Originally posted by Arcondo87

you not the only one OP. Though this site is GW2 pro. Ppl are blind and they think the fact that its a free of sub based mmo (if you can even call it a mmo) it makes up for all the black bagging of accts and poor lack of support this game has. I for one pray every night b 4 i go to bed that this company hits a hardship soon and goes under...

My old guild from DayZ (consist of 24 ppl) were all pumped up and hyped for GW2 saying its the best game ever created since running water! Now only 2-3 of them play it, the rest say its boring. DURRRR Glad i didnt spend my hard earnd cash on this joke...rather spend it on the new Family Guy game 

Where to start. If you look at the site, this site is GW2 negative (the forum not the actual content). The content is neutral - the reviews are the reviewers opinion and it is just as valid as yours.

THe point is, this game is doing fine WITHOUT a sub and it brings up the question - why are the other games asking subs. Answer I came up with is because people like you think they HAVE to pay a sub. You think you get a better game because of it and it not neccessarilty true.

I don't wish bad on any company. There are too many unemployed people out there. Your attitude reminds of the little kid who couldn't have his way, so he stamped his feet and had temper tantrums non stop until he got is way.

My guild DvDF, was around 50 people  at the start of GW2 and we are now 250-300 people now because people like the game and want to be in a very active guild.

Spend you money on Family Guy - yoour choice. Just don't belittle other people's choice either.

Originally posted by Arcondo87

you not the only one OP. Though this site is GW2 pro. Ppl are blind and they think the fact that its a free of sub based mmo (if you can even call it a mmo) it makes up for all the black bagging of accts and poor lack of support this game has. I for one pray every night b 4 i go to bed that this company hits a hardship soon and goes under...

My old guild from DayZ (consist of 24 ppl) were all pumped up and hyped for GW2 saying its the best game ever created since running water! Now only 2-3 of them play it, the rest say its boring. DURRRR Glad i didnt spend my hard earnd cash on this joke...rather spend it on the new Family Guy game 

WTF? lol

Alright last post in this thread I promise, I know I said Peace out earlier, but this made my day.

Originally posted by Elikal

Emphasis on *for me*. I have no clue how active people are in general. Tho I'd like to know.

Really, it was just a short lived experienced, strangely even MUCH shorter than ANY other big MMO of the last years. Heck, I played SWTOR 4-5 months before I really had enough. Here, after 6 weeks I really began to feel tired and bored. I mean, don't get me wrong, visually and by design this is probably THE most beautiful game world, at least in fantasy. But so much other stuff just didn't work for me. I can just sum up some impressions.

 

- COMBAT SYSTEM: While I enjoyed the fresh and different feeling at first a lot, the longer I played the more bored I felt. In some way, most classes played way too similar. For instance, a WOW Druid or Mage REALLY play different. Not to speak of their various specializations. In GW2 a Warrior and Vanguard doesn't feel different, and even a Thief and a Ranger feel just a bit different. Not really overmuch. The few skills you have really limit the variaty, and I miss my 3-4 full skillbars and the many options how to fight. Any char loses health WAAAY too fast, so it forces you to lolcopter and evade, which over time just began to get on my nerves and making me feel weak.

 

- LACK OF TRINITY: Yeah I am an outspoken fan of the Trinity, because I love the REAL cooperation of teams it allows. Any other jack-of-all-trade system like GW2 never ever worked creating good teamplay. There isn't much in terms of social gameplay experience either. *shrug*

 

- EVENTS: At first this event system really looked pleasing and fun. But again, over time I began to feel dull and nauseated. I really stopped caring for the story, and just realized I was simply grinding that damn bar that filled as I did whatever the "event" told me to. I never thought I say that, but I actually miss real quests. Somehow I can't help but think a real quest can bring more diversity that these "fill bar X while doing Y" event stuff. Events would have been good additionally, like the Rifts. But as the sole system I found them too weak. And the events don't create any social experience either. Unlike in Rift people are not grouped and thus not inclined to do stuff together still. Everyone just silently works "together" a while and then runs off.

