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  RudyRaccoon

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OP  11/24/12 10:49:38 AM#1

From what I see MMO's are just getting worse and worse every year now, nevermind the anti-social WoW swarming with pandas, Guild Wars 2 has now dropped the ball with their own problem, with Ascended armor so Guild Wars 2 is now like WoW with the easy but grindy gear system. [mod edit]

I don't like MMO's myself anymore, I'm fed up of the trolling and the lack of fun people to be around with. I suppose I'll never get into online gaming ever again if online gaming is going to continue down this route.

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  Amaranthar

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11/24/12 11:38:24 AM#2
I agree. But some small move is being attempted, although it's still bogged down with old thinking of making games instead of worlds.

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  Loktofeit

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11/24/12 11:50:49 AM#3

All these kids in their fancy new Ascended gear and hip Pandas need to get off your MMO lawn!

 

 

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  RudyRaccoon

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OP  11/24/12 11:54:03 AM#4
Originally posted by Loktofeit

All these kids in their fancy new Ascended gear and hip Pandas need to get off your MMO lawn!

Yeah, we don't need it. Get off our lawn.

  madazz

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11/24/12 12:21:31 PM#5
Originally posted by RudyRaccoon
Originally posted by Loktofeit

All these kids in their fancy new Ascended gear and hip Pandas need to get off your MMO lawn!

Yeah, we don't need it. Get off our lawn.

And they can take their "end game" with them!

  cagar

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11/24/12 12:21:38 PM#6

Companys are to busy trying to put a little something for everybody in mmo's today.

Remember having a tank, healer, crowd control, ranged dps, melee dps, and a puller?

we now have tank, healer, dps, or not even that I some games.

We use to NEED a group to do things, now we can group if we want to run an instance, maybe raid.

i do like having some solo content to do while lfg, but now it makes up most of the game.

Instanced pvp is now just the same rehashed bs from one game to another. Huttball was kind of a fun spin on capture the flag until it was just about the only one you got in to do. 

Unfortunately until wow collapses, aaa company's will just keep rehashing the same thing to keep investors happy until some indie company really changes something that is a hit.

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  madazz

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11/24/12 12:26:47 PM#7
Originally posted by cagar

Companys are to busy trying to put a little something for everybody in mmo's today.

Remember having a tank, healer, crowd control, ranged dps, melee dps, and a puller?

we now have tank, healer, dps, or not even that I some games.

We use to NEED a group to do things, now we can group if we want to run an instance, maybe raid.

i do like having some solo content to do while lfg, but now it makes up most of the game.

Instanced pvp is now just the same rehashed bs from one game to another. Huttball was kind of a fun spin on capture the flag until it was just about the only one you got in to do. 

Unfortunately until wow collapses, aaa company's will just keep rehashing the same thing to keep investors happy until some indie company really changes something that is a hit.

I hope this doesn't come off wrong, but it sounds to me like you want the same old thing rehashed over and over too, just a different thing. That thing being forced grouping with little solo content... I can see forced grouping for some parts of the game, but you shouldn't need to group to progress in the game in general IMO. I like games that have a good mixture of the two.

  Kyleran

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11/24/12 12:26:56 PM#8

I dunno if MMO's are getting worse, but this same topic literally keeps coming back up every weekend, just in a different thread.

Yes, no, maybe so, who can say?

For the rest of us, there's always EVE.

And soon I'll be playing DF:UW.

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  Icewhite

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11/24/12 12:29:15 PM#9

State of MMOs?  Naw.

Rhetoric re: Doom?  Far worse.

Thinly designed 'bash the damnkids' posts?  It's a spectator sport in these here parts.

Self-pity imprisons us in the walls of our own self-absorption. The whole world shrinks down to the size of our problem, and the more we dwell on it, the smaller we are and the larger the problem seems to grow.

  ShakyMo

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11/24/12 12:39:04 PM#10
No best mmo in bloody years has just released and its free.

Also tsw and gw2 were a cut above most mmos of the past 5 years or so.

I believe 2011 was the low for mmos and things are gradually picking up.

You certainly can't call planetside, gw and tsw lazy wow clones.
  Icewhite

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11/24/12 12:41:33 PM#11

Do they sell these, in the mmorpg.com shop?

Self-pity imprisons us in the walls of our own self-absorption. The whole world shrinks down to the size of our problem, and the more we dwell on it, the smaller we are and the larger the problem seems to grow.

  muchavez

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11/24/12 12:52:56 PM#12

im feeling rather optimistic

 

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While these are a long way off the future looks bright.

