Hmm...uou can't really hate the guy when ANet allows this shit.  They never should have allowed refunds, other than for possibly prehistoric computers that established they couldn't run the game.  Even then, It's on the consumer to know whether they can run it.

That being said, it's fairly dishonorable to play a game for a decent time and then decide you want a refund.  Kind of low. 

As a long time GW1 player (since launch day) all I can say is I'm still loving GW2 and having a great time.  Different strokes I guess.

So you enjoy that refund because I couldn't care less if you stay in the game.  I can't really respect it or your opinion.  The refund thing is sort of like account selling to me.  I find it and those who practice it distasteful.

Originally posted by bliss14

Hmm...uou can't really hate the guy when ANet allows this shit.  They never should have allowed refunds, other than for possibly prehistoric computers that established they couldn't run the game.  Even then, It's on the consumer to know whether they can run it.

That being said, it's fairly dishonorable to play a game for a decent time and then decide you want a refund.  Kind of low. 

This site seems to attract this sort of posts. He is a dishonorable person having played the game and then demanding a refund. I suppose he is the type that would eat a Big Mac and then go back with the empty wrapper and demand  a refund because it was not cooked right.

That does the beg the question - Have (we) as gamers got to be coddled and primped so much? It seems like (we) do and the OP's post is just one small bit of evidence of it.

Originally posted by Dibdabs

Originally posted by VendettaDFA

The following is verbatum from my email with ANET:

Hi

Your refund has shown on my online billing activity and I thank you for your prompt service.

I read that far and was already bored.

I was about to comment on your elaborate and thorough reply. Then i checked your post history and i didn't bother. Fanboyism at its finest.

As for the OP: i understand your concerns about some of Anet's decisions regarding GW2. But i don't believe that these can spoil the overall quality of the game which is way above average. Maybe after a break you'll approach the game with a different view.

Originally posted by atuerstar

After hundreds of hours played you demanded a refund?

 

In all honesty - i am deeply disgusted at your attitude.

seconded

Originally posted by atuerstar

After hundreds of hours played you demanded a refund?

In all honesty - i am deeply disgusted at your attitude.

Feel the same way tbh. Especially when OP gives reccomendations for what he'd like to see in order to play the game again, but then takes away the funding to do it.

If you get any reasonable amount of hours into a game and ask for a refund for anything other than a technical problem, you should get flat out denied. A couple hundred hours in and you should get laughed at. You basically mooched there game.

Validly raised point on why I would ask for a refund after many hours of play?

 I would have never requested a refund if the game had remained "as advertised". My refund request came within one week of the lost shores update. That was when ANET introduced a vertical gear grind and was no longer the game I bought. Regardless of my other complaints on the game, this reason alone was why I proceeded with a refund request. If ANET's return policy allows a refund for up to 6 months on this game when directly purchased from their site , I am within my warranty rights to request and receive a refund.

Originally posted by VendettaDFA

Validly raised point on why I would ask for a refund after many hours of play?

 I would have never requested a refund if the game had remained "as advertised". My refund request came within one week of the lost shores update. That was when ANET introduced a vertical gear grind and was no longer the game I bought. Regardless of my other complaints on the game, this reason alone was why I proceeded with a refund request. If ANET's return policy allows a refund for up to 6 months on this game when directly purchased from their site , I am within my warranty rights to request and receive a refund.

But like I said in my post earlier does the verticle gear grind even matter?

Allow me to quote myself...

"I don't see why people are up in arms about this gear progression thing because gear feels so USELESS anyways. I know the numbers mean something but everything from levels to stats just feel like they are not even needed.

Just get rid of the whole system and put a 5 second count down timer in place of the Health pool. If you don't have the mobs down by 5 seconds then you can use your health buff and get another 1.5 seconds. Get rid of all stats and just have costumes yay! This is what the system "feels" like."

