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  Jonoku

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11/29/12 2:58:44 PM#61
My sig, for a while, LA killed their game=why WoW is winning.

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  daltanious

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11/30/12 5:20:02 AM#62
Originally posted by Quizzical

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But with MMORPG subscription numbers, the situation is far more volatile than you think, for one reason:  marketing.  WoW has surely spent more on marketing than any other MMORPG in the last decade, at least in the United States.....

I do not play wow because of marketing. Guess nobody does. I play it exclusively because it is fun, it is great. I know this, is not their marketing staff telling me this. Same for Swtor (up to month or so before release i was not even reading any articles, intense marketing was not getting close), Rift, GW2, .... Nobody PLAY for marketing. But for sure marketing IS important to let people now "hey, i'm here, you can do this and that". If nobody know some game was released, hardly there will be many that will play.

  Lienhart

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11/30/12 8:50:38 AM#63
Originally posted by daltanious
Originally posted by Quizzical

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But with MMORPG subscription numbers, the situation is far more volatile than you think, for one reason:  marketing.  WoW has surely spent more on marketing than any other MMORPG in the last decade, at least in the United States.....

I do not play wow because of marketing. Guess nobody does. I play it exclusively because it is fun, it is great. I know this, is not their marketing staff telling me this. Same for Swtor (up to month or so before release i was not even reading any articles, intense marketing was not getting close), Rift, GW2, .... Nobody PLAY for marketing. But for sure marketing IS important to let people now "hey, i'm here, you can do this and that". If nobody know some game was released, hardly there will be many that will play.

You just claimed marketing has no effect on you. Get out lol

Marketing affected you somehow, whether through your friends, your family or previous incarnations of Warcraft. Don't kid yourself.

  daltanious

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11/30/12 8:59:30 AM#64
Originally posted by Lienhart
Originally posted by daltanious
Originally posted by Quizzical

....

But with MMORPG subscription numbers, the situation is far more volatile than you think, for one reason:  marketing.  WoW has surely spent more on marketing than any other MMORPG in the last decade, at least in the United States.....

I do not play wow because of marketing. Guess nobody does. I play it exclusively because it is fun, it is great. I know this, is not their marketing staff telling me this. Same for Swtor (up to month or so before release i was not even reading any articles, intense marketing was not getting close), Rift, GW2, .... Nobody PLAY for marketing. But for sure marketing IS important to let people now "hey, i'm here, you can do this and that". If nobody know some game was released, hardly there will be many that will play.

You just claimed marketing has no effect on you. Get out lol

Marketing affected you somehow, whether through your friends, your family or previous incarnations of Warcraft. Don't kid yourself.

Sure you know better then myself what I think. Whatever makes you happy.

  Vunak23

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11/30/12 9:01:46 AM#65

I agree that we will see another game that becomes as successful if not more than WoW. But the genre has to evolve before that happens. The genre hasn't evolved since WoW, or argueably EverQuest. That was there success. 

So long as we keep getting games that are similar to WoW in mechanics and concept we won't see the next big thing. Its starting to progress a little, with things like PS2 and ArcheAge, WWZ etc. But it certainly is taking its time. 

"In the immediate future, we have this one, and then we’ve got another one that is actually going to be – so we’re going to have, what we want to do, is in January, what we’re targeting to do, this may or may not happen, so you can’t hold me to it. But what we’re targeting to do, is have a fun anniversary to the Ilum shenanigans that happened. An alien race might invade, and they might crash into Ilum and there might be some new activities that happen on the planet." ~Gabe Amatangelo

  botrytis

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11/30/12 9:11:08 AM#66
Originally posted by Vunak23

I agree that we will see another game that becomes as successful if not more than WoW. But the genre has to evolve before that happens. The genre hasn't evolved since WoW, or argueably EverQuest. That was there success. 

So long as we keep getting games that are similar to WoW in mechanics and concept we won't see the next big thing. Its starting to progress a little, with things like PS2 and ArcheAge, WWZ etc. But it certainly is taking its time. 

They have evolved but there has been no revolutional thought in the MMO area. I don't tink there will be bcause we are still limited by computing power - a big true would would take a huge computer and software to actually make the world believable (this is why scientific evolution models run on super-computers for weeks/months on end - too many calculations to do).

 

I think this is the limiting factor more than anything else.

 

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  Varthander

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11/30/12 9:13:03 AM#67
At last someone who stated the things like they are!!, another good comparison would be CocaCola, before that there was no drinks like that one but once that was released the "clones" came after, the people didnt cared if the others were tastier but still they preffered the "first one" because it came with innovation, such thing of course happens with everything and in time those "primarchs" will loose power eventually and will be just part of the history, but well there is always people that gets amazed easely and other who doesnt. My best tip will be, go with Your flow, support the things you like to, but NEVER idolatrate.

  dlld

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11/30/12 9:35:01 AM#68

I don't think there will be another "WoW"  in the sense that it managed to grab 50% of the market. It's unlikely there will be a new "king" that nobody can touch, it's completely irrelevant how many play or how much money is made because that is relativistic, in 20 years there might be a billion MMO gamers where getting 10 million is as easy as getting 100k today.

  Thorkune

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11/30/12 9:39:33 AM#69
Originally posted by SuperDonk

The Devs agree with you, that is why all AAA mmos that are being created are WoW-like themeparks.

 

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I feel that the ones trying to match WoW's success are just cranking out a product without trying to improve on it. I am one of those that believes that WoW will remain the all time king.

The reason I believe this is because in WoW's heyday there wasn't a lot of competition. Now, everyone is making mmo's and I think it will now be impossible to beat WoW.

 

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