Originally posted by Rayshe
Im a TSW fan, Big time. And if TSW can survive with the subs it has. so can SWTOR.

The difference is SWTOR needs 500K subs to break even. TSW does not, and has not yet gone F2P, meaning they are surviving nicely on their monthly fee

Originally posted by superniceguy

Originally posted by Rayshe
Im a TSW fan, Big time. And if TSW can survive with the subs it has. so can SWTOR.

The difference is SWTOR needs 500K subs to break even. TSW does not, and has not yet gone F2P, meaning they are surviving nicely on their monthly fee

TOR went F2P after almost a year.  We still have to wait to see if TSW has the same fate, since it's only about 5 months old.

Originally posted by Rayshe
Also given that its been an hour and ive havent been able to even play the game 5 minuites. if this lag continues and is the same for anyone else. i wont be suprised if they lose more subs.

WOOOOW? did you get lag on the level 1? you have a terrible computer lol 

Originally posted by lucasdeis

Originally posted by superniceguy

Originally posted by Rayshe
Im a TSW fan, Big time. And if TSW can survive with the subs it has. so can SWTOR.

The difference is SWTOR needs 500K subs to break even. TSW does not, and has not yet gone F2P, meaning they are surviving nicely on their monthly fee

first i want to say i hate you, i saw you here in mmorpg forums of swtor trolling all the time, second SWTOR doesn't need 500k subs anymore. with the F2P shop  EA is getting money each minut, that means they can survive with less than 500k and get money from F2P shop

Here is an official statement straight from the horses mouth of EA on 1st Aug following the F2P announcement

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-19077238

The President of EA Labels Frank Gibeau said the Star Wars game would still break even so long as it maintained 500,000 subscribers, but admitted that its current performance was "not good enough".

Have you got a link to something after that to say they do not need 500K subs any more?

Originally posted by Rayshe
Also given that its been an hour and ive havent been able to even play the game 5 minuites. if this lag continues and is the same for anyone else. i wont be suprised if they lose more subs.

Check on your side as I do not experience any lag. And I am in game right now,

Originally posted by superniceguy

Originally posted by lucasdeis

Originally posted by superniceguy

Originally posted by Rayshe
Im a TSW fan, Big time. And if TSW can survive with the subs it has. so can SWTOR.

The difference is SWTOR needs 500K subs to break even. TSW does not, and has not yet gone F2P, meaning they are surviving nicely on their monthly fee

first i want to say i hate you, i saw you here in mmorpg forums of swtor trolling all the time, second SWTOR doesn't need 500k subs anymore. with the F2P shop  EA is getting money each minut, that means they can survive with less than 500k and get money from F2P shop

Here is an official statement straight from the horses mouth of EA on 1st Aug following the F2P announcement

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-19077238

The President of EA Labels Frank Gibeau said the Star Wars game would still break even so long as it maintained 500,000 subscribers, but admitted that its current performance was "not good enough".

 

Have you got a link to something after that to say they do not need 500K subs any more?

man man, can you think please? that was before F2P came out. they don't need anymore, they haven't said we need 500k again. that means swtor doesn't need for survive, they can get more money with the F2P shop. i have a friend who spent 200 dolars in the first day lol

Originally posted by superniceguy

Originally posted by lucasdeis

Originally posted by superniceguy

Originally posted by Rayshe
Im a TSW fan, Big time. And if TSW can survive with the subs it has. so can SWTOR.

The difference is SWTOR needs 500K subs to break even. TSW does not, and has not yet gone F2P, meaning they are surviving nicely on their monthly fee

first i want to say i hate you, i saw you here in mmorpg forums of swtor trolling all the time, second SWTOR doesn't need 500k subs anymore. with the F2P shop  EA is getting money each minut, that means they can survive with less than 500k and get money from F2P shop

Here is an official statement straight from the horses mouth of EA on 1st Aug following the F2P announcement

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-19077238

The President of EA Labels Frank Gibeau said the Star Wars game would still break even so long as it maintained 500,000 subscribers, but admitted that its current performance was "not good enough".

 

Have you got a link to something after that to say they do not need 500K subs any more?

