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  FrodoFragins

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11/24/12 2:44:13 AM#61

Didn't Nexon only buy like 15% of NCSoft?  They'd need a lot more to change the way business is run there.

 

If the lead devs aren't working on GW2 it's probably because they are working on a new project for ANet.

  Arcondo87

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11/24/12 2:46:34 AM#62
Originally posted by Roxtarr

Am I the only one who things that the OP's post was just a 'clever' way to say that "Nexon took over and the game sucks now?"

 

sucks now?? It sucked when it was released and hasent gotten any better. Only reason why i got GW1 aws cuz i won a beta key back in the day and got a free copy for the copetition i took part in for it. Played it for a total of 1 month adn i have no idea where it is now....was a horrible game then and left a bad taste in my mouth...that is why i do not support Anet. They are the next Fun Com

  JimmyYO

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11/24/12 3:09:32 AM#63
The sad part is people get flagged for even dumber crap on this site. It all comes down to how bias the particular mod viewing you is.
  StonesDK

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11/24/12 4:07:58 AM#64
Originally posted by JimmyYO
The sad part is people get flagged for even dumber crap on this site. It all comes down to how bias the particular mod viewing you is.

Specially towards the ones who blog here, since their articles brings in visitors. I've personally whitnessed it more than once. If you are a blogger here you are golden

  just1opinion

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11/24/12 12:07:30 PM#65
Originally posted by Roxtarr

Am I the only one who things that the OP's post was just a 'clever' way to say that "Nexon took over and the game sucks now?"

 

 

I'm confused.  Are we getting Nexon and NCSoft confused?  So far as I've ever known, NCSoft is in this venture with ArenaNet, not Nexon.  Has that changed???

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  Kyleran

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11/24/12 12:12:35 PM#66
Originally posted by just1opinion
Originally posted by Roxtarr

Am I the only one who things that the OP's post was just a 'clever' way to say that "Nexon took over and the game sucks now?"

 

 

I'm confused.  Are we getting Nexon and NCSoft confused?  So far as I've ever known, NCSoft is in this venture with ArenaNet, not Nexon.  Has that changed???

Nexon purchased about 15% of NCSoft's stock during the summer so some folks feel they are now calling the shots for GW2 and other titles managed  by NC.

 

Arrogant, Condescending, Dismissive, Elitist, "Meany", you speak as if these are bad things?
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  eyelolled

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11/24/12 12:15:58 PM#67
Originally posted by just1opinion
Originally posted by Roxtarr

Am I the only one who things that the OP's post was just a 'clever' way to say that "Nexon took over and the game sucks now?"

 

 

I'm confused.  Are we getting Nexon and NCSoft confused?  So far as I've ever known, NCSoft is in this venture with ArenaNet, not Nexon.  Has that changed???

Back in June 8 of this year, Nexon bought $685 million in shares of NCsoft (I beleive that number is right) and they are now the largest shareholder in the company. ArenaNet has an agreement giving them certain control over the Guild Wars franchise because the technology used to  code GW is patented by the developers themselves, not Arenanet and therefore not NCsoft.

All of my posts are either intelligent, thought provoking, funny, satirical, sarcastic or intentionally disrespectful. Take your pick.

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  botrytis

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11/24/12 12:54:24 PM#68
Originally posted by eyelolled
Originally posted by just1opinion
Originally posted by Roxtarr

Am I the only one who things that the OP's post was just a 'clever' way to say that "Nexon took over and the game sucks now?"

 

 

I'm confused.  Are we getting Nexon and NCSoft confused?  So far as I've ever known, NCSoft is in this venture with ArenaNet, not Nexon.  Has that changed???

Back in June 8 of this year, Nexon bought $685 million in shares of NCsoft (I beleive that number is right) and they are now the largest shareholder in the company. ArenaNet has an agreement giving them certain control over the Guild Wars franchise because the technology used to  code GW is patented by the developers themselves, not Arenanet and therefore not NCsoft.

