If your into hardcore gear treadmill then wow.

If you're into small treadmill with good pvp then go gw2. 

Personally i really cant stick to both long because they both bore me after a while but its a good thing for GW2 since i can play a little bit then pick it up later. Wow does not warrant a sub atm IMO.

Originally posted by DonY81

Look forward to some responses on this one as im still jumping from game to game not really getting stuck into either.

 

And?  Do you need to be 'stuck in' for some reason? (Don't go there boys)

They don't even compete, except for your time.

We presume that, like most mmo players, you have a great deal of excess leisure time to fill.  So-two choices you'd consider valid for you, bonus!

I've played WoW since late beta.  I currently have one level 90 (silvermoon) and eight level 85's(four on Silvermoon/US four on Argent Dawn/EU). 

I may eventually go back and run another of my US 85's up to 90 (likely rogue).  But right now I'm just burned out.  I played a monk up to level 36, and its just not my class. 

With GW2 I played a warrior up to level 60, before I finally gave up.  Its just not my type of game. There is a really limited number of weapon and armor models, the combat system isn't nearly as flexible as say that of TERA, and I really hate the scaling system. 

But the graphics are good, and for people who like to explore and/or collect achievements, they seem to love it. 

Both games appeal to different people. You might wish to try both and see which one you like best. 

Why choose between Wow and GW2, because you can't compare wow and gw2.

But you could compare wow to rift, and you could also compare rift to gw2.

So my simple answer would be, Rift, because it has the instant action you are looking for from Gw2, it has the Gear grind of Wow, and lets just face it, this game "Rift" 's grafix rocks :)

That be my two cents :D

Originally posted by Corehaven

Originally posted by DonY81

Originally posted by ShakyMo
If pvp is your thing gw2
If instanced pve is your thing wow

Yes this is the thing i very much enjoy both. I would say i edge towards PVE. Is the PVe that bad or lacking in GW2?

Im not hardcore by any stretch...i think a little gear progression would be noce though...just a small carrot

PVE is great in GW2.  Its pretty much all Ive done in the month or so since I began playing.  I prefer it greatly to WoW.  There aren't as many dungeons in GW2.  But they are adding them.   For my tastes there's still plenty of dungeons though. 

 

As far as gear progression, I felt I needed to upgrade my gear around every six levels.  Especially weapons.  Thats something I felt was a must.  Armor I might upgrade about every 6-10 levels and I felt that to be also necessary.  Gear has stats for sure, and they are stats you need.  As far as endgame goes, yea they're adding gear progression to that too.   But the game DOES have gear progression. 

 

Heck with WoW I seemed to upgrade my weapons and armor about every 6-10 levels.  I find myself needing to do the exact same thing in GW2 so Im not sure why people say its lacking in gear progression.  Whatever. 

AHH - I play on a European server (I am an American) and it is not dead. I don't know where you get your information from. WHen I go to LA, I always end in an overflow server.

As far as gear progression, I have been using what drops - I never felt the need to upgrade every 6-10 levels (it is just you).

Originally posted by Wraithone

I've played WoW since late beta.  I currently have one level 90 (silvermoon) and eight level 85's(four on Silvermoon/US four on Argent Dawn/EU). 

I may eventually go back and run another of my US 85's up to 90 (likely rogue).  But right now I'm just burned out.  I played a monk up to level 36, and its just not my class. 

With GW2 I played a warrior up to level 60, before I finally gave up.  Its just not my type of game. There is a really limited number of weapon and armor models, the combat system isn't nearly as flexible as say that of TERA, and I really hate the scaling system. 

But the graphics are good, and for people who like to explore and/or collect achievements, they seem to love it. 

Both games appeal to different people. You might wish to try both and see which one you like best. 

My problem with RIft is the engine is CPU-bound. After1.5 years, they still have not optimized the engine. That is pathetic.

Originally posted by Then
If you dont have the pc to play rift, you should not be gaming?

I do but the point is why haven't they optimized the game? Trion admits they have not optimized it - it should have been when it was released. I have the PC for the game, I just find it inexcusable.