That was before F2P. If you would hear the constant pop up of cartel boxes on fleet, which drives me nuts because I want to open next one, you would know that they are getting a lot of money from F2P

In fact their comment from Livestream Event was

The numbers have blown away our expectations, which means good things for the players and the game.

Edit: considering that I spent over $300 so far and I am not the only one LOL - they are getting nice profit from F2P.

Originally posted by Sevenstar61

Originally posted by superniceguy

Originally posted by lucasdeis

Originally posted by superniceguy

Originally posted by Rayshe
Im a TSW fan, Big time. And if TSW can survive with the subs it has. so can SWTOR.

The difference is SWTOR needs 500K subs to break even. TSW does not, and has not yet gone F2P, meaning they are surviving nicely on their monthly fee

first i want to say i hate you, i saw you here in mmorpg forums of swtor trolling all the time, second SWTOR doesn't need 500k subs anymore. with the F2P shop  EA is getting money each minut, that means they can survive with less than 500k and get money from F2P shop

Here is an official statement straight from the horses mouth of EA on 1st Aug following the F2P announcement

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-19077238

The President of EA Labels Frank Gibeau said the Star Wars game would still break even so long as it maintained 500,000 subscribers, but admitted that its current performance was "not good enough".

 

Have you got a link to something after that to say they do not need 500K subs any more?

That was before F2P. If you would hear the constant pop up of cartel boxes on fleet, which drives me nuts because I want to open next one, you would know that they are getting a lot of money from F2P

In fact their comment from Livestream Event was

The numbers have blown away our expectations, which means good things for the players and the game.

I said after the F2P announcement not it being in game

THat is the whole point it going F2P as subs were not getting it. They still need the equivalent of 500K subs from F2P, otherwise if it did not need that many, it would not have gone F2P

Originally posted by superniceguy

Originally posted by lucasdeis

Originally posted by superniceguy

Originally posted by Rayshe
Im a TSW fan, Big time. And if TSW can survive with the subs it has. so can SWTOR.

The difference is SWTOR needs 500K subs to break even. TSW does not, and has not yet gone F2P, meaning they are surviving nicely on their monthly fee

first i want to say i hate you, i saw you here in mmorpg forums of swtor trolling all the time, second SWTOR doesn't need 500k subs anymore. with the F2P shop  EA is getting money each minut, that means they can survive with less than 500k and get money from F2P shop

Here is an official statement straight from the horses mouth of EA on 1st Aug following the F2P announcement

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-19077238

The President of EA Labels Frank Gibeau said the Star Wars game would still break even so long as it maintained 500,000 subscribers, but admitted that its current performance was "not good enough".

 

Have you got a link to something after that to say they do not need 500K subs any more?

you are not aswering what we put. you don't know what you can do now? lol noob, we told you, F2P shop gets money each second

Originally posted by lucasdeis

Originally posted by superniceguy

Originally posted by lucasdeis

Originally posted by superniceguy

Originally posted by Rayshe
Im a TSW fan, Big time. And if TSW can survive with the subs it has. so can SWTOR.

The difference is SWTOR needs 500K subs to break even. TSW does not, and has not yet gone F2P, meaning they are surviving nicely on their monthly fee

first i want to say i hate you, i saw you here in mmorpg forums of swtor trolling all the time, second SWTOR doesn't need 500k subs anymore. with the F2P shop  EA is getting money each minut, that means they can survive with less than 500k and get money from F2P shop

Here is an official statement straight from the horses mouth of EA on 1st Aug following the F2P announcement

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-19077238

The President of EA Labels Frank Gibeau said the Star Wars game would still break even so long as it maintained 500,000 subscribers, but admitted that its current performance was "not good enough".

 

Have you got a link to something after that to say they do not need 500K subs any more?

you are not aswering what we put. you don't know what you can do now? lol noob, we told you, F2P shop gets money each second

It still needs 500K subs, and if they are getting that, then game is good then, and their F2P plan worked

It shows where the priorities are for sure.  "far out in the future" for space combat, "no time frame" on makeb, but we can look forward to new shop items weekly and new gambling packs monthly.  I guess it doesn't matter about space combat anymore anyway, the statement about the cathar's success in the item shop determining wether or not we will ever see new races again (which makes it clear that any more races that are introduced will also be item shop exclusive) was the thousandth cut for me.

