Originally posted by stygianapoth

I like all games really, and I was looking forward to a fresh new FPS. But the only way I can describe it... Tribes Ascend. 

Sorry, but it's nothing like Tribes.

This pertains to the "f2p" system they have. Sure you can slowly and painstakingly (did I mention slowly?) get your gear and level up to new better armor and weapons. But the reason why games like these have a "pay to not grind" system is because people WILL and DO pay for this.

Slow? Maybe, but that's subjective to your playstyle. The differences in armor/weapons that you can buy is very negligible. There simply isn't 1 weapon better than the other, they all have advantages and disadvantages.

So now you are matched against people with the best upgrades because they have dispoable income. Personally I do not think this makes a great game.

Again, there is NO best upgrade... There are sidegrades.

On a more personal note, I hate team based games. I do not like having to be in a guild/clan whatever to have fun. I do not like teamspeak. I do not like following orders else I be kicked. I do not like snobby leaders that think they are god's best creation.

Sorry you feel that way, but the game is definitely playable solo. but it is an empire effort to achieve anything... Sorry that there's nothing there to hold your hand like other game where killing is the only goal. All your gripes against leaders/outfits leads me to believe that you just have bad luck. There a many outfits that are very professional and know what they are doing... they also do not force you to play their way.

Besides that, this game has many bugs, crashes, and overall poor game development.

I don't experience any issues... maybe take it up to the official forums and get it sorted out?

The reason why I got bored within 1 day is because it's the same thing. Defend this base. Attack that base. I mean that is it.

Maybe that's all you see with your very narrow-minded view. This isn't BF or CoD where it IS just that and with that same view you can easily classify any game that way. There is a lot to accomplish in Planetside and so many different ways to do them... No battle is the same.

I personally like being a sniper, but you can't snipe aircraft or tanks. If you want to make certs as a free player you MUST go heavy infantry for the rocket launcher.

That's definitely not the only way to gain certs. You could remain as a scout and not kill a single enemy and still gain certs. 

The other way to make certs is to capture a base. That is boring for me. I want to kill people and snipe them. But it's impossible as an infiltrator. Sure I've had my good runs where I sniped 10 with headshots before I ran out of ammo. But it's subpar compared to the other classes that can make way more bank.

There's always going to be situations where you won't be able to achieve as much as another class... It's all part of the dynamic/persistent battlefield which isn't in any other games.

I cannot see myself playing this game much longer unless I feel like a 20-30 minute FPS urge. It's just not worth it when people out there spend hundreds of dollars to upgrade every aspect of their infantry, vehicles, and aircraft, to become more "skilled" than you.

Did I mention sony made the game?

All I hear is QQ up to this point. I have everyone weapon in the game and DIDN'T have to spend hundreds of dollars to get them.

Well, I've been playing for over a month, not every day but a good 4/5 times a week and I still enjoy it immensly.

I spent £30 on the alpha pack to support the game, I wont be spending anymore money and dont see that I need to.

By the way, Tribes Ascend is a much better system than this one.  I'd rather see Tribes scaled up to an MMOFPS than play PS2 as it stands today.  

As others have noted, and I have been saying since Planetside 1, the experience is clunky.  For some reason, SOE seems to have a team that is not very good at working with physics in a way which makes the game feel smooth and substantial.  Compared to all the other FPS games out there, PS2 still feels cheap to me.

Like all MMO's out of the gate this one certainly has it's troubles.

As for the point, have fun and I don't see that happening to anyone that just wants to solo. This game is meant for good teamwork. I have already shown it to about 1/2 dozen people, most that can't stand Call of Duty and some that don't care for FPS's, so far they can't put the thing down. Maybe it's that "new" factor but I (we) are having blast and have not spent a dime, yet. Some of these large battles are pretty spectacular.

P2W? I took out my BR6 engineer last night and was taking out BR20+, without assistance. So here is a tip, aim for head! I have yet to feel overpowered because someone has a ton of upgrades.

Hopefully they will work out the kinks and add some new dynamics into the mix. As it stands today, they are off to a pretty good start.

Originally posted by BizkitNL
hh, so this is where all the naysayers went.

Yeah, you can skitter on back on to your fanboy discussions where everyone agrees with you.  Echo-chambers are safe and fun for some people.

Originally posted by MindTrigger

Originally posted by BizkitNL
hh, so this is where all the naysayers went.

Yeah, you can skitter on back on to your fanboy discussions where everyone agrees with you.  Echo-chambers are safe and fun for some people.

Aww.

Look, you lot can argue about this all you want, that's fine. But don't even try to turn your opinions into facts.

The FACT is: hundreds of people have been enjoying PS2 since Beta, even more do so now.

But I guess if you can't enjoy it, no one should? Heh.

Originally posted by BizkitNL

Look, you lot can argue about this all you want, that's fine. But don't even try to turn your opinions into facts.

