Don't care....next!

The quality of this forum has degraded since I last was here.

I wish they would stop giving people like you refunds. It's ludicrous, and I can't fathom why they are doing it. It's incredibly unethical to ask for a refund of a game you already put hundreds of hours into. That's more than worth the $60 you originally paid. THAT is way more dishonest than any overblown bait and switch concerns about "the game has changed!!" Ridiculous.

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entire letter can be boiled down to WoW  totally coloring your expectations for an MMO.    In effect, you became the most vile and lowly of mmorpgers... the loot treadmill, instant gratification [mod edit]

honestly.  no game...  ever ... is polished right out of the gate.   GW is never about gear.  if anything it's main claim has been costume/aesthetics progression as endgame.  

and it's beyond silly to get a refund on a game that's Buy2play.  i mean, you already spent the money, you can play, give it up... come back later.  give it a second thought,  sell the acct.  whatever.   

but ultimately,  i'm a firm believer in...if you're not happy don't play.   but the complaint was pretty petty.  and odd that they actually refunding the money.  

Originally posted by austriacus

Originally posted by ForumPvP

Originally posted by Fearum

Well you got about 350-420 hours for free then, good job. Your not paying a sub and they are making tons off the cash shop. You will not be missed.

Are you the type of guy that complains about food after you eat it to try and get a free meal?

 That  chicken meal you have been eating 3 months now is actually made of cat meat and dog liver.

Curry does miracles.

  I would complain,no matter how good the taste is.

 

Horrible analogy. What he was getting for 3 months was EXACTLY what he wanted and it changed.

People need to go in a MMO with the knowledge that they are gona change at some point and just accept it or stop  playing. But asking for a refund for 400 hours of exactly advertised gameplay? Disgusting.

That company cant pull those kind of changes in one day,they have been developing those most likely for year at least,but they have been marketing different product,they didnt tell to their customers  that these changes are going to happen.

Anet knew this precisely but their customers didnt have a clue.

They sold them lies and these people did not get what they excatly wanted,not even close.

Edit: If that guy was planning to play 10,000 hours,he wasted 400,depends how you look at it.

Originally posted by ForumPvP

Originally posted by austriacus

Originally posted by ForumPvP

Originally posted by Fearum

Well you got about 350-420 hours for free then, good job. Your not paying a sub and they are making tons off the cash shop. You will not be missed.

Are you the type of guy that complains about food after you eat it to try and get a free meal?

 That  chicken meal you have been eating 3 months now is actually made of cat meat and dog liver.

Curry does miracles.

  I would complain,no matter how good the taste is.

 

Horrible analogy. What he was getting for 3 months was EXACTLY what he wanted and it changed.

People need to go in a MMO with the knowledge that they are gona change at some point and just accept it or stop  playing. But asking for a refund for 400 hours of exactly advertised gameplay? Disgusting.

That company cant pull those kind of changes in one day,they have been developing those most likely for year at least,but they have been marketing different product,they didnt tell to their customers  that these changes are going to happen.

Anet knew this precisely but their customers didnt have a clue.

They sold them lies and these people did not get what they excatly wanted,not even close.

 

 

 He played exactly as it was presented for hundreds of hours. 

Originally posted by ForumPvP

Originally posted by austriacus

Originally posted by ForumPvP

Originally posted by Fearum

Well you got about 350-420 hours for free then, good job. Your not paying a sub and they are making tons off the cash shop. You will not be missed.

Are you the type of guy that complains about food after you eat it to try and get a free meal?

 That  chicken meal you have been eating 3 months now is actually made of cat meat and dog liver.

Curry does miracles.

  I would complain,no matter how good the taste is.

 

Horrible analogy. What he was getting for 3 months was EXACTLY what he wanted and it changed.

People need to go in a MMO with the knowledge that they are gona change at some point and just accept it or stop  playing. But asking for a refund for 400 hours of exactly advertised gameplay? Disgusting.

That company cant pull those kind of changes in one day,they have been developing those most likely for year at least,but they have been marketing different product,they didnt tell to their customers  that these changes are going to happen.

Anet knew this precisely but their customers didnt have a clue.

They sold them lies and these people did not get what they excatly wanted,not even close.

 

 

Not really, Many people, on this site, have stated that the reason they don't like the game was it is not like GW1. A.Net never said it was going to be like GW1. Actually, if you really objectively (and I mean that - with no hate and fanboi filters on) read what A.Net said about GW2 and what they wanted in the game, yes they did leave out some things (they admitted that) but in general it is pretty close to what they said they would bring to the table. I am not reading anything into it other than what they exactly said. It is easy to take everything out of context or judge indescriminantly.