I mean, there's gear progression from 1-80, who cares if they add another 8 tiers of equipment.  It always seems to be a wash in the end.  It's not like you're playing Dark Souls where every point you can scrape is going to help you along the way.   Another 1000 health does't mean crap when the game revolves around zerg spamming cooldowns that stun an enemy for 1.5 seconds.

Originally posted by VendettaDFA

Validly raised point on why I would ask for a refund after many hours of play?

 I would have never requested a refund if the game had remained "as advertised". My refund request came within one week of the lost shores update. That was when ANET introduced a vertical gear grind and was no longer the game I bought. Regardless of my other complaints on the game, this reason alone was why I proceeded with a refund request. If ANET's return policy allows a refund for up to 6 months on this game when directly purchased from their site , I am within my warranty rights to request and receive a refund.

So WoW has done a 180 on it's mechanics, we should all go and get refunds? No, that is not how things work in an honest society.

Sorry if you don't see it, but you are not being honest.

I didn't ask for a refund when I left, even I think it was a little vengeful when I did get to play long enough to get my money out of it for the box price, I played a lot. I didn't spend any cash shop money though, had I done that then I think I would have been more enraged, especially if I had spent the money to get exotics that are now going to be outdated when they were king. People only had legendaries for looks, Eventually legendaries are set to be "best in slot" just because of the introduction of Ascended so all the people that thought exotics were the end were flimflammed.

While I didn't do it, I think others that do it send a message out that people won't stand for it.

Imagine if every new game pulled this, said we don't want grind etc. then talked you into buying the box just to change their mind day 60, we saw it on GW2 at around day 90, nothing is stopping sheisters from doing it at day 60 if they want or even day 31 just to invalidate store receipts. That's what getting a refund shows them, that they can't advertise one thing and deliver another. Some people this round were willing to take them to the bank if they did such a thing. That needs to be a lesson to companies or else all games will claim anything and we will all get hornswaggled.

While you are remarking on the ethics of what refund people are doing, think of how they protect future releases and claims  before you crucify them is my outlook.

Unless you want to be the person in a year on here talking about how the game that was supposed to be all about vampire undead is now pink leprechans and rainbow ponies instead. If you are cool with them selling you a piece of paper in a box too, that could happen. Someone did it on ebay http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hOzVls6spI8

Originally posted by VendettaDFA

Validly raised point on why I would ask for a refund after many hours of play?

 I would have never requested a refund if the game had remained "as advertised". My refund request came within one week of the lost shores update. That was when ANET introduced a vertical gear grind and was no longer the game I bought. Regardless of my other complaints on the game, this reason alone was why I proceeded with a refund request. If ANET's return policy allows a refund for up to 6 months on this game when directly purchased from their site , I am within my warranty rights to request and receive a refund.

Doesn't make a difference.  You still played the game for hundreds of hours.  You knew what it was like after a few hours, definately after dozens hours, more than enough after 100 hours and yet you continued to play.  I don't kow anything about court systems but occasionally have been required to attend courts for various reports and have seen some small claims courts for refunds and the judge stated that because you knew what it was about and you used it for a significant period of time knowing what the game was like there is no reasonable reason for a refund.

I would have said no.

I dont believe a word your saying!

But gold sellers own the game indeed big mistake by arenanet.

WvWvW 7DAYS TRANSFER is destroying whole PvPaspect of the game its huge problem.

Lost Shore and new armor stats +2 is indeed rediculous but i still play becouse i dont care about that the game is WAY TO GOOD for 60 bucks only that i rather keep playing this GREAT game that ask for refund or just stop playing. Crafting and tradehouse sucks but i still enjoy crafting.

On the other hand i dont spent one one penny in gemshop becouse of the many mistakes arenanet makes thats how i show them there mistakes.

Originally posted by VendettaDFA

<> The open world environment was stellar. <>

I'll stick a fork in it...I thought I was clear on the term but now I don't know what's being referred to as open world any longer these days...

I think I can look at the whole refund thing from both sides.

