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  iaintevenmadbreh

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Joined: 11/26/12
Posts: 6

 
OP  11/26/12 1:23:59 AM#1

Now that they released there PVE content (which is basically clones of NPC's they had just in different spots around the map I offically lost faith in this game.

this has got to be one of the most restrictive MMORPG i ever played and gives you no incentive to do anything in this game after the map has been explored.

- 1 gun per class (minus worthless secondaries)

- no economic system/ Item loot  yes NONE AT ALL

- They balanced the game and ALL abilities based on PVP so they are are in turn DULL For PVE

- no progression from the start of the game till Tier 2 and completely maxxed out i did 16 more damage from 400(start game) to 416 (end of t2)

- all you can do is farm worthless XP since XP is locked on that specific tier frame and cant be used in the coming tiers T3-5

- they push this Dynamic content crap down your throat on their forums and videos, which basically means anything you would blow through in a single player game one time and not wanna do it again. firefall has managed to just take that and copy and paste it randomly across the map and since its in a different location its suppose to be dynamic. wtf? seriously wtf?

 

the community asked for world bosses, and they put 2 in the game, one is just a normal ceature they already had just blown up 2x the size, the other is a hampster man that throws fireballs. the whole thing just turned into a real joke and it seems like this game is geared for middle school kids.

 

do not waste 20 dollars try and find a free key have fun for a week and see for yourself

 

 

 

  neorandom

Novice Member

Joined: 1/15/08
Posts: 1753

11/26/12 1:26:34 AM#2

this sounds serious!  till you see the op is 1 post, new account, troll name.

 

i dont know anything about firefall, but i know the guy made an account just to bash it lol.

  Laromuss

Apprentice Member

Joined: 3/13/12
Posts: 331

11/26/12 1:35:56 AM#3
Originally posted by iaintevenmadbreh

Now that they released there PVE content (which is basically clones of NPC's they had just in different spots around the map I offically lost faith in this game.

this has got to be one of the most restrictive MMORPG i ever played and gives you no incentive to do anything in this game after the map has been explored.

- 1 gun per class (minus worthless secondaries)

- no economic system/ Item loot  yes NONE AT ALL

- They balanced the game and ALL abilities based on PVP so they are are in turn DULL For PVE

- no progression from the start of the game till Tier 2 and completely maxxed out i did 16 more damage from 400(start game) to 416 (end of t2)

- all you can do is farm worthless XP since XP is locked on that specific tier frame and cant be used in the coming tiers T3-5

- they push this Dynamic content crap down your throat on their forums and videos, which basically means anything you would blow through in a single player game one time and not wanna do it again. firefall has managed to just take that and copy and paste it randomly across the map and since its in a different location its suppose to be dynamic. wtf? seriously wtf?

 

the community asked for world bosses, and they put 2 in the game, one is just a normal ceature they already had just blown up 2x the size, the other is a hampster man that throws fireballs. the whole thing just turned into a real joke and it seems like this game is geared for middle school kids.

 

do not waste 20 dollars try and find a free key have fun for a week and see for yourself

 

 

 

why would someone waste 20 bucks?  isnt' the game f2p?   

  yaminsux

Hard Core Member

Joined: 12/23/05
Posts: 683

11/26/12 1:43:11 AM#4
Originally posted by Laross
Originally posted by iaintevenmadbreh

Now that they released there PVE content (which is basically clones of NPC's they had just in different spots around the map I offically lost faith in this game.

this has got to be one of the most restrictive MMORPG i ever played and gives you no incentive to do anything in this game after the map has been explored.

- 1 gun per class (minus worthless secondaries)

- no economic system/ Item loot  yes NONE AT ALL

- They balanced the game and ALL abilities based on PVP so they are are in turn DULL For PVE

- no progression from the start of the game till Tier 2 and completely maxxed out i did 16 more damage from 400(start game) to 416 (end of t2)

- all you can do is farm worthless XP since XP is locked on that specific tier frame and cant be used in the coming tiers T3-5

- they push this Dynamic content crap down your throat on their forums and videos, which basically means anything you would blow through in a single player game one time and not wanna do it again. firefall has managed to just take that and copy and paste it randomly across the map and since its in a different location its suppose to be dynamic. wtf? seriously wtf?

