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  Zeus.CM

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11/26/12 6:29:39 PM#21
Originally posted by Calerxes
Originally posted by Zeus.CM

People are mostly concerned about ascended gear. As I am. To get full exotic gear I was required to get around 30-40g (gear + accessories). It was obtainable within a week of farming gold/materials. And now they introduced ascended back slot and rings. My experience: I had to grind 40g just to get back slot. ALso, it's been 6 days since I've been doing level 10 fractals and still not a single ring dropped.

Ascended brought what we feared the most in GW2 - the grind. I really hope they reduce the amount of materials or make better ring drop because as it is now, it's a bad grind.

 

Why are you grinding Ascended gear? what do you need it for? can you play other parts of the game effectively without Ascended gear? 

Without it I cannot play fractals beyond level 12 or so. Arenanet stated they will be adding more content to fractals, more dungeons. So, If I want to do it on higher levels I am required to make ascended gear... I'm a type of a person that want to be 100% efficient and when it comes to mmos that means to have max gear. I play GW2 because achieving that was not as time consuming as in other mmos. By playing 2 hours a day I could have max gear within 2 weeks or so. This will not be the case anymore, unless they improve the way to get it. The most concerning thing is that ascended gear introduced gear requirement to enter a group doing a certain level of a dungeon.

  nationalcity

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11/26/12 6:36:11 PM#22

lol, so much for GW2 not having a gear grind next time I hear one person say how GW2 is so different because it doesn't have a gear treadmill I'm going to point them directly to this AMA............

 

You mark my words by the time full ascended is in your not gonna be able to do anything without a full set....

 

It's going to just as elitist as every other MMO out there.......

  PaRoXiTiC

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11/26/12 6:37:42 PM#23

The crying will never stop. This is exactly how an MMO should be. Gear released throughought an entire year and you taking some play days to farm/grind for the gear. Its not like your grinding your life away.

People please go back to your consoles. We are so sick of hearing you cry about how it takes to long to get items in an MMO. Please, again, go away. Go play something else if you have a problem with it.

  Zeus.CM

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11/26/12 6:39:41 PM#24
Originally posted by nationalcity

lol, so much for GW2 not having a gear grind next time I hear one person say how GW2 is so different because it doesn't have a gear treadmill I'm going to point them directly to this AMA............

 

You mark my words by the time full ascended is in your not gonna be able to do anything without a full set....

 

It's going to just as elitist as every other MMO out there.......

Luckily, this 'gear threadmill' is limited to one dungeon which is <1% of content. In the AMA they said they understand that it feels like a grind to get it atm, so they will rebalance it and introduce more ways to get it. We shall see. It's still not as bad as other mmos.

  Zeus.CM

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11/26/12 6:42:19 PM#25
Originally posted by PaRoXiTiC

The crying will never stop. This is exactly how an MMO should be. Gear released throughought an entire year and you taking some play days to farm/grind for the gear. Its not like your grinding your life away.

People please go back to your consoles. We are so sick of hearing you cry about how it takes to long to get items in an MMO. Please, again, go away. Go play something else if you have a problem with it.

The problem is that they destroyed their manifesto with this patch and raised concern among their loyal GW1 playerbase (which is a major percentage, including me), that's why so many questions are about that gear.

  HorrorScope

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11/26/12 6:49:31 PM#26
Originally posted by PaRoXiTiC

The crying will never stop. This is exactly how an MMO should be. Gear released throughought an entire year and you taking some play days to farm/grind for the gear. Its not like your grinding your life away.

People please go back to your consoles. We are so sick of hearing you cry about how it takes to long to get items in an MMO. Please, again, go away. Go play something else if you have a problem with it.

We can since it's no different.

Imo their game can't compete on a dungeon level with the best dungeon/instance based mmo's.

This was the games signature (horizontal) that and open world de's. In a couple months now they have gear progression and almost all level 80's for PvE are running a dungeon. This is in line with the likes of Failcom, no joke. No one, but no one would have thought this was possible at release and anything suggesting it would have been called the biggest troll ever at mmorpg.

 

  RizelStar

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11/26/12 6:56:43 PM#27
Originally posted by Xiaoki

Really should have kept his mouth shut, these comments are not going to help the situation at all.


Biggest mistake was saying "we have never said there would be no vertical progression".


Then he says they intend to focus on horizontal progression but will have vertical progression. Slowly rolling out a tier over the course a year then introducing another higher tier doesnt count.


But he also insists that they design the game with everything having little to no grind. How can anyone lie that badly with a straight face? Its so laughably bad you cant get angry at it.

Wow so damn if he doesn't say shit and I'm guessing damn if does, WTF lol

I might get banned for this. - Rizel Star.

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  RizelStar

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11/26/12 7:00:15 PM#28
Originally posted by nationalcity

lol, so much for GW2 not having a gear grind next time I hear one person say how GW2 is so different because it doesn't have a gear treadmill I'm going to point them directly to this AMA............