I know some people are fine with this and I guess thats your right.  Doesn't make what they are doing to their customers ethical or smart in the long run.

Originally posted by Sevenstar61

Originally posted by Rydeson
Interview was a joke.. talk about PR hype and trying to boast somethingt that isnt' there.. I just checked server status, 2 standard and 6 heavy.. NOT one server is very heavy or full..   F2P surge will be short lived..   I see NO hope for this game in the future unless they can talk about their version of NGE..

Did you log in? Game is packed with players. On the Ebon Hawk it seems to be the same amount of players right now at heavy as it was week or two ago on full. Possible that they adjust the caps on servers. Neverless there are always less people playing on weekdays comparing with weekends in any game.

They didnt adjust anything, you very well know when servers go to near full they start ...chocking...with all kinds of side-effects.

It hasnt been noted for a while now.

Originally posted by Sevenstar61

It looks that Space Project is in work, but we will have to wait for it.  No matter LOL I am so excited about it!!!!!

It does exist!!!!!!!!

 

Q: How is the super space project doing? Does it exist?

Schubert: Oh, it exists.

Hickman: I was actually playing what you're talking about yesterday, running through the prototype demo. I wish I could give you details. It's great. It's a departure from our current space game. We have a team dedicated to working on it. But it is far out in the future. You won't hear anything about it any time soon.

Schubert: It is under wraps. It is a lot of fun. It's definitely not anything we've shipped in the original product.

 

BioWare Livestream Q&A Coverage from today

Damion Schubert (Lead Designer), Jeff Hickman (Producer), and Joveth Gonzalez (Community) are present for the Q&A

http://www.darthhater.com/articles/swtor-news/22517-bioware-livestream-q-a-coverage

 

xD I remember hearing this same thing about SWTOR back in 2007...So I'm not sure I will trust a devs oppinion, I'll wait for some player reviews from people who won't sugar coat it.

Originally posted by lucasdeis

Originally posted by superniceguy

Originally posted by lucasdeis

Originally posted by superniceguy

Originally posted by lucasdeis

Originally posted by superniceguy

Originally posted by Rayshe
Im a TSW fan, Big time. And if TSW can survive with the subs it has. so can SWTOR.

The difference is SWTOR needs 500K subs to break even. TSW does not, and has not yet gone F2P, meaning they are surviving nicely on their monthly fee

first i want to say i hate you, i saw you here in mmorpg forums of swtor trolling all the time, second SWTOR doesn't need 500k subs anymore. with the F2P shop  EA is getting money each minut, that means they can survive with less than 500k and get money from F2P shop

Here is an official statement straight from the horses mouth of EA on 1st Aug following the F2P announcement

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-19077238

The President of EA Labels Frank Gibeau said the Star Wars game would still break even so long as it maintained 500,000 subscribers, but admitted that its current performance was "not good enough".

 

Have you got a link to something after that to say they do not need 500K subs any more?

you are not aswering what we put. you don't know what you can do now? lol noob, we told you, F2P shop gets money each second

It still needs 500K subs, and if they are getting that, then game is good then, and their F2P plan worked

[mod edit]

Of course. 500K subs can be a combination of subs and whatever comes in the cash shop. So if they get 300K subs plus the cash shop gets the equivalent of 200k subs then all is good. They basically need $7.5 million per month.

Sorry, I did not make myself clear. I just lumped it all as 500K subs

Originally posted by Veldekar

"But it is far out in the future. You won't hear anything about it any time soon."

Translation: Never gonna happen

I read it the same way you did. Their statement is just marketing fluff to keep people hoping against hope. While "never" is never a good word to use (pun intended), I would guess that for the space revamp to get adequate budget to make it a reality, the game would need to hit or exceed sales projections.

Originally posted by vayman

Originally posted by Veldekar

"But it is far out in the future. You won't hear anything about it any time soon."

Translation: Never gonna happen

I read it the same way you did. Their statement is just marketing fluff to keep people hoping against hope. While "never" is never a good word to use (pun intended), I would guess that for the space revamp to get adequate budget to make it a reality, the game would need to hit or exceed sales projections.

Meh, its a bone for the fanbois.

They promised so many things up to now, its getting impossible to track everything.