 

the community asked for world bosses, and they put 2 in the game, one is just a normal ceature they already had just blown up 2x the size, the other is a hampster man that throws fireballs. the whole thing just turned into a real joke and it seems like this game is geared for middle school kids.

 

do not waste 20 dollars try and find a free key have fun for a week and see for yourself

 

 

 

why would someone waste 20 bucks?  isnt' the game f2p?   

f2p is just a name, it is a trap actually...

  Cakeisyummeh

Novice Member

Joined: 4/12/12
Posts: 211

11/26/12 1:44:10 AM#5
Originally posted by yaminsux
Originally posted by Laross
Originally posted by iaintevenmadbreh

Now that they released there PVE content (which is basically clones of NPC's they had just in different spots around the map I offically lost faith in this game.

this has got to be one of the most restrictive MMORPG i ever played and gives you no incentive to do anything in this game after the map has been explored.

- 1 gun per class (minus worthless secondaries)

- no economic system/ Item loot  yes NONE AT ALL

- They balanced the game and ALL abilities based on PVP so they are are in turn DULL For PVE

- no progression from the start of the game till Tier 2 and completely maxxed out i did 16 more damage from 400(start game) to 416 (end of t2)

- all you can do is farm worthless XP since XP is locked on that specific tier frame and cant be used in the coming tiers T3-5

- they push this Dynamic content crap down your throat on their forums and videos, which basically means anything you would blow through in a single player game one time and not wanna do it again. firefall has managed to just take that and copy and paste it randomly across the map and since its in a different location its suppose to be dynamic. wtf? seriously wtf?

 

the community asked for world bosses, and they put 2 in the game, one is just a normal ceature they already had just blown up 2x the size, the other is a hampster man that throws fireballs. the whole thing just turned into a real joke and it seems like this game is geared for middle school kids.

 

do not waste 20 dollars try and find a free key have fun for a week and see for yourself

 

 

 

why would someone waste 20 bucks?  isnt' the game f2p?   

f2p is just a name, it is a trap actually...

One word: Beta.

And it's a founders pack, you don't need to buy it.

Stop whining about the game just because Chosen clearly handed your ass to you.

  hfztt

Hard Core Member

Joined: 5/31/05
Posts: 689

11/26/12 1:55:26 AM#6
Originally posted by iaintevenmadbreh

- 1 gun per class (minus worthless secondaries)

Learn to play. Secondaries and abilities are the key to success.

- no economic system/ Item loot  yes NONE AT ALL

Item loot was REMOVED due to player demand. Crafting is the way to go.

- They balanced the game and ALL abilities based on PVP so they are are in turn DULL For PVE

Subjective. I disagree.

- no progression from the start of the game till Tier 2 and completely maxxed out i did 16 more damage from 400(start game) to 416 (end of t2)

Learn to craft. WHat you state is only true if you dont craft your T2 items, which just a case of "you are doing it wrong".

- all you can do is farm worthless XP since XP is locked on that specific tier frame and cant be used in the coming tiers T3-5

Like it or hate it, its the same system as World of Tanks. I am not to fond of the system myself, but its hardly a dealbreaker.

- they push this Dynamic content crap down your throat on their forums and videos, which basically means anything you would blow through in a single player game one time and not wanna do it again. firefall has managed to just take that and copy and paste it randomly across the map and since its in a different location its suppose to be dynamic. wtf? seriously wtf?

Dynamic. I WOULD call it dynamic when your NPC's will actaully start invading your bases and band up depending on where they spawn. This creates new tactical situations all the time. Ignore a drop pod, and soon your local spawn point might be gone. Fail to capture that back and they will move on to capture the next. THis means you can run into a huge wandering army that is moving in for an attack. For me thats the very definition of dynamic content.

 

  Siveria

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Joined: 3/11/11
Posts: 1173

11/26/12 2:01:28 AM#7
Originally posted by neorandom

this sounds serious!  till you see the op is 1 post, new account, troll name.

 

i dont know anything about firefall, but i know the guy made an account just to bash it lol.

