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11/23/12 8:04:07 PM#21

It's not just a matter of one person choosing not to look up game information online.  It's that, regardless of what you do or don't do, everyone else expects you to.  New raid bosses are good examples, in that if you didn't know the fight (hadn't watched a youtube video or something), you probably would get passed over for someone who did.  Same thing with character spec's and gear choices.  It's all BiS or you don't go.  This criticism is mainly aimed at WoW, since it's where I got to experience it as a raid leader taking in people with those very complaints, but I imagine it's the same other places.

Of course it's moot with WoW now, since they opted to simplify fight mechanics to facilitate the raid finder.  That and, people are going to keep standing in the "fire" anyway now that you can't tell what's good (healing rain) and what's bad (blue circle of death puke that kills you).

  fiftyplusgeek

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11/23/12 8:09:15 PM#22

It depends on how inane a questline plays out.

I've done it several times (STO, WoW) just because I wanted the damn quest to end.

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  Icewhite

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11/23/12 8:12:24 PM#23
Originally posted by asmkm22

New raid bosses are good examples, in that if you didn't know the fight (hadn't watched a youtube video or something), you probably would get passed over for someone who did. 

Come on now, there's very good reason to expect raiding players to know the raid bosses.  One hurp derp standing in the fire can give repair bills and rebuff time to 24 others. 

Doesn't matter if you ask them if they know the fight; always one standing in the fire with his finger up his nose anyway.  But you have to try.

You can't expect people to come equipped and prepared! Dat's Communist!  zomg mah democratic freedoms!  Yours end when they impede others, same as the real world.

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  Shoko_Lied

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11/23/12 8:12:50 PM#24
Originally posted by VengeSunsoar
Originally posted by denshing
It's an implausible question because it's impossible to not be able to google for quest help.

 I can't decide if this is a serious statement or not.

If not serious, well done you caught me.

If serious, thats kind of sad.  How is it impossible to not use google or really any other program than the game itself?

You don't have to if you don't want to. But the internet is open source. If someone wants to provide information on quests, they will, and it will be available for other people to search for. You can't censor that sort of information.

  Aparition

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11/23/12 8:18:54 PM#25
id prefer not having quests at all :)

  Niburu

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11/23/12 8:19:30 PM#26
With all the quest markers and and the boring standard quest type, you need to google for help ? Wow good luck iam a darkfall player
  rojoArcueid

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11/23/12 8:25:32 PM#27

theres really no need to google answers in most mmos since the quest logs and quest tracker points specifically to the solution, but yeah i would definitely play that mmorpg in which both google and the quest tracker arent holding my hand.

  FrodoFragins

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11/23/12 9:42:58 PM#28

From a purely role playing perspective, who wouldn't put you on a task and not tell you WHERE to go.  Sure, occasional quests could just say "A brigand stole my family heirloom and ran into the woods".  But most of the times it makes sense for a questgiver to actually give you directions.

 

And so, if it's difficult to figure out what do do or where to go, I'd probably just play a different game.

  mikecackle

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OP  11/23/12 10:05:39 PM#29
Originally posted by FrodoFragins

From a purely role playing perspective, who wouldn't put you on a task and not tell you WHERE to go.  Sure, occasional quests could just say "A brigand stole my family heirloom and ran into the woods".  But most of the times it makes sense for a questgiver to actually give you directions.

 

And so, if it's difficult to figure out what do do or where to go, I'd probably just play a different game.

Who stated the quest giver wouldnt tell you where to go? :D

  Torgrim

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11/24/12 5:04:10 AM#30
Originally posted by mikecackle
Originally posted by Torgrim
Originally posted by mikecackle

If it was possible to make a game, where GOOGLE would be no help to your questing or any website for that matter, to look up information on what you needed to do or where exactly to go... Would you play that MMORPG? Or would it be too hard or boring for you?

 

 

 

Just ask in chat.

 

You couldn't really do it in chat either, because then it would make it to a site or Google....

 

 

And here died the thread.

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  toddze

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11/24/12 5:08:09 AM#31
Originally posted by shagma
Wait, you're telling me you have to google how to kill ten rats?

This exactly! Since when do you need google to find a massive flashing red X on your map, or a big neon yellow "!" on your screen. Oh how I want to play a game where I might actually need googles help.

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  Nitth

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11/24/12 5:10:46 AM#32


Originally posted by mikecackle
If it was possible to make a game, where GOOGLE would be no help to your questing or any website for that matter, to look up information on what you needed to do or where exactly to go... Would you play that MMORPG? Or would it be too hard or boring for you?

 

 


Well, once apon a time it was kinda like that, go to a store, or ring the gaming hotline.


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  fenistil

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11/24/12 5:16:59 AM#33

If I would play it?   I would love it.   No fuckin quest gps and no google?  Brilliant. 

 Besides I don't use internet almost never anyway in games, mmorpg's included, but game made around and quest designed around - quest gps, arrows, markets, etc  bore me out like hell.

 

 

  mikecackle

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OP  11/24/12 11:59:02 AM#34
Originally posted by grimgryphon

It depends on how inane a questline plays out.

I've done it several times (STO, WoW) just because I wanted the damn quest to end.

Ahh, questline.....

How I hate that word.. questline.. why is it a line?  

 

  niceguy3978

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11/24/12 12:03:52 PM#35
Originally posted by VengeSunsoar
Originally posted by denshing
It's an implausible question because it's impossible to not be able to google for quest help.

 I can't decide if this is a serious statement or not.

If not serious, well done you caught me.

If serious, thats kind of sad.  How is it impossible to not use google or really any other program than the game itself?

I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure he meant that there is no technology right now that would prevent this from happening.  If you want to play a game that way now you can, so we don't have to wait for some future game.

  Grunim

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11/24/12 12:04:45 PM#36
Sure, I'd play a game where I couldn't go online to get quest help.  I played MUDs for years that way and today on MMOs I try to figure things out myself rather than find spoilers.
  Slampig

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11/24/12 12:05:17 PM#37
There was a time when you played these games and there was no such thing as Google. And I had just as much fun then as I do now.

That Guild Wars 2 login screen knocked up my wife. Must be the second coming!

  RaulBlue

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11/24/12 12:05:42 PM#38
can't tell you how many times I look up how to crat in minecraft and salem online how do you make fire ><!
  korent1991

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11/24/12 12:08:28 PM#39
Originally posted by mikecackle
Originally posted by denshing
It's an implausible question because it's impossible to not be able to google for quest help.

in old school games yes, but sometimes a new system may evolve where that might not be possible... ;)

Such system will never exists, unless quests will be randomly generated and never repeat. You're forgeting that people are the main factor in this. People are posting "quest objectives", solutions, places, etc. on the most different places on net so it's kinda impossible to prevent it.

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  mikecackle

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OP  11/24/12 1:28:32 PM#40
Originally posted by korent1991
Originally posted by mikecackle
Originally posted by denshing
It's an implausible question because it's impossible to not be able to google for quest help.

in old school games yes, but sometimes a new system may evolve where that might not be possible... ;)

Such system will never exists, unless quests will be randomly generated and never repeat. You're forgeting that people are the main factor in this. People are posting "quest objectives", solutions, places, etc. on the most different places on net so it's kinda impossible to prevent it.

Is it really impossible? I challenge your statement and provide few answers

1. random quest name

2. random npc names that spawn

3. random locations for npc

4. random objectives

What could you possible google if such system above created quest? What could you chat about in public chat even?

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