  Lissyl

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If cosmetics aren't content, why don't people demand a cheaper game done in full grayscale?

11/24/12 12:58:08 PM#13
Other than some odd reference to 'pandas' (and if you're busy complaining about the Pandaren, I'll take it as a matter of principle that you haven't actually played MoP), your complaints -- and mine -- are not about MMO's.  It's about the way the online gaming community has seemed to sour.  Players could still police their own...they simply don't have the desire to.  And since they won't, and companies won't, then the trend will continue until someone decides enough is enough.
  Icewhite

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11/24/12 1:01:57 PM#14
Originally posted by Lissyl
Players could still police their own...they simply don't have the desire to.  And since they won't, and companies won't, then the trend will continue until someone decides enough is enough.

Hasn't really been possible, let alone effective, since Blizzard (and other companies) began selling 'get out of jail free' cards.

Self-pity imprisons us in the walls of our own self-absorption. The whole world shrinks down to the size of our problem, and the more we dwell on it, the smaller we are and the larger the problem seems to grow.

  austriacus

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11/24/12 1:05:29 PM#15

I feel really sorry for this community, always looking at the past and never being thankfull for what they got. Stuck perpetually in nostalgia and never acepting change.

Trully sorry.

 

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  CalmOceans

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11/24/12 1:16:31 PM#16

The graphics are better, animations are better, servers are much more stable.

But the community is horrendous in most MMO imo, the F2P model with a cash shop is hard to like, being constantly spammed and nickle and dimed.

It's a wash overall for me, while some technical aspects improved, the communities and payment model are much worse than in the past.

  User Deleted
11/24/12 1:17:24 PM#17

 

Conan's Father: Fire and wind come from the sky, from the gods of the sky. But Crom is your god, Crom and he lives in the earth. Once, giant developers lived in the Earth, Conan. And in the darkness of chaos, they fooled Crom, and they took from him the enigma of role playing game. Crom was angered. And the Earth shook. Fire and wind struck down these giant developers, and they threw their bodies into the waters, but in their rage, the gods forgot the secret of role playing game and left it on the battlefield. We who found it are just men. Not gods. Not giant developers. Just men. The secret of role playing has always carried with it a mystery. You must learn its riddle, Conan. You must learn its discipline. For no one - no one in this world can you trust. Not men, not women, not beasts.
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  Icewhite

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11/24/12 1:29:49 PM#18
Originally posted by ForumPvP
Not men, not women, not breasts.

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Conan's Father: This you can trust.

Just a couple of minor mods, since FC owns the rights currently.

Next time, use Fafhrd.  His IP is free and clear, just expensive.

Self-pity imprisons us in the walls of our own self-absorption. The whole world shrinks down to the size of our problem, and the more we dwell on it, the smaller we are and the larger the problem seems to grow.

  nariusseldon

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11/24/12 1:46:04 PM#19
Originally posted by RudyRaccoon

From what I see MMO's are just getting worse and worse every year now, nevermind the anti-social WoW swarming with pandas, Guild Wars 2 has now dropped the ball with their own problem, with Ascended armor so Guild Wars 2 is now like WoW with the easy but grindy gear system. Do I get the feeling that MMO's are just retarded now?

I don't like MMO's myself anymore, I'm fed up of the trolling and the lack of fun people to be around with. I suppose I'll never get into online gaming ever again if online gaming is going to continue down this route.

No. I see MMOs are getting better and better. First, they become F2P. Now most don't require you to socialize when you don't want to. Now most don't require you to commit to anything (like raid schedule) and can jump in and play for a while any time you want to.

Marvel Heroes is coming that merge MMOs with Marvel Ultimate Alliance gameplay.

MMOs are branching out into FPS (Planetside 2), MOBA, some features go into ARPG (AH on D3). I am playing much more online game than SP game because of this trend.

  User Deleted
11/24/12 1:57:29 PM#20
Originally posted by Icewhite
Originally posted by ForumPvP
Not men, not women, not breasts.

[Points to AoC]
Conan's Father: This you can trust.

Just a couple of minor mods, since FC owns the rights currently.

Next time, use Fafhrd.  His IP is free and clear, just expensive.

dang it,I remember trying to play that and i learned a lot about naked virtual bodies and russian,my virtual Hyborian adventures ended quite fast.

 

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