The FACT is: hundreds of people have been enjoying PS2 since Beta, even more do so now.

But I guess if you can't enjoy it, no one should? Heh.

What are you babbling on about?  What facts?  The fact also remains that some of us think the game sucks.  You don't have to agree.  No one is forcing you to comply with our opinion, and I don't know why you feel so threatened by those who disagree with you. 

Originally posted by MindTrigger

Originally posted by BizkitNL

Look, you lot can argue about this all you want, that's fine. But don't even try to turn your opinions into facts.

The FACT is: hundreds of people have been enjoying PS2 since Beta, even more do so now.

But I guess if you can't enjoy it, no one should? Heh.

What are you babbling on about?  What facts?  The fact also remains that some of us think the game sucks.  You don't have to agree.  No one is forcing you to comply with our opinion, and I don't know why you feel so threatened by those who disagree with you. 

Now who's babbling?

Originally posted by BizkitNL

Originally posted by MindTrigger

Originally posted by BizkitNL

Look, you lot can argue about this all you want, that's fine. But don't even try to turn your opinions into facts.

The FACT is: hundreds of people have been enjoying PS2 since Beta, even more do so now.

But I guess if you can't enjoy it, no one should? Heh.

What are you babbling on about?  What facts?  The fact also remains that some of us think the game sucks.  You don't have to agree.  No one is forcing you to comply with our opinion, and I don't know why you feel so threatened by those who disagree with you. 

Now who's babbling?

Blocked.

Originally posted by MindTrigger

Originally posted by BizkitNL

Originally posted by MindTrigger

Originally posted by BizkitNL

Look, you lot can argue about this all you want, that's fine. But don't even try to turn your opinions into facts.

The FACT is: hundreds of people have been enjoying PS2 since Beta, even more do so now.

But I guess if you can't enjoy it, no one should? Heh.

What are you babbling on about?  What facts?  The fact also remains that some of us think the game sucks.  You don't have to agree.  No one is forcing you to comply with our opinion, and I don't know why you feel so threatened by those who disagree with you. 

Now who's babbling?

Blocked.

Sigh.

Originally posted by redcapp
Boring game IMO.  If I'm going to play an FPS, it might as well be something like CS.  The whole capturing/defending bases, going up against vehicles that your class can't damage, getting run over by teammates thing.. is not what I'm looking for.

Well, theyre definately different types of FPS games.

The facts are this:

If you've never joined an organized outfit, you've only skimmed the surface of the game. The game has a die-hard fan base for this reason and no other game allows you to do what you can do in PS.

Originally posted by tkoreaper

The facts are this:

If you've never joined an organized outfit, you've only skimmed the surface of the game. The game has a die-hard fan base for this reason and no other game allows you to do what you can do in PS.

This doesn't change the fact that all you are doing is flipping the same static bases over and over and over again.  If Smed ever brings in those "sandbox" type open lands with player-built bases he talked about before, then there may be something to write home about.  

However, if you are enjoying this game, more power to ya.  I find it mind-numbing, clunky and slow, personally.  Your opinion may vary.

Originally posted by MindTrigger

Originally posted by tkoreaper

The facts are this:

If you've never joined an organized outfit, you've only skimmed the surface of the game. The game has a die-hard fan base for this reason and no other game allows you to do what you can do in PS.

This doesn't change the fact that all you are doing is flipping the same static bases over and over and over again.  If Smed ever brings in those "sandbox" type open lands with player-builr bases he talked about before, then there may be something to write home about.  

However, if you are enjoying this game, more power to ya.  I find it mind-numbing, clunky and slow, personally.  Your opinion may vary.

Honestly, with that kind of narrow-minded view, you're never going to get anything more out of a FPS game based on war. It's a war... the point is to fight over territory until the enemy can no longer fight back. I don't see anything changing that... not even player made bases because even those bases will become the same "static bases" where all you're doing is flipping control.

Where YOU see just that, I see amusement that lasts for hours and it keeps me entertained. It's more than just flipping territory... it's WAR. Having the ability to organize a ton of people in a single outfit and getting stuff done is fun and exciting to me. I am part of a massive outfit and at any point of the day we have AT LEAST 3 platoons going, if not more. Each platoon is different (Air Wing, Armor, Infantry, Rapid Response, ect) and all platoons/squads organize together and communicate to do the impossible. No other game allows you to do this.

The game can only get better and it will really start to flesh out once more continents are created. The original game had 10 continents.

What you are experiencing is a L2P issue... and no, not the excuse elitists say, but the real definition of L2P. Learn to play (have fun in) the game. If you're going to continue to view the game in the same way you are now, you'll never enjoy it.