Rift, rift...rift.   I still regret paying for the extra version, my Tortagon really got me places.  Until I fell off every other second to mobs 10 levels below me.  Rift wasn't my cup o' tea.  And it wasn't just the mount of course, just my two cents on it for the long run was that it wasn't anything more special than anything else.

WoW.  if you had played it in the past it is now so dumbed down it is so bad compared to before.  i once had fun experimenting with my skill trees.   Perhaps starting fresh it won't seem so bad.

Guild Wars 2.  Ups and downs, limited skills.  Newer game with new PvE experiences across all the races.  Still, a bit stale to me.

Really though, if you want to start fresh I don't think you can go wrong with any of them.  As long as what you want is a progressive quest chain on rails.   GW2 at least masks it.

Originally posted by bliss14

Rift, rift...rift.   I still regret paying for the extra version, my Tortagon really got me places.  Until I fell off every other second to mobs 10 levels below me.  Rift wasn't my cup o' tea.  And it wasn't just the mount of course, just my two cents on it for the long run was that it wasn't anything more special than anything else.

WoW.  if you had played it in the past it is now so dumbed down it is so bad compared to before.  i once had fun experimenting with my skill trees.   Perhaps starting fresh it won't seem so bad.

Guild Wars 2.  Ups and downs, limited skills.  Newer game with new PvE experiences across all the races.  Still, a bit stale to me.

Really though, if you want to start fresh I don't think you can go wrong with any of them.  As long as what you want is a progressive quest chain on rails.   GW2 at least masks it.

I think the point is with GW2, I can go to another starting area and play there. There is no need to be on a rail. Some people like that you know how you are progessing, some don't. Your choice in GW2.

Originally posted by bigsmiff
I would personally choose Rift over them both But, if I narrowed it down to WoW vs. GW2, I would definitely choose WoW since it is so content rich. I had such high hopes for GW2, but I find that it gets boring really fast. I feel that Anet will eventually get this game on the top of the mmo food chain, but as it is right now, it is lacking for me.

WoW is content rich because it is 8 years old. You can't compare a new game to one that has had 4 extra releases to the game. There was a small update to GW2 (another area and a dungeon) and that was in less than 3 months. Compare WoW when it was released to GW2, that would be a fair compariosn, not the way WoW is now.

GW1 had a total of 3 major releases and 3 minor releases in 6 years. A.Net is the content king in that respect, my opinion, although Trion is doing a good job also.

Originally posted by botrytis

Originally posted by bigsmiff
I would personally choose Rift over them both But, if I narrowed it down to WoW vs. GW2, I would definitely choose WoW since it is so content rich. I had such high hopes for GW2, but I find that it gets boring really fast. I feel that Anet will eventually get this game on the top of the mmo food chain, but as it is right now, it is lacking for me.

WoW is content rich because it is 8 years old. You can't compare a new game to one that has had 4 extra releases to the game.

I don't think he was asking for a history lesson. He has to compare them both if he you wants to know about them.

Originally posted by botrytis

Originally posted by bliss14

Rift, rift...rift.   I still regret paying for the extra version, my Tortagon really got me places.  Until I fell off every other second to mobs 10 levels below me.  Rift wasn't my cup o' tea.  And it wasn't just the mount of course, just my two cents on it for the long run was that it wasn't anything more special than anything else.

WoW.  if you had played it in the past it is now so dumbed down it is so bad compared to before.  i once had fun experimenting with my skill trees.   Perhaps starting fresh it won't seem so bad.

Guild Wars 2.  Ups and downs, limited skills.  Newer game with new PvE experiences across all the races.  Still, a bit stale to me.

Really though, if you want to start fresh I don't think you can go wrong with any of them.  As long as what you want is a progressive quest chain on rails.   GW2 at least masks it.

I think the point is with GW2, I can go to another starting area and play there. There is no need to be on a rail. Some people like that you know how you are progessing, some don't. Your choice in GW2.