Well I have been here for a while, and I am in the beta, and the OP has pretty much hit the head on the nail. Firefall is one of the most disappointing titles I have had the.... pleasure of helping to test. Bascalyl all you do is run around shooting random crap for exp for upgrades that really don't do much weaponwise, the mech suit upgrades can make a bit of a diffrence but they mostly are movement based. If your not in the beta and are excited for firefall, don't be, your not missing much worth mentioning. About the only items you pickup are minerals that are used to mostly make consumable items. There is no itemization or anything, everything is unlocks, and the unlocks aren't really much stronger than the gun you start with. All in all the game is a pretty big dissapointment. I heard the pvp is good but the game is mostly a pure pve game, with pvp just tossed in on the side.

Being a pessimist is a win-win pattern of thinking. If you're a pessimist (I'll admit that I am!) you're either:

A. Proven right (if something bad happens)

or

B. Pleasantly surprised (if something good happens)

Either way, you can't lose! Try it out sometime!

  Psyentist

Novice Member

Joined: 10/19/12
Posts: 49

11/26/12 2:16:20 AM#8

I'd also agree with the OP on many aspects of FF, there's going to need to be some serious additions to make it a viable title in terms of serious gaming.  I got a key from a friend and I only used it for a coupele hours over 2 nights and I felt like there was nothing else to try or even attempt to master.  

Sure its got the visuals for a run through on a lark (and I do really love the look), but to keep anyone interested there has to be much, much more endearing to the player.  It hard not to think of it as a kind of indy version of planet side, minus the huge array of upgrades, implements, and vehicles.  Its fun, but so, so limited and I can only imagine how hacking and botting will impact the already fragile balance of power between class types.

As for "Dynamism", ooh look, the objective is on the other side of the room!  You really got us that time!  Pfft.

  hfztt

Hard Core Member

Joined: 5/31/05
Posts: 689

11/26/12 2:17:35 AM#9
Originally posted by Siveria
Originally posted by neorandom

this sounds serious!  till you see the op is 1 post, new account, troll name.

 

i dont know anything about firefall, but i know the guy made an account just to bash it lol.

Well I have been here for a while, and I am in the beta, and the OP has pretty much hit the head on the nail. Firefall is one of the most disappointing titles I have had the.... pleasure of helping to test. Bascalyl all you do is run around shooting random crap for exp for upgrades that really don't do much weaponwise, the mech suit upgrades can make a bit of a diffrence but they mostly are movement based. If your not in the beta and are excited for firefall, don't be, your not missing much worth mentioning. About the only items you pickup are minerals that are used to mostly make consumable items. There is no itemization or anything, everything is unlocks, and the unlocks aren't really much stronger than the gun you start with. All in all the game is a pretty big dissapointment. I heard the pvp is good but the game is mostly a pure pve game, with pvp just tossed in on the side.

And again: CRAFTING

You should use your minerals to build uber versions of your gear, not consumables.

  trash656

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Joined: 10/18/05
Posts: 378

It is easier to Fight for Principles then it is to Live up to them.

11/28/12 3:45:14 AM#10

Yeah, MMO Gamers in general now a days are pretty gullible when it comes to believing everything what the developers throw at them in Video's. Everytime a new game comes out all I see a bunch of Fat half balding nerds lined up, with a pile of cash in their sweaty greasy hands, wearing there backpacks so they can tcarry all their food/soda with them thinking every new game is the second comming of jesus, forking over 60$ when the money could be better spent on helping some poor bastard trying to get a descent job, or a helping hand.

I've been saying this for years,  I said this about SWTOR, AoC, and a butt load of other mis leading MMO's that have been released over the years. DO not believe a thing they tell you in gameplay videos. The people doing the videos are trying to hype the games they develope to get people to buy them so they can make money, especially all these founders packs they want you to buy.

With SWTOR people were spending 150$ on collector editions when they havin't even played the game. Then they complained how dissapointed they were. How F" dumb is that? I remember back in 2008 Funcom represetative Erling Ellingson saying that Age of Conan was an open world game, stating they had directx 10 support, and that the game was revolutionary and something completly new to the genre when in fact the only thing that was new was the combat, and the fact dirextx10 support wasn't even in the game until 2 months after release.

When are people ever going to learn that you should never believe everything you watch on T.V,  Gamers, especially when it comes to games. This is why we have so many mis-informed ignorant dim witted morons walking the world right now, all media whores who can't be bothered to think for themselves.