• You got many hours of enjoyment out if it so the refund isn't justifiable, versus
• it's supposed to be an MMORPG and should provide you with an x amount of hours/months/years of entertainment...if it fails to live up to your given x then the refund is justified.

Originally posted by Draron

Originally posted by atuerstar

After hundreds of hours played you demanded a refund?

In all honesty - i am deeply disgusted at your attitude.

Feel the same way tbh. Especially when OP gives reccomendations for what he'd like to see in order to play the game again, but then takes away the funding to do it.

If you get any reasonable amount of hours into a game and ask for a refund for anything other than a technical problem, you should get flat out denied. A couple hundred hours in and you should get laughed at. You basically mooched there game.

Yep, +1..

It's like going to the store, buying a vacuum cleaner, you vacuum your house and you go back to the store and say - "I don't like it because it vacuums, I want a refund".

As for the highlighted part...

When you request a refund, they usually ban your credit card and your info is on the black list so you most likely won't be able to purchase the game again... Unless someone buys it for you?

Originally posted by ForumPvP

Originally posted by Fearum

Well you got about 350-420 hours for free then, good job. Your not paying a sub and they are making tons off the cash shop. You will not be missed.

Are you the type of guy that complains about food after you eat it to try and get a free meal?

 

That  chicken meal you have been eating 3 months now is actually made of cat meat and dog liver.

Curry does miracles.

 

 I would complain,no matter how good the taste is.

 

 

Horrible analogy. What he was getting for 3 months was EXACTLY what he wanted and it changed.

People need to go in a MMO with the knowledge that they are gona change at some point and just accept it or stop  playing. But asking for a refund for 400 hours of exactly advertised gameplay? Disgusting.

Hey OP once you are finished playing Starcraft2, Serious Sam 3, and Borderlands 2 are you going to ask them for a refund too?

Anet was really nice for giving you your money back, but I have to wonder what type of person plays a game for a good many hours as you did apparently and then asks for a refund.

If it was after playing a few minutes or even a few hours, that's one thing.  However you seem to think an mmo needs to keep you entertained for forever and when it stops being fun you get your money back.

Don't you think there should be some cost for the time you did play?

Do you buy a new car drive it until you got 50k miles on it then ask for your money back?

Do you go out to eat and then a week later go back and asks for a refund?

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Originally posted by VendettaDFA
Validly raised point on why I would ask for a refund after many hours of play?

 I would have never requested a refund if the game had remained "as advertised". My refund request came within one week of the lost shores update. That was when ANET introduced a vertical gear grind and was no longer the game I bought. Regardless of my other complaints on the game, this reason alone was why I proceeded with a refund request. If ANET's return policy allows a refund for up to 6 months on this game when directly purchased from their site , I am within my warranty rights to request and receive a refund.

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Originally posted by StoneRoses


I lol at consumers like you! Anything and everything to milk a penny.

I can't wait for work where I get to talk to folks like you where customers feel entitled to free service rather than being a paying customer.

Freeloaders and cheap skates!

But its ok for a company to nickle and dime the consumer? Promise things they cant and dont deliver? Its ok for them to gouge prices on the consumer?

I laugh at people that take it with a smile and expect thats how business is done. Seriously if a company doesnt live up to what they claim, then they should refund the consumer. SWTOR was a laughing stock and no refunds. So for me anything with Bioware or EA on it, I wont buy in the future unless they make drastic changes.

I'm sure noone read that email.  At least not the whole thing.  Talk about overkill. 

Either way, I'm also double shocked.  Shocked at the nerve of someone asking for a refund fter playing the game for so long and the fact that they are actualyl giving one.  I've played so many mmo's to end game.  Most of which I realized were not fun but I got my money worth playing the game.  Just like buying a game in a store.

Odd people man.  I guess I owe some respect to Anet for at least trying to keep their paying customers happy.   Despite asknig for a refund in that situation being silly.