... $1, $2, $5, $3, $2... wait did I buy this, I don't remember doing that, did I talk to that guy... what does this mean on my statement...

D> You think paying 50 or 60 bucks is steep now for a game... piecemeal it up and companies will have you paying 100 for the same content.

E> Tons of potential other problems but there's a few things that jump out at me.

Other than that, great idea! =p'

In all honesty, I think it's an ok model in the MMO industry... I used to despise it, but I've learned to accept it.  I just can't see it at all in a singler player game.

Originally posted by kb4blu

 

Its bad enough with day one DLCs. If single player games do that crap then I will burn my PC and Xbox.

 

I could never fully understand the fuss with the Day One DLC for Mass Effect 3 because that was available on the collectors edition at a higher cost.  You either buy the Collectors Edition with the content or buy the standard edition and buy the DLC. The only thing I can think of for being upset is if you bought the Collectors Edition and felt it a rip off others could get the DLC straight away, cheapening the Collectors Edition

Games like Assassins Creed from Ubisoft had extra content with their Collectors/Limited editions then that extra content became available as DLC later. Although the DLC was not day one, it was avaialble on day one as was on the expensive collectors editions

The only difference between the those two is that people will more likely buy the Collectors Editions from Ubisift so can get that extra content, in case it does not come as DLC later, so for EA to release the content for Mass Effect 3 straight away, means you did not have to buy the Collectors edition to get the content, making it less worthwile spending more money on the collectors editions.

However if they had released DLC on Day One and not be avaialble in a collectors edition then it is bad, as should have been in the game, but this is not the case with ME3 though.

It is getting annoying though, as they are making you spend more just to get an hour or so worth of extra content ie. Far Cry 3 with the 2 Lost Expeditions missions and "monkey business" DLC

The other thing that bugs me is that if you do get the Collectors edition with extra content, that it comes with a code, and you can only use it the once. So if you are finished with the game and want to sell it on, then the extra DLC that came with the Collectors edition is unplayable, and you are left with a standard edition to sell on not the expensive collectors edition you bought.

This is exactly where gaming under the big developers is heading IMO.  I believe that in my lifetime essentially all "AAA games" will basically start as single-player "lobbies" (like an inn, military base, mission selection screen, whatever, that must be accessed through an online account natch) and we'll be asked to pay to unlock every mission, every non-starter item, every special ability, every class, every race, every playable faction, every unit, every building type, every companion character, etc.  It started with selling DLC, and now Day One DLC has kicked the door open.  The direction is onward, not backward, just as it has been with other schemes that have millions of gamers shrugging and making the purchase anyway.  

It absolutely does not matter whether I or a few hundred other "old timers" think it's a horribly player-unfriendly/insulting idea, complain on internet forums, vote with our wallets, whatever ... there's far too much money to be made.  The only reason it will take some time for this format to become standard is because collectively gamers don't like feeling they're being forced to accept big changes all at once.  Take baby steps and give them an opening to argue it actually makes their gaming experience better and nearly all of them will go along just as they always have.

Originally posted by Vhaln

Like it or not, I think this is the way things are going.  It will have its ups and downs, but like any sort of change, people insist on blowing it all out of proportion.

 

A Gamespot blog entry on the subject..

 That may be, but I don'thave to pay for it.

Originally posted by GwapoJosh
This is the absolute worst idea I've seen in a long time.. No thanks.

Couldn't have said it any better :)

Fuck that.

If that ever happens, I'll sell my PC, buy a dumpy little laptop, and write my worlds.