Ok but it is still on rails right?  The personal storyline directs you through the areas it needs to be done through and on the way you stumble across the hearts and dynamic events that level you.  I don't mean to get off on a rails tangent but really I think it's hard to argue that themeparks like GW2 and most of the others don't direct you in a fairly obvious fashion.

I have absolutely nothing against themeparks, they are the bread and butter of a basic old school RPG experience in my opinion.  When I played Icewind Dale or any of the hallowed old RPG's they had rails.  Same with GW2 which I am currently playing.   The only real additives in GW2 are exploration and crafting - which are not really too evolutionary.  Althoug\h I really enjoy finding and beating the jumping puzzles :)

edit* sorry, i see you meant that you can leave your storyline and do stuff in other areas.  errrrm.....that really still seems pretty stale to me.  I mean, i'm doing all the races stories anyway why would I want to deviate from norn to asura when i'm doing it with an asura?  that's what i mean by Role Playing Game, you choose a race, play the role and go from there. 

god i hope Greed Monger is good.

Try a real MMO, Asheron's Call.

Both the games you stated, and ones generally like it, ARE NOT WORTH PLAYING, if you are playing games to have fun and feel accomplished.

Originally posted by IIIcurrier

Try a real MMO, Asheron's Call.

 

Both the games you stated, and ones generally like it, ARE NOT WORTH PLAYING, if you are playing games to have fun and feel accomplished.

Fun is key to me - I did play Asheron's Call and I didnt fund it fun - just me I guess.

After all, I do enough accomplishments in RL, I just use a game to unwind and have fun. If it starts to feel like work, I leave.

I guess thats the difference you play Lvl 1 in mario over and over and enjoy it, I beat it in record times, or no death.

2 types of gamers, new games are made for the first.

Originally posted by IIIcurrier

I guess thats the difference you play Lvl 1 in mario over and over and enjoy it, I beat it in record times, or no death.

 

2 types of gamers, new games are made for the first.

Whoa you beat Mario with no deaths???

Originally posted by bliss14

Originally posted by botrytis

Originally posted by bliss14

Rift, rift...rift.   I still regret paying for the extra version, my Tortagon really got me places.  Until I fell off every other second to mobs 10 levels below me.  Rift wasn't my cup o' tea.  And it wasn't just the mount of course, just my two cents on it for the long run was that it wasn't anything more special than anything else.

WoW.  if you had played it in the past it is now so dumbed down it is so bad compared to before.  i once had fun experimenting with my skill trees.   Perhaps starting fresh it won't seem so bad.

Guild Wars 2.  Ups and downs, limited skills.  Newer game with new PvE experiences across all the races.  Still, a bit stale to me.

Really though, if you want to start fresh I don't think you can go wrong with any of them.  As long as what you want is a progressive quest chain on rails.   GW2 at least masks it.

I think the point is with GW2, I can go to another starting area and play there. There is no need to be on a rail. Some people like that you know how you are progessing, some don't. Your choice in GW2.

Ok but it is still on rails right?  The personal storyline directs you through the areas it needs to be done through and on the way you stumble across the hearts and dynamic events that level you.  I don't mean to get off on a rails tangent but really I think it's hard to argue that themeparks like GW2 and most of the others don't direct you in a fairly obvious fashion.

<snip>

The personal storyline is IMO one of the weaker parts of the game and can be ignored once you are out of the starting instance. Like most themeparks GW2 zones are tuned for a level range so you are limited on where to go in that sense (less so than say LOTRO or Aion because scaling means you can still get XP and usable drops in zones below your level), but nothing is stopping you from turning round and heading back into your home city, taking the portal to LA then going to any of the other four 1-15 zones.

Originally posted by IIIcurrier

Try a real MMO, Asheron's Call.

 

Both the games you stated, and ones generally like it, ARE NOT WORTH PLAYING, if you are playing games to have fun and feel accomplished.

I played AC for almost two years, way back when.  Great game for its time, but its graphics are VERY outdated, and I refuse to go back to corpse runs and lost gear.