Check out their forums, massive outrage of the public going on.

And as a follow-up to the fact, check out this live feed of a cheater:

http://www.livestream.com/ArtificialAimin?t=898864

Originally posted by Righteous

Check out their forums, massive outrage of the public going on.

And as a follow-up to the fact, check out this live feed of a cheater:

http://www.livestream.com/ArtificialAimin?t=898864

They're deleting them but in the end the information is out, and confirms what some suspected from the get go.  As someone else posted, typical shooter behavior.  If you watch some of the youtube videos of these hacks getting used you can quickly see how just 1 person using this hack can devastate an entire battle, if they are being used on a larger scale (which I suspect they will be), the game will be ruined.

They have always done this on their official boards, regardless of the game.

If there are no negative threads, then everything is fine, right?

Even when the issues are legitimate?

That is pretty much SOE's response to everything: sticking their collective head in the sand. At least until it is far too late to make any difference.

Originally posted by Burntvet

They have always done this on their official boards, regardless of the game.

If there are no negative threads, then everything is fine, right?

Even when the issues are legitimate?

That is pretty much SOE's response to everything: sticking their collective head in the sand. At least until it is far too late to make any difference.

 

 

That seems to be most online games.  Delete the posts and ignore the issue, put out PR spin that you value opinions and are actively working on all issues, wait for the game to collapse on itself.

I mean, most MMOs recently seem to only last a couple years at best with an -active- community, I guess they figure why waste resources combating the issues when most people will quit soon regardless.  The diehards that endure would do so either way.

With planetside 2, like someone said, it's different. In Ureal tournament 2K4, or any other FPS, you simply jump server, since there are thousands, and the hackers leave you alone. And in extreme cases you just make your server login private so you can kick the hacker yourself.

In PS2, one hacker can destroy one of the handful huge servers planetside 2 has because they can devastate a whole region.

Originally posted by Popori

That seems to be most online games.  Delete the posts and ignore the issue, put out PR spin that you value opinions and are actively working on all issues, wait for the game to collapse on itself.

Of course, the issue withmost online gamers is expectation of instant results, combined with promotion of conspiracy theory when it fails to happen.

Not sure which on is the most irritating, really.

1. They already know people are hacking.

2. They are wokring on it.  You cannot prevent hacks 100% of the time.

They delete the threads because they don't want to lose business to new and current players just because they see tons of threads reporting hacking. It also, encourages the hackers to continue their behaivor as it is truely affecting some one.

Honestly, I'd do the samething if I was in their shoes.

Also, for the time I've played since launch, I've yet to run into a hacker.  Some of the people reporting hacks are probably not getting killed by hackers, but instead skilled players.

SOE gets draconic about the forums.  The constantly delete threads that are negative, even when it is about a problem. Durring beta the aimbots were discussed and the threads were promptly delete then.   

I don't understand it but it is the way SOE roles, it not only planetside but it is eq2 and the rest of their boards as well.   The other day we had a push to live that broke a lot of things, even when folks posted in the test forums that the update was giong to cause problems they updated anyway. It took 2 days of hot fixes and we still got stuff that the update broke. When a couple of folks posted in the live forums about the fact they tried to warn the test team those threads were deleted not only from  the forums but also facebook. 

Typical for SOE just saying. 

The whole reason I never buy these type of games anymore, nothing more frustrating and the feeling of wasting money when you empty a magazine on someone at close range for them to not bat an eyelid then turn around on you and kill you with one shot.  People have been cheating on computer games since their creation, magazines were publishing cheat codes, mobile companies have been selling them, books are sold with them.  From a personal point of view I don't understand the need to cheat, obviously people who are unable to achieve a win on their own merits, and people that fail at life itself.

Originally posted by biggarfoot

The whole reason I never buy these type of games anymore, nothing more frustrating and the feeling of wasting money when you empty a magazine on someone at close range for them to not bat an eyelid then turn around on you and kill you with one shot.  People have been cheating on computer games since their creation, magazines were publishing cheat codes, mobile companies have been selling them, books are sold with them.  From a personal point of view I don't understand the need to cheat, obviously people who are unable to achieve a win on their own merits, and people that fail at life itself.

Firstly PS2 doesn't have a purchase price.

Secondly SOE have humped themselves by making the new guns and equipment rediculously hard to get for non-paying players that instead of grinding 4-6 days (~100 hours) just to get enough points (1000) for ONE new weapon on ONE character players are going to resort to cheating.

The worst of it is there are known cheats in this game, there are corps of known cheaters from other games who are actively hacking and cheating and SOE seem unwilling or unable to do anything about it.

PS2 has already become a base flipping exercise on some servers where players actively avoid each other and just exchange continents during off-peak hours.

It's all down to SOE's own greed, this game should have had an initial purchase price and been unlimited F2P from that point onwards with the cash shop restricted to decals and other aesthetic stuff. Instead we have incredibly inflated prices to buy anything worthwhile and a subscription option thats hugely overpriced.

Originally posted by Tayah
I didn't expect anything better with PS2, the first one was plagued with hackers too.

next to the BFR's hacking is probably the major problem with planetside 1, why they couldnt protect their game from it i don't know, all i saw was that it didnt look like they were doing anything about it, which in the end, was why i gave up on the game. It doesnt really surprise me that Planetside 2 is being hacked, nor that SOE are all over their forums deleting threads that highlight this factor of the game.

Someone told me the settings for such things as weapon rate of fire, magazine size etc...are all saved client-side. The only anti-cheat check is included in the launcher, afterwards you are free to modify and inject since the game didn't even start at that point (before clicking "Play").

What this means is, players are even able to inject textures with different alpha channels -> hello wallhacks. Also, hackers are able to modify weapon settings (no recoil, bigger magazines) since everything is managed client-side.

I can't help myself but laugh at such idiocy. We are lucky they didn't decide to let us save our characters to our hdds, lol.

I was goign through twitter and found this

John Smedley‏@j_smedley

we have guys who's purpose in life is to ban the bad guys and dumbasses that use hacking tools.

Now hopefully they do.

Originally posted by Lizardone
I don't play anything that has SOE, won't comment why, but seems some people need todo more research before playing SOE games.

Ditto bad company leads to bad times when you play. I haven't played a $OE involved game since about a year after they took over EQ. I sure am glad.

Originally posted by heocat

Originally posted by Lizardone
I don't play anything that has SOE, won't comment why, but seems some people need todo more research before playing SOE games.

Ditto bad company leads to bad times when you play. I haven't played a $OE involved game since about a year after they took over EQ. I sure am glad.

You guys don't know what your missing.

Originally posted by Righteous

Check out their forums, massive outrage of the public going on.

And as a follow-up to the fact, check out this live feed of a cheater:

http://www.livestream.com/ArtificialAimin?t=898864

https://twitter.com/j_smedley/status/275738278190280704

Smed calling out haruhi after banning him (all 3 accounts) and calling him scumbag.

well this is going to get personal real quick.  hope smed understands what he just did.

Edit:

@Wutzi_bu we don't need to cross reference anything. Use it.. we'll find you. we'll find your family. we'll hunt you down

.....ya , washing my hands lol.