 

- BORING ENDGAME: As ever so often, GW2 didn't make much better endgame. I like the open world WvW a lot, but how long can you conquer the same castle over and over until it gets old? The last 20 level zones are tough, some impossible to solo, and I felt like I was way too easy overpowered by mobs. So endgame felt more like a chore to me. I wasn't even able to finish my stories, because in the last level the story instances are too tough for me, and nobody ever joined me to help. :/

 

*shrug* If you enjoy the game, thats really fine. But I am really let down. MORE than by SWTOR to be honest. I am not that angry because I was a huge Star Wars fan, and I never cared that much about GW2. I really wanted to like it, and at first I was totally thriled. But the longer I played the more I got bored, and I really never got bored THAT fast than with GW2. Just my two cents.

Funy thing is when i said almost the same things on the 1st glimp of a game and said what we will expect from GW2 when it goes live i got baned from moderators every time :D

It makes me wonder why is that?

Originally posted by botrytis

Where to start. If you look at the site, this site is GW2 negative (the forum not the actual content). The content is neutral - the reviews are the reviewers opinion and it is just as valid as yours.

GW2 negative? Oh it's say worse than that, this whole website is MMO negative. After trashing SWTOR for being a "WoW clone" (A term I still don't agree with) they now hate GW2 for being too different from WoW. Oh well, I'm sure next year the haters will go straight back into the WoW-clone mode, "WHY DID I PAY $60 FOR WOW IN CYRODIL!!! BLARG WOW CLONE BLARG"

Originally posted by UWNVME

Originally posted by botrytis

Where to start. If you look at the site, this site is GW2 negative (the forum not the actual content). The content is neutral - the reviews are the reviewers opinion and it is just as valid as yours.

GW2 negative? Oh it's say worse than that, this whole website is MMO negative. After trashing SWTOR for being a "WoW clone" (A term I still don't agree with) they now hate GW2 for being too different from WoW. Oh well, I'm sure next year the haters will go straight back into the WoW-clone mode, "WHY DID I PAY $60 FOR WOW IN CYRODIL!!! BLARG WOW CLONE BLARG"

I don't think this site is negative towards GW2.  Not if you don't count the same 5 to 10 people who repeatedly post negative stuff.  Once you dismiss the opinions or those people and their "Mr. 1 post alt" you are left with a very positive impression.

well i my age is over 500 hours so far, and still i didnt got bored the game...

maybe is cause i play with my gf who is noob, and i have slow rates of game exploration, maybe there is the pleasure, cause i never bored the game ... and my main is engineer with limited weapon choices ..!

anyway thats about personal taste, you stayed at SWtoR for 4 months i couldnt stay for 4 hours, thanks god they had open beta..

gl on your next game : )

Basically same here.   I'd go into more detail, but I've discussed this entire subject enough.

I got over 900hrs and I love it. I read what you said and I dont agree with it at all.

However this is just me. Without trinity is wonderful and yes because their no 100% you gotta fill this role. Group can really suck sometimes.

However, if you know the people and work together it way more fun then any trinity. You cover each other backs, keep changing roles and so on.

Again this is just how I see it, but it the best MMO Ive play yet.

Captain Jean-Luc Picard:Sarek of Vulcan never confused what he wanted with the truth.

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Originally posted by EsLafiel
I got over 900hrs and I love it. I read what you said and I dont agree with it at all.

However this is just me. Without trinity is wonderful and yes because their no 100% you gotta fill this role. Group can really suck sometimes.

 

However, if you know the people and work together it way more fun then any trinity. You cover each other backs, keep changing roles and so on.

 

Again this is just how I see it, but it the best MMO Ive play yet.

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I would really like to see proof of that just out of sheer amazement. Over 900 hours? Thats ten hours a day, seven days a week for three months.

I guess this is a very influential and well informed topic from the OP. I'm sold and I'll hang it up right here.

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Originally posted by The_Korrigan
Yep, a big, big fail... buy to play, no subscription fee, and monthly FREE content patches (one is already planned for January, so that doesn't stop in December)... HOW DARE THEY? This is really total fail. Sub par service. I mean, I paid 60 bucks for this game, and I get free content thrown at me at least 3x faster than any other MMORPG on the market...

That's it, I'm canceling my subscription as we speak.

