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  superniceguy

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NGE, LOTRO, STO, KOTOR, Lego Star Wars > NGE 2 (SWTOR). SWG>ALL. Above hopefully subject to change.

11/27/12 12:25:35 PM#41
Originally posted by cronius77
Originally posted by superniceguy
Originally posted by Karahandras
Probably going to last as long as the contract.

As long as the Disney take over does not affact it in any way.

I wonder if Lucas wouls have sold to Disney if SWTOR became more successful than WOW? I doubt it.

lucus selling to disney has nothing at all due to how popular swtor is or will be , this is his legacy and if you read up on entertainment sites you will see that episode 7 8 and 9 were planned way before the sell even went final. Hell he met with Mark Hammell months before even talking to disney according to hammell. Bioware and EA license the IP rights to the game just like turbine does for LOTR online and while it might be a good chunk of change , its drops in a bucket compared to what lucas industrial lighting makes for movies and design. This Disney move was something he wanted to do to create his own legacy , games are not even in his mind i bet.

I actually read that he was not even going to do 7, 8 and 9 any more, and getting fed up of people bashing everything Star Wars.

I am sure if SWTOR did better than WOW, it would have perked his interest in Star Wars again, and even had a knock on effect for Star Wars as a whole, if SWTOR ended up being the talked about MMO instead of WOW, and being mentioned in virtually every TV show. WOW has been brought up in virtually every TV show, SWTOR did in a few, but doubt it will do now.

  mmoguy43

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11/27/12 12:37:01 PM#42
Another case of it ended before it started. It has been on the down hill and F2P hasn't brought up to the numbers they were initially expecting. It will run its course until EA recoups costs. I feel like an indy mmo with proper funding/management would have more longevity.

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  Searias

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11/27/12 2:03:24 PM#43
Wasn't Warhammer Online also a high budget mmo? The last time I checked that game is still going.

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  tiefighter25

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11/27/12 4:15:35 PM#44
Originally posted by Searias
Wasn't Warhammer Online also a high budget mmo? The last time I checked that game is still going.

Going is a relative term.

  Jonoku

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11/27/12 4:18:21 PM#45
Mentioning SWTOR at least once=incoming bashing the game, its just common nowadays.

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  Jonoku

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11/27/12 4:22:09 PM#46
Originally posted by mmoguy43
Another case of it ended before it started. It has been on the down hill and F2P hasn't brought up to the numbers they were initially expecting. It will run its course until EA recoups costs. I feel like an indy mmo with proper funding/management would have more longevity.

Things are back to normal= pre-F2P launch. Servers are settling down back to standard, F2P sure made a difference, its not gonna last long, Disney will just cut off lines with EAware.

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  Robokapp

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11/27/12 4:28:15 PM#47
Originally posted by Muke
Originally posted by bcbully
Well looking at Xfire f2p is helping swtor. It's about 4k hours behind GW2. 

weird, last time I checked Xfire only represented 2% of the gaming community.

a random 2%, making it a representative sample.

 

unless you can prove only a special niche uses xfire, and the sample isn't random, of course.

 

you know how you poll 1000 students and get an idea about campus life even if there's a few milion of students in college at any time? something like that.

 

if you sample 2% of a lake you probably have a decent idea of wha bacteria lives there.

  User Deleted
11/27/12 4:32:51 PM#48
Originally posted by bcbully
Well looking at Xfire f2p is helping swtor. It's about 4k hours behind GW2. 

 

Dude...are you TRYING to get this thread locked??? Never use the "X-word"...no no no no!!!

  Pyuk

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11/27/12 4:36:58 PM#49
If by "last" you mean limp along like a dehydrated mule stuck in the middle of a desert sustaining life by licking the moisture off morning dew covered cacti, then yes. Pretty much like Warhammer Online has "lasted."

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  eddieg50

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11/28/12 8:38:43 AM#50

This is the most talked about mmo on the internet, good or bad that creates publicity which creates new players and brings back old players. I think TOR did a good job giving players back the 4 bars, they need to get rid of the reduced xp which does not really affect progression badly BUT psychologically players think it does.   Now get working on a proper space game, keep adding story content (like they do in tsw), it is a story based game after all and they will be good to go.  This game will never attract the hard core or the sand box players, but there are enough people who care about story to keep it going.