Originally posted by tkoreaper

Originally posted by MindTrigger

Originally posted by tkoreaper

The facts are this:

If you've never joined an organized outfit, you've only skimmed the surface of the game. The game has a die-hard fan base for this reason and no other game allows you to do what you can do in PS.

This doesn't change the fact that all you are doing is flipping the same static bases over and over and over again.  If Smed ever brings in those "sandbox" type open lands with player-builr bases he talked about before, then there may be something to write home about.  

However, if you are enjoying this game, more power to ya.  I find it mind-numbing, clunky and slow, personally.  Your opinion may vary.

Honestly, with that kind of narrow-minded view, you're never going to get anything more out of a FPS game based on war. It's a war... the point is to fight over territory until the enemy can no longer fight back. I don't see anything changing that... not even player made bases because even those bases will become the same "static bases" where all you're doing is flipping control.

No they won't because the bases will be destroyable and there will need to be more gameplay dynamics added to allow for construction of the bases.  Hell, defending a base under construction so that it can be finished already sounds more fun than what we have now.  Smed agreees, look it up.

Where YOU see just that, I see amusement that lasts for hours and it keeps me entertained. It's more than just flipping territory... it's WAR. Having the ability to organize a ton of people in a single outfit and getting stuff done is fun and exciting to me. I am part of a massive outfit and at any point of the day we have AT LEAST 3 platoons going, if not more. Each platoon is different (Air Wing, Armor, Infantry, Rapid Response, ect) and all platoons/squads organize together and communicate to do the impossible. No other game allows you to do this.

I'm glad you enjoy it, but personally I think games like BF3 do a much better job of presenting static objectives.  The engines used in those games also feel much more substantial, and they have better physics.  Again, this is my opinion.  Yours may vary.

The game can only get better and it will really start to flesh out once more continents are created. The original game had 10 continents.

What you are experiencing is a L2P issue... and no, not the excuse elitists say, but the real definition of L2P. Learn to play (have fun in) the game. If you're going to continue to view the game in the same way you are now, you'll never enjoy it.

I've played shooters competitively for 15+ years, and I fail to see any complexity that requires substantial learning effort in this game.  I'll keep an eye on it.  I bought it in beta (Alpha Squad), and I'm hoping it developes into something more interesting after about a year of updates.

Originally posted by MindTrigger

Originally posted by tkoreaper

Originally posted by MindTrigger

Originally posted by tkoreaper

The facts are this:

If you've never joined an organized outfit, you've only skimmed the surface of the game. The game has a die-hard fan base for this reason and no other game allows you to do what you can do in PS.

This doesn't change the fact that all you are doing is flipping the same static bases over and over and over again.  If Smed ever brings in those "sandbox" type open lands with player-builr bases he talked about before, then there may be something to write home about.  

However, if you are enjoying this game, more power to ya.  I find it mind-numbing, clunky and slow, personally.  Your opinion may vary.

Honestly, with that kind of narrow-minded view, you're never going to get anything more out of a FPS game based on war. It's a war... the point is to fight over territory until the enemy can no longer fight back. I don't see anything changing that... not even player made bases because even those bases will become the same "static bases" where all you're doing is flipping control.

No they won't because the bases will be destroyable and there will need to be more gameplay dynamics added to allow for construction of the bases.  Hell, defending a base under construction so that it can be finished already sounds more fun than what we have now.  Smed agreees, look it up.

Where YOU see just that, I see amusement that lasts for hours and it keeps me entertained. It's more than just flipping territory... it's WAR. Having the ability to organize a ton of people in a single outfit and getting stuff done is fun and exciting to me. I am part of a massive outfit and at any point of the day we have AT LEAST 3 platoons going, if not more. Each platoon is different (Air Wing, Armor, Infantry, Rapid Response, ect) and all platoons/squads organize together and communicate to do the impossible. No other game allows you to do this.

I'm glad you enjoy it, but personally I think games like BF3 do a much better job of presenting static objectives.  The engines used in those games also feel much more substantial, and they have better physics.  Again, this is my opinion.  Yours may vary.

The game can only get better and it will really start to flesh out once more continents are created. The original game had 10 continents.

What you are experiencing is a L2P issue... and no, not the excuse elitists say, but the real definition of L2P. Learn to play (have fun in) the game. If you're going to continue to view the game in the same way you are now, you'll never enjoy it.

I've played shooters competitively for 15+ years, and I fail to see any complexity that requires substantial learning effort in this game.  I'll keep an eye on it.  I bought it in beta (Alpha Squad), and I'm hoping it developes into something more interesting after about a year of updates.

 

You're most likely always going to see better physics and stuff in those smaller games because they are a lot smaller. PS is a whole other monster and takes a lot more to run. You think it's bad now... it'll probably get worse if buildings become destroyable. I have very little game development experience so I may be totally wrong, but I did go to college for game development for a year and something such as that on a scale as massive as planetside is not easy by any means,