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Originally posted by cronius77
i tool a long break from this game and just went back starting over a new guardian to mess around on . I lasted about three days until i went back to swtor and that has to speak volumes in my eyes. The same 5 skill mashing with no progression at all was just outright boring to me now after i took a break . Combat didnt even feel fun it just felt gimickly like tera was now. Playing SWTOR again for awhile just makes me appriciate the trinity system and more defined class rolls and much better RP story than GW2 has. Like I said just an opinion but i feel like GW2 tried to do everything to make themselves different but did it all half assed and its just not fun to me. SWTOR has tons of issues to inlcuding a nitwit team that just doesnt get it , but the combat is still trinity based but has some action to it better than Rift wow etc.

See I really like the combat and the more action oriented RaiderZ style (I didn't play Tera).  When Iog into games that have target locked combat it just feels very formulaic and programatic.  Why move because the attack is going to hit me anyway.  I get the snare/cc to get out of melee range, but spells and ranged attacks don't miss unless the rng math formula dictates.  I still enjoy a couple games with that style of combat, but I don't enjoy them for that combat, but for whatever else they have to offer.

Again with the Trinity: it's not something I mind, but the way it's implemented in most games feels so cookie cutter and predefined.  I don't mind a soft trinity with classes that can absorb or mitigate damage, but the forced aggro mechanic just drives me crazy.  I actually like the aggro mechanic in GW2.  I do enjoy healing and miss that role, but I also enjoy the cc and shutdown roles too and GW2 does offer that.

I'm hoping games in the future (Neverwinter and Wildstar come to mind) will combine some more of the action oriented combat with some traditional roles but leave out the very dated forced aggro mechanic.  The forced aggro is something that either needs to evolve or die.

Originally posted by Torvaldr

Originally posted by cronius77
i tool a long break from this game and just went back starting over a new guardian to mess around on . I lasted about three days until i went back to swtor and that has to speak volumes in my eyes. The same 5 skill mashing with no progression at all was just outright boring to me now after i took a break . Combat didnt even feel fun it just felt gimickly like tera was now. Playing SWTOR again for awhile just makes me appriciate the trinity system and more defined class rolls and much better RP story than GW2 has. Like I said just an opinion but i feel like GW2 tried to do everything to make themselves different but did it all half assed and its just not fun to me. SWTOR has tons of issues to inlcuding a nitwit team that just doesnt get it , but the combat is still trinity based but has some action to it better than Rift wow etc.

See I really like the combat and the more action oriented RaiderZ style (I didn't play Tera).  When Iog into games that have target locked combat it just feels very formulaic and programatic.  Why move because the attack is going to hit me anyway.  I get the snare/cc to get out of melee range, but spells and ranged attacks don't miss unless the rng math formula dictates.  I still enjoy a couple games with that style of combat, but I don't enjoy them for that combat, but for whatever else they have to offer.

Again with the Trinity: it's not something I mind, but the way it's implemented in most games feels so cookie cutter and predefined.  I don't mind a soft trinity with classes that can absorb or mitigate damage, but the forced aggro mechanic just drives me crazy.  I actually like the aggro mechanic in GW2.  I do enjoy healing and miss that role, but I also enjoy the cc and shutdown roles too and GW2 does offer that.

I'm hoping games in the future (Neverwinter and Wildstar come to mind) will combine some more of the action oriented combat with some traditional roles but leave out the very dated forced aggro mechanic.  The forced aggro is something that either needs to evolve or die.

the one thing i did really like about Tera was the block mechanic on lancers , i know its just stand there but manually blocking big attacks was fun instead of having to dodge as a tank. Guild Wars 2 floating combat was great for the first month and during beta for me , but after going back to SWTOR and still having no auto attack it just felt better to me even though its kinda just standing there unless you play a ranged class. I'll tell you one thing swtor got right over a lot of games is there interrupt system . I see people on the forums complaining about how hard missions are all the time but if you use your interrupts , you can easily just about solo any elite or hero mob with no issues at all. I just wish guild wars 2 had a form of trinity system and more progression in terms of skills and feats . I enjoyed how beautiful the world was but like i said earlier the game to me just feels like it was so trying to be different than wow Rift WAR etc , that it missed the point entirely about what makes people still enjoy those games and go back to them.

Originally posted by StoneRoses

I guess this is a very influential and well informed topic from the OP. I'm sold and I'll hang it up right here.

He's welcome to his opinion.  If it hurts your feelings, don't contribute to the thread.