 

Cheers,

-Trash

  User Deleted
11/28/12 3:48:58 AM#11
Isn't firefall a cash shop F2P game?  You should pretty much know upfront what kind of game experience you're getting with that model...
  Boneserino

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Joined: 12/08/07
Posts: 1055

11/28/12 3:59:40 AM#12
Originally posted by asmkm22
Isn't firefall a cash shop F2P game?  You should pretty much know upfront what kind of game experience you're getting with that model...

I could say the same thing about  sub-based games.  What do you get with them, you ask??

Why .... the usual generic same old, same old of course!!  With a nice monthly dent in your pocketbook!

Seriously, stop with the all F2P sucks bullcrap.  It makes you look stupid.    

FFA Nonconsentual Full Loot PvP ...You know you want it!!

  sudo

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Joined: 8/23/05
Posts: 699

11/28/12 4:05:45 AM#13

Thank you for saving my time, guys. Not touching this game with a ten foot pole ;)

"Only in quiet waters do things mirror themselves undistorted.
Only in a quiet mind is adequate perception of the world."
Hans Margolius

  hfztt

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Joined: 5/31/05
Posts: 689

11/28/12 3:14:52 PM#14
Originally posted by trash656
<RANT>

And the connection to FireFall is?

  User Deleted
11/29/12 9:28:24 PM#15
Originally posted by iaintevenmadbreh

Now that they released there PVE content (which is basically clones of NPC's they had just in different spots around the map I offically lost faith in this game.

this has got to be one of the most restrictive MMORPG i ever played and gives you no incentive to do anything in this game after the map has been explored.

- 1 gun per class (minus worthless secondaries)

- no economic system/ Item loot  yes NONE AT ALL

- They balanced the game and ALL abilities based on PVP so they are are in turn DULL For PVE

- no progression from the start of the game till Tier 2 and completely maxxed out i did 16 more damage from 400(start game) to 416 (end of t2)

- all you can do is farm worthless XP since XP is locked on that specific tier frame and cant be used in the coming tiers T3-5

- they push this Dynamic content crap down your throat on their forums and videos, which basically means anything you would blow through in a single player game one time and not wanna do it again. firefall has managed to just take that and copy and paste it randomly across the map and since its in a different location its suppose to be dynamic. wtf? seriously wtf?

 

the community asked for world bosses, and they put 2 in the game, one is just a normal ceature they already had just blown up 2x the size, the other is a hampster man that throws fireballs. the whole thing just turned into a real joke and it seems like this game is geared for middle school kids.

 

do not waste 20 dollars try and find a free key have fun for a week and see for yourself

Lets take this from the top shall we:

- 1 gun per class (minus worthless secondaries)

There are more guns being added, right now each class has one type of gun. Yet Assaults are getting Fusion Cannons, Engineers are getting Flamethrowers and other Frames are getting other types of weapons.

 

- no economic system/ Item loot  yes NONE AT ALL

Because Red5 is focusing on Gameplay and how to handle crystite generation before working on the framework for the Econmic system.

 

- They balanced the game and ALL abilities based on PVP so they are are in turn DULL For PVE

Also incorrect, they made large changes to the player progression flow as they were working on the PVP pass, the PVE pass is next in line for abilities but its always a work in progress.

 

- no progression from the start of the game till Tier 2 and completely maxxed out i did 16 more damage from 400(start game) to 416 (end of t2)

How the frames scale isn't set in stone, and Red5 is obviously going to change it. The tier system is barely out of its first pass.

- all you can do is farm worthless XP since XP is locked on that specific tier frame and cant be used in the coming tiers T3-5

Actually, once again it can be. Won't be at a 1:1 ratio.

- they push this Dynamic content crap down your throat on their forums and videos, which basically means anything you would blow through in a single player game one time and not wanna do it again. firefall has managed to just take that and copy and paste it randomly across the map and since its in a different location its suppose to be dynamic. wtf? seriously wtf?

I guess you haven't noticed how the AI pushes certain areas, or even tries to take over locations of the world map.

 

the community asked for world bosses, and they put 2 in the game, one is just a normal ceature they already had just blown up 2x the size, the other is a hampster man that throws fireballs. the whole thing just turned into a real joke and it seems like this game is geared for middle school kids.