If the customers didn't have a clue, blame the customers not the company. That is why it is called doing research.

Now I will say there are parts of the game I think could have been done better. I also think some parts should be dropped. Overall, I do like the game and since it is B2P, I can come and go as I please. Nothing wrong with that.

And I think it's hilarious Anet is giving refunds for people who have prob played days and days worth of game time lol.

  As much as i hate Arena.net's new attitude toward the game, asking them for a refund would make me no different than them. I got around 700 hours of gameplay, all of dungeons completed, around of 80% of map explored and i was about to buy cultural armor (which i may do at some point when i wont have anything smarter to do than play GW2). Was a good deal for price from the Video Game product perspective.

  Hell, i may even return one day when they decide to go back to their roots (unless they shut down servers, which again is hard to happen anytime soon).

After leveling to max and playing for a couple of weeks, GW2 turned out not to be the game for me. I would never even think of asking for a refund because it didn't completely live up to my expectations. I haven't found a game that does.

I suppose you could make a case that they didn't deliver what you thought you paid for, but as a fellow player I think they pretty much delivered exactly what they said they would. I think if anything this thread illustrates what a great company Anet is for giving refunds and ffs....... I wish people wouldn't abuse this. If these generous refund policies are abused then they will go away and won't be there when people really need them.

Originally posted by Ryowulf

Hey OP once you are finished playing Starcraft2, Serious Sam 3, and Borderlands 2 are you going to ask them for a refund too?

Anet was really nice for giving you your money back, but I have to wonder what type of person plays a game for a good many hours as you did apparently and then asks for a refund.

If it was after playing a few minutes or even a few hours, that's one thing.  However you seem to think an mmo needs to keep you entertained for forever and when it stops being fun you get your money back.

Don't you think there should be some cost for the time you did play?

Do you buy a new car drive it until you got 50k miles on it then ask for your money back?

Do you go out to eat and then a week later go back and asks for a refund?

Totally agree!

Originally posted by AlBQuirky

 

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Originally posted by VendettaDFA

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Originally posted by loeslein
I think GW2 is a mediorce game but next time just say "Your economy sucks and I don't like gear progression." and leave it at that. They'll get the point a lot better.

 

And I think it's hilarious Anet is giving refunds for people who have prob played days and days worth of game time lol.

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I pre-purchased for the head start as a loyal GW1 fan would have done and averaged 5-7 hours daily. I think that is more than adequate to make an informed decision on this game. I think you tldr'd the post but as said you are entitled to your opinion as I am to mine.

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What a load of crap! You are a thief. I hope you sleep well at night. Do you butcher the cow you received instead of the horse, throw a feast, and then ask for a refund? You make me sick.

 

I wouldn't go that far. I'd say it's more a case that the prepurchase angle created such a stink that they offered refunds as they were so confident in their own product they thought noone would take them up on it...

Really if you have a system like this someone will exploit it...

Why is everyone getting so buttmad over this? Sure the guy got a couple hundred hours free of entertainment. But it was within his rights under warranty to ask for a refund. 

Anet allowed for this when writing their policy. 

So funny when people share angry letters they wrote to a company on a forum.

"I know the people who I wrote this giant letter too are not going to give me anything more than a generaic "we are sorry you hate our game" reply So instead I'll post it on the MMORPG.com forums where I'm sure it will create plenty of e-drama."

WellI hope you got enough attention over your letter, but most people don't care if you are going to stop playing a game, just man up and do it without the melodrama...simple.

Originally posted by aWRAY

Why is everyone getting so buttmad over this? Sure the guy got a couple hundred hours free of entertainment. But it was within his rights under warranty to ask for a refund. 

Anet allowed for this when writing their policy. 

I think because they like the changes and every refund shrinks the subs they can claim and creates a situation where they will most likely not ever come back.

Also I played the game for hundreds of hours to and the betas, but nothing in all of that time and the Dev journals said anything about adding gear grinding windows. The PVP was slowly degrading and becoming more spammy and less interesting, they had plenty of time to make meaningful changes to sPVP and WvWvW and they said they wanted GW2 to be an Esport, instead  they to a complete turn around, abandon pvp and go gear progression, I got my refund to and don't feel the least bit bad about it.