Originally posted by erictlewis

 

Considering yesterday they annouced heroic space missins, I think that is what the secret space stuff was.  Just more space on rails.  

Definitely wrong, they stated SEVERAL times that the new space concept is nothing like the stuff which is already in game.

I´m 110% sure it´s off rails, rest assured.

Will it be good? Check it out.. 2014 I guess

Originally posted by Phry
Maybe their going to dump the Hero Engine, and 'borrow' the one that SOE is using for their games. Still think that most of the games problems/limitations can be laid at the door of the Hero Engine, and is why the space game is single player only. Perhaps the only way they can overcome that, and also why its going to take such a long time, is because their not going to be using the Hero Engine

The Hero engine was a major mistake. However, I would like a xwing vs TF style space combat. This would be really big for a lot of folks.

Originally posted by Butch808
They probably saw that there is a market for space sim style games after Star Citizen managed to claim 6.5 million in crowd funding to finish developing their space game.

I agree, there is a market for Space Sims and X3 just doesn't cut it and other so called Space Sims are nothing more than glorified Space Arcades.

I personally liked JTL but I felt that it was too seperate from ground combat, I'm hoping that their Space Project is something breath taking, perhaps giving Guilds their own bases in space.

Im working on a Starcraft mmorpg...

"But it is far out in the future. You won't hear anything about it any time soon."

trust me.

Originally posted by ignore_me

The super secret ability to display more than 16 characters without FPS drop

This one should work itself out.

Sounds good. But i wont believe it until its live in game haha. Devs these days do a lot of talking. It hurts their credibility imo.

  They couldn't make a great space game experience when they had several years and millions of dollars with tons of developers, writers and artist. Now the games on a bare bones budget, F2P and with most of its previous staff gone you really expect them to come out with a great free flying  (not rails) space game experience?

   Sorry dudes the math doesn't add up. they are just promising you what they know you want to hear to try and tempt you back into spending money on the SW:Tor that currently is. Sure I guess theres a chance that if the game stay afloat and makes enough money for EA in 5-6 years you might get some new space game, but thtas a heck of a long wait, and EA/bioware has already proved even when they had the money and the staff they were glacial in adding anything new of worth

Originally posted by FromHell

Originally posted by erictlewis

 

Considering yesterday they annouced heroic space missins, I think that is what the secret space stuff was.  Just more space on rails.  

Definitely wrong, they stated SEVERAL times that the new space concept is nothing like the stuff which is already in game.

I´m 110% sure it´s off rails, rest assured.

Will it be good? Check it out.. 2014 I guess

 your a optimist!

 What has SW:Tor done in the last year when they actually had the budget and staff that leads you to believe that in another 2 years that they can make such a drastic change with less then a 1/5 of the budget and manpower?

 Guess nothing wrong in dreaming as long as you don't realistically expect those dreams to come true. otherwise your just in for more disappointment that EA/Bioware has brought you already

Originally posted by FromHell

Originally posted by erictlewis

 

Considering yesterday they annouced heroic space missins, I think that is what the secret space stuff was.  Just more space on rails.  

Definitely wrong, they stated SEVERAL times that the new space concept is nothing like the stuff which is already in game.

I´m 110% sure it´s off rails, rest assured.

Will it be good? Check it out.. 2014 I guess

Take a look at the promises we had durring beta

(1) we have 2 years of content banked up ready to go,  ok where has that went

(2) We will have hundreds of planets,  ok where

(3) we will have 10 years worth of content,  ok again where.

I seen a lot of promises and nothing materialized out of those, so yo will have to forgive me when I say that I will beleive it when I see it hit test, and live.

Originally posted by FromHell

Originally posted by erictlewis

 

Considering yesterday they annouced heroic space missins, I think that is what the secret space stuff was.  Just more space on rails.  

Definitely wrong, they stated SEVERAL times that the new space concept is nothing like the stuff which is already in game.

I´m 110% sure it´s off rails, rest assured.

Will it be good? Check it out.. 2014 I guess

Did they actually say it would be off rails?

If not then that 110% it just pure BS, and should be below 100%

At least my comments are usually backed up by facts and statements straight from the horses mouths

It can still be on rails and be something different, I am sure they said the same thing about the Heroic Space missions. Most of the space missions in game are just the same but harder, so something different would be good too

Originally posted by Sevenstar61

It does exist!!!!!!!! 

It doesn't exist until you can play it.

I thought they were happy with space-on-rails anyway, that whole "fantastic" space system and all.

I'd give this a 50/50 of ever coming to fruition anyway, there's never a shortage of promises from developers though.

I remember before swtor launched, bioware devs held a q&a panel with fans. This guy asked about space off rails and the dev that answered basically clowned him. Saying something like, " han and chewie didnt go wandering around in space looking for asteroids to mine lol". And everyone laughed.

Originally posted by Foomerang

I remember before swtor launched, bioware devs held a q&a panel with fans. This guy asked about space off rails and the dev that answered basically clowned him. Saying something like, " han and chewie didnt go wandering around in space looking for asteroids to mine lol". And everyone laughed.

 

That's why they failed. Jack wagons.

Originally posted by Foomerang

I remember before swtor launched, bioware devs held a q&a panel with fans. This guy asked about space off rails and the dev that answered basically clowned him. Saying something like, " han and chewie didnt go wandering around in space looking for asteroids to mine lol". And everyone laughed.

 

Reminds me, another one from D.Erickson on playing alien species during pax 2010:

"If you can't imagine it making out with Princess Leia, you probably won't be able to play it."

Fans answer: 

My god, there are no lengths to which people won't gpo to delude themselves.

Do you really think, do you really believe that EA/BW would firstly be capable of designing the kind of free-roaming Star Wars flight sim we all want?  And secondly if, by the tiniest chance they were able to make it, that they would bolt it on to the worm-eaten piece of crap called SWTOR in an effort to 'save' it?

If they can do it - which evidence suggests they can't - they'll bring it out as a separate game and they'll make you pay through the nose for it after having hyped it to the Moon once again.

What's funny is that the Star Wars Secret Space Project (SSSP) is begining to resemble the Star Wars secret space project (SDI).

Ronald Reagan would be proud?

Originally posted by Sevenstar61

Originally posted by TheCrow2k
I suspect by the time they do deliver this it will be too little too late.

Even if subs would go down for a while, assuming that people won't stay for new content promissed every 6-8 weeks, and I assure you most people will stay as there is nothing on the market at the moment that would tempt them, they will rebound after this project go live.

I don't understand this POV at all.  Sure there are tons of people who play SWTOR because it's the only Star Wars MMO out there.  But plenty of people have had no problem leaving SWTOR for non Star Wars games.  Most people aren't so attached to one IP that they'll ignore other games that might be a better fit for them.

Originally posted by Nevulus
if they add an element as complex & deep such as Eve Online, to what they already have as the "on planet" portion of the game, Id gladly sub again. Heck, even something like Black Prophecy, but a bit more substance.

Have you seen this game? Complex is not a word I would use in the same sentence as it. It'll probably just be poorly thought out cheap instanced PvP.