 

You mark my words by the time full ascended is in your not gonna be able to do anything without a full set....

 

It's going to just as elitist as every other MMO out there.......

What's sad is you are almost helping those people out if you read the answers.

 

Sorry for double post :/

I might get banned for this. - Rizel Star.

I'm not afraid to tell trolls what they [need] to hear, even if that means for me to have an forced absence afterwards.

P2P LOGIC = If it's P2P it means longevity, overall better game, and THE BEST SUPPORT EVER!!!!!(Which has been rinsed and repeated about a thousand times)

Common Sense Logic = P2P logic is no better than F2P Logic.

  Zeus.CM

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11/26/12 7:07:51 PM#29

E6:Fractals have become the end-all for making your character stronger. Players are vanishing from maps everywhere to grind grind grind for the now-strongest items they can get ahold of. It's disruptive to the community, the fun, and the manifesto. What is being done about this?

This ties back to what i was saying earlier in which Ascended Gear and really any progression related reward mechanism that impacts the world globally should be introduced (Where possible) across the game and inside the different type of player's activities specifically. Allowing players to continue doing the things they love without focusing player migration to a specific part of the world. The introduction of the Ascended reward in one part of the game was a mistake and one that i don't want to make again.

Soon Ascended Gear will adhere to these rules.

Chris

 
Arenanet admited to have made mistake by introducing new tier to be obtainable in a single dungeon of the game. That is good, and we can be sure they will fix that and introduce new ways of getting this tier of gear-.
 
...

Players in WvW will be able to acquire Ascended items within that area of the game soon.

Chris

 
  RizelStar

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11/26/12 7:11:11 PM#30
Originally posted by Zeus.CM

E6:Fractals have become the end-all for making your character stronger. Players are vanishing from maps everywhere to grind grind grind for the now-strongest items they can get ahold of. It's disruptive to the community, the fun, and the manifesto. What is being done about this?

This ties back to what i was saying earlier in which Ascended Gear and really any progression related reward mechanism that impacts the world globally should be introduced (Where possible) across the game and inside the different type of player's activities specifically. Allowing players to continue doing the things they love without focusing player migration to a specific part of the world. The introduction of the Ascended reward in one part of the game was a mistake and one that i don't want to make again.

Soon Ascended Gear will adhere to these rules.

Chris

 
Arenanet admited to have made mistake by introducing new tier to be obtainable in a single dungeon of the game. That is good, and we can be sure they will fix that and introduce new ways of getting this tier of gear-.
 
...

Players in WvW will be able to acquire Ascended items within that area of the game soon.

Chris

 

Yea that was actually said awhile back as well, I believe I noted that sometime today.

I might get banned for this. - Rizel Star.

I'm not afraid to tell trolls what they [need] to hear, even if that means for me to have an forced absence afterwards.

P2P LOGIC = If it's P2P it means longevity, overall better game, and THE BEST SUPPORT EVER!!!!!(Which has been rinsed and repeated about a thousand times)

Common Sense Logic = P2P logic is no better than F2P Logic.

  Maephisto

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11/26/12 7:50:03 PM#31

Hopefully this puts a lot of fears to rest.  His answers seemed legit and were well thought out.  There will be, however, some people who want to see the worst in everything and still bitch and moan.

As for his reluctance to answer some questions without further clarification.........can you blame him?  The outspoken minority is not known for taking "partial information" correctly.  That is why you never get any solid info on new content/updates until it's ready to deploy.   Kinda shot our own foot on that one.

  romanator0

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11/26/12 8:07:49 PM#32
I really hope people didn't expect there to be no vertical progression at all eventually introduced into GW2. It was confirmed before the game's launch that ArenaNet would be raising the level cap with expansions.

  KhinRunite

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11/26/12 8:15:03 PM#33
It's true that had they released Ascended items at launch, there would be no drama. They overestimated the MMO gamer's patience and understanding.
  Homitu

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11/26/12 8:19:27 PM#34
Originally posted by fiontar

So far, very disappointed with the AMA. there are many good questions there, even after weeding out all the chaff, but in three hours very few answers. It almost seems as if every answer needs approval from the higher ups and maybe has to be parsed by a lawyer before they can answer a question.

I really hope they answer the questions assembled on "that unofficial GW2 fan site". A lot of good questions, most of which have nothing to do with Ascended gear and most of which I'd really like to see an answer for.

Oh he's definitely consulting with other developers from various departments for most of the responses.  Either that or he's really mulling over how he wants to word them.  

That said, I think his answers have been solid enough thus far and he has promised to continue responding late into the night, even after he gets home.  

  Gursten

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11/26/12 8:23:07 PM#35
Originally posted by HorrorScope
Originally posted by PaRoXiTiC

The crying will never stop. This is exactly how an MMO should be. Gear released throughought an entire year and you taking some play days to farm/grind for the gear. Its not like your grinding your life away.