Yes, its called a test. Put in simple bosses at the start to get a feel and learn from it so the next bosses they add or replace the current ones with will be better.

 

do not waste 20 dollars try and find a free key have fun for a week and see for yourself

No, but I can say you're not required to spend 20bucks to get in the beta. And infact I'll say this to Sudo you said you wont touch it. I'll give you a beta key and a tiki mask if you like it.

 

Lastly, the game is an actual beta. Red5 is testing features, code and actively wants feedback. Its a real beta, not a pre-release demo.

  Wicoa

Novice Member

Joined: 1/08/07
Posts: 1614

11/30/12 11:43:06 AM#16
Well I am so grateful for my "free" beta key I got for this weekend so I can try the "BETA".  To get a feel of the game.  Just try it yourselves thats my best advice. I like chinese food, some people I know don't that doesnt stop me from eating chinese.!
  Karahandras

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Joined: 8/11/08
Posts: 1669

All it takes for evil to succeed is for the good to stand by and do nothing

11/30/12 11:47:00 AM#17
Originally posted by trash656

Yeah, MMO Gamers in general now a days are pretty gullible when it comes to believing everything what the developers throw at them in Video's. Everytime a new game comes out all I see a bunch of Fat half balding nerds lined up, with a pile of cash in their sweaty greasy hands, wearing there backpacks so they can tcarry all their food/soda with them thinking every new game is the second comming of jesus, forking over 60$ when the money could be better spent on helping some poor bastard trying to get a descent job, or a helping hand.

I've been saying this for years,  I said this about SWTOR, AoC, and a butt load of other mis leading MMO's that have been released over the years. DO not believe a thing they tell you in gameplay videos. The people doing the videos are trying to hype the games they develope to get people to buy them so they can make money, especially all these founders packs they want you to buy.

With SWTOR people were spending 150$ on collector editions when they havin't even played the game. Then they complained how dissapointed they were. How F" dumb is that? I remember back in 2008 Funcom represetative Erling Ellingson saying that Age of Conan was an open world game, stating they had directx 10 support, and that the game was revolutionary and something completly new to the genre when in fact the only thing that was new was the combat, and the fact dirextx10 support wasn't even in the game until 2 months after release.

When are people ever going to learn that you should never believe everything you watch on T.V,  Gamers, especially when it comes to games. This is why we have so many mis-informed ignorant dim witted morons walking the world right now, all media whores who can't be bothered to think for themselves.

 

Cheers,

-Trash

Although I'll wait and see what's being said after the game is released I have to say i do agree with this.

  Zorgo

Elite Member

Joined: 12/05/05
Posts: 2265

Who did wrong? The advertiser hired to sell the game or the consumer who put faith in advertising?

11/30/12 4:50:45 PM#18
Originally posted by Wicoa
Well I am so grateful for my "free" beta key I got for this weekend so I can try the "BETA".  To get a feel of the game.  Just try it yourselves thats my best advice. I like chinese food, some people I know don't that doesnt stop me from eating chinese.!

Well, the FBI or the police or someone should. Cannibalism I'm pretty sure is illegal.

  gordiflu

Novice Member

Joined: 1/22/07
Posts: 764

11/30/12 6:15:31 PM#19
Originally posted by Boneserino
Originally posted by asmkm22
Isn't firefall a cash shop F2P game?  You should pretty much know upfront what kind of game experience you're getting with that model...

I could say the same thing about  sub-based games.  What do you get with them, you ask??

Why .... the usual generic same old, same old of course!!  With a nice monthly dent in your pocketbook!

Seriously, stop with the all F2P sucks bullcrap.  It makes you look stupid.    

Ok.

Can you please show me one single P2P game with a smaller map? Just one.

can you please explain why failing P2P games go F2P but succeeding ones don´t?

Can you just simply be a bit more realistic? Fact is, 99.999999999% of the F2P games are subpar, and 99.99999999% of the leading and most populated games are subs-based. Becouse, most of the times, you actually get what you pay for.

Edit: typo

  negativf4kk

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Joined: 6/25/12
Posts: 375

11/30/12 6:29:13 PM#20

Not going to perticipate in beta for a simple reason: like the style of the game, like the way they develop PvE out of PvP (not the other way around like all other mmo developers). All other points can be applyed to most betas.

Looking forward to release.

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