      People who do not like the game will stay away (good) and continue to criticize on mmorpg (find an mmo you like and get a life) and the ones who do like the game will alternate between TOR and TSW

  superniceguy

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NGE, LOTRO, STO, KOTOR, Lego Star Wars > NGE 2 (SWTOR). SWG>ALL. Above hopefully subject to change.

11/28/12 9:49:33 AM#51
Originally posted by eddieg50

This is the most talked about mmo on the internet, good or bad that creates publicity which creates new players and brings back old players. I think TOR did a good job giving players back the 4 bars, they need to get rid of the reduced xp which does not really affect progression badly BUT psychologically players think it does.   Now get working on a proper space game, keep adding story content (like they do in tsw), it is a story based game after all and they will be good to go.  This game will never attract the hard core or the sand box players, but there are enough people who care about story to keep it going.

      People who do not like the game will stay away (good) and continue to criticize on mmorpg (find an mmo you like and get a life) and the ones who do like the game will alternate between TOR and TSW

Taliking instead of playing, because the game had so much going for it - Bioware, tonnes of money, plenty of time, but still not enough - Then it tanks hard, real hard, people just can not believe it.

It has had a spurt of attention due to F2P, but even these forums are not so active any more, and I am starting to lose interest now too. There is nothing left to get SWTOR attention again, they have already done F2P, and unless they make space more multiplayer which I doubt, then this is the beginning of the end for SWTOR.

There may be plenty of people who care about story, and I do too,  but there is not enough story to keep you hooked, as once you have completed the story then that is it. One miniscule snippet of content every 6 weeks is not going to cut it.  There are going to be many people who will end up staying away after a few months time, than before, and then nothing will be left to bring them back (again)

 

  gervaise1

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11/28/12 11:31:31 AM#52

Pretty certain that LoL / GW2 / LoL are talked about more, anyway:

Will it survive? On life support. EA don't own the IP but probably have an option to renew the agreement. Whether they will or not may come down to what it costs to do so. Until then the mantra will be to spend as little as possible. It will join UO, DAoC, WAR. some development now and then (UO more so - an IP EA owns0 but not much.

 

As far as XFire goes - as you would expect the f2P launch went up but not by much. It remains a fraction of what it was and is already falling back. The average hours per player is down as well - under 4. At launch it was above  8 and was around 5.5 when patches etc. came out in the summer before dropping back to c. 4.5. Doesn't suggest a lot of new players

Now hours played for a sub based game is not the key factor - but for F2P this does't bode well. It's possible I suppose that people with a sub are only playing an hour a day and there are new players burning the midnight oil ... but not likely. If (huge caveat of course) XFire is any guide at all then it doesn't look good.

And looked at another way: in the summer EA "adjusted" the servers to provide a "good playing experience" for everyone (reduced the number, introduced mega servers - whatever). The game is now F2P and ... the influx is being handled by the same server capacity. There are - currently - more players but if Zynga metrics hold good then only c. 5% of people pay anything on average (it should be higher initially due to possible one off purchases e.g. preferred status but going forward you need many, many more people than you do subscribers. And yet the servers are coping.

 

Hence long term: life support until the plug is pulled.

  Rayshe

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11/28/12 11:37:55 AM#53
If they fix the F2P option i can see the game surviving. Sorry but their F2P option is one of the worst i have seen. Sorry Bioware i will not pay a subscription so that i can get rewards from quests. Limiting access to raids and dungeons, fine, Banning access to Dungeons Dumb. Its like the game is saying We have these amazing things, but your not allowed to see how amazing they are. F2P Freemium should allways be seen as a  sales pitch. When going F2P you need to convince people your game is worth paying for. Salesmen dont get many sales when their method of selling is "if you buy this product ill stop pokeing you in the eye"

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  daltanious

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11/29/12 1:49:26 PM#54
Originally posted by Prenho
I lost my interest in this game after 1 week of gaming. I went thinking about playing a MMO, not a single payer game with multiplayer chores after finishing the campaign. I play Call of Duty instead, much better campaign and a much better multiplayer.

I have not lost interest in SWTOR not even after 7 months of continuous gameplay, leveled in this time with great joy all class stories (meaning 8 in total, 4 for every faction). Sooner or later will return for remaning 8 to have all possible combinations as I have in wow. For now I'm happy with MOP, then guess Rift or GW2, ....

  Rydeson

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11/29/12 7:06:19 PM#55
I lost total interest in this game.. End game is a wow clone joke.. and PvP is just instance piss fights with no purpose..  I'd rather spend my time watching Clone Wars on Cartoon Network.. lol
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