People please go back to your consoles. We are so sick of hearing you cry about how it takes to long to get items in an MMO. Please, again, go away. Go play something else if you have a problem with it.

We can since it's no different.

Imo their game can't compete on a dungeon level with the best dungeon/instance based mmo's.

This was the games signature (horizontal) that and open world de's. In a couple months now they have gear progression and almost all level 80's for PvE are running a dungeon. This is in line with the likes of Failcom, no joke. No one, but no one would have thought this was possible at release and anything suggesting it would have been called the biggest troll ever at mmorpg.

 

They're gonna make it - they need more time. Competition is good for us customers, but it's harsh for any gaming company Nonetheless it gives them ideas. RIFT did good releasing their expansion. They added level scaling system to their game.

ANET is trying hard to give us the game we want or they think we want. Ppl complained about the lack of high level content, they've added some and now others(hopefully not the same ppl!!) complain about the grind that comes with it. So yeah it's a lil harder than expected, for us players and for them devs. For me it's still the best mmo game I've played since UO DAOC SWG and L2. Not that I didnt love LOTRO or SWTOR.

Keep going ANet, I want some more GW2 new stuff.

Complaining about things that go wrong is good too as it make the devs work harder and we get the best for our money.

  killion81

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11/26/12 8:31:50 PM#36
I give them credit for openly admitting they made mistakes.  A LOT of people read that response and most people don't like saying "I was wrong".
  Nailzzz

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11/26/12 8:44:13 PM#37

     Here is one of the bigger problems i see with arenanet going foward (aside from completetly destroyed credibility). Adding constant power creep to a sub game is a good way to keep people playing and paying you the $15 a month. The more money people play and the longer they play, they more likely they will keep playing and you dont have to worry so much about losing your cash flow, unless you really screw things up with an update. Attracting new players is secondary overall to them since they still have cash flow.

     Now the Buy 2 Play model means that in order to continue making your game profittable, you need to make it accessible for players looking for a new game. If a potential new player looks into your game and sees that it wont take forever to reach a comparable power lvl to the vets, they may give it a go. If they see that it will possibly take them months or years if ever to reach the point where they can be on the same footing as the vets, they wont bother.

     As it stands now, sure the grind is nothing especially compared to alot of other mmo's. But give them a couple years. at the rate they release content it will get out of hand quickly if this last patch is any indication.

     Unless they make the cash shop the primary form of funds for the game (and do you REALLY want that?), vertical progression and grinding end game or rng will actually kill this games profitability.

     Oh well, at the very least it confirms to me that i will not be investing any more money on this franchise. Such a shame.

  Silentstorm

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11/26/12 9:23:58 PM#38

What you got here is people who are horizontal basically not wanting to share the game. Kinda selfish and childish especially considering the vertical and hardcore/pvp outnumber you greatly. I said in a different post I like a game that isn't one dimensional where you have the {option} to do whatever you like. Alot of people say vanilla wow was like that to a extent it's also been labeled as the best mmorpg during that time. So I won't knock a company trying to do something like that.

 

Problem is you have people who are lazy and selfish who would exactly do just that knock the company. Want it all for themselves and screw the rest of the population of the game. That's fail and if you really want to act that way just quit the game you will be replaced with someone less selfish in mentality. If they want to make a game that suits everybody let them maybe they can pull it off. But don't play god all seeing and down the people for trying to make everyone happy.

 

Reason I'm singling out the Horizontal gamers is because vertical fan base didn't cry this hard. They did cry and bitch but not to the extent the horizontal gamers are. Also you don't see any major publication complaining now that GW2 put vertical content in. They actually have gotten praise for doing it. But before this every pc magazine from NYC to China bashed them. This very site was hard on them for lack of end game. They responded and save the army of carebears crying the media has not attacked them. You tubers haven't I would know I'm cool with and subbed to majority of them. 

 

Most you tubers were mad more about plinx than ascended gear lol...........

  Silentstorm

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11/26/12 9:32:33 PM#39
Originally posted by romanator0
I really hope people didn't expect there to be no vertical progression at all eventually introduced into GW2. It was confirmed before the game's launch that ArenaNet would be raising the level cap with expansions.

Also something alot of people failed to read lol................But that is on the mainpage too.

  Torvaldr

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11/26/12 10:11:18 PM#40
Originally posted by nationalcity

lol, so much for GW2 not having a gear grind next time I hear one person say how GW2 is so different because it doesn't have a gear treadmill I'm going to point them directly to this AMA............

You mark my words by the time full ascended is in your not gonna be able to do anything without a full set....

It's going to just as elitist as every other MMO out there.......

Oh look, someone else who doesn't understand the difference between progression and a gear treadmill.  You've either never played WoW, EQ2, or RIFT (among many others) or you've never played GW2, or you've played both but just don't get it.  Which one is it?

I think a mind wipe so people could play an mmo like it was their first time again, would be easier to build than a new mmo people here would actually like. - DamonVile

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