Can you show where they have control? I would like to read that.

 

 

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  InFlamestwo

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11/24/12 12:57:53 PM#69
In what section of the forums did you post it?

  Vhaln

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11/24/12 12:58:22 PM#70
Originally posted by Kyleran
Originally posted by just1opinion
Originally posted by Roxtarr

Am I the only one who things that the OP's post was just a 'clever' way to say that "Nexon took over and the game sucks now?"

I'm confused.  Are we getting Nexon and NCSoft confused?  So far as I've ever known, NCSoft is in this venture with ArenaNet, not Nexon.  Has that changed???

Nexon purchased about 15% of NCSoft's stock during the summer so some folks feel they are now calling the shots for GW2 and other titles managed  by NC.

 

15% sounds insignificant to those of us who just understand the basic math of what 15% means, but AFAIK, that's actually pretty substantial, when it comes to shareholding and that sort of thing.

Someone correct me if I'm wrong.  This isn't the sort of thing I usually pay any attention to.

When I want a single-player story, I'll play a single-player game. When I play an MMO, I want a massively multiplayer world.

  botrytis

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11/24/12 1:03:56 PM#71

The idea is Nexon and NCSoft are trying to aquire Valve - then that will be the joint venture  That was in Sept. now Valve said it was not true.

 

http://www.ign.com/articles/2012/09/27/report-nexon-and-ncsoft-trying-to-acquire-valve

http://venturebeat.com/2012/09/26/will-asian-online-game-publishers-nexon-and-ncsoft-buy-blockbuster-publisher-valve/

 

http://www.guildwarsinsider.com/nexon-acquires-14-7-minority-interest-ncsoft/

 

It sounds like Valve is more interested in tGW2 technology rather than control. at 14.7% there is not alot they can do.

 

Also they bought the shares from the CEO - http://articles.latimes.com/2012/jun/08/entertainment/la-et-ct-nexon-pays-687-million-for-14-percent-of-ncsoft-20120608

 

Looks like they want to do joint ventures - http://www.thisisgame.com/en/2012/11/02/mabinogi-2-is-the-first-joint-project-for-nexon-and-ncsoft  share the risk.

 

 

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  eyelolled

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11/24/12 1:09:25 PM#72
Originally posted by botrytis
Originally posted by eyelolled
Originally posted by just1opinion
Originally posted by Roxtarr

Am I the only one who things that the OP's post was just a 'clever' way to say that "Nexon took over and the game sucks now?"

 

 

I'm confused.  Are we getting Nexon and NCSoft confused?  So far as I've ever known, NCSoft is in this venture with ArenaNet, not Nexon.  Has that changed???

Back in June 8 of this year, Nexon bought $685 million in shares of NCsoft (I beleive that number is right) and they are now the largest shareholder in the company. ArenaNet has an agreement giving them certain control over the Guild Wars franchise because the technology used to  code GW is patented by the developers themselves, not Arenanet and therefore not NCsoft.

Can you show where they have control? I would like to read that.

 

 

I knew you were going to ask me that.  I remember reading it when they were talking about how they can update the servers while they are running, rather than have "patch tuesdays" where everything is taken down.  Someone had posted a link here but that was prerelease, and I would have to dig to find it.  Maybe some kind soul might know it, or be able to find it easier than me....

 

EDIT: I can only find the link to the patent http://www.freepatentsonline.com/y2012/0058827.html but not to the thread where they were discussing the ownership of the patents, and the liberties resulting from it.

All of my posts are either intelligent, thought provoking, funny, satirical, sarcastic or intentionally disrespectful. Take your pick.

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  FlawSGI

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11/24/12 1:17:56 PM#73
Originally posted by Tawn47
I think the MMORPG moderators should start shutting down the often repeated threads like this by people who clearly cannot read forum rules.   Did you honestly think you could write that stuff referring to particular members of staff and think it was a perfectly reasonable and acceptable post? 

Welcome to MMORPG.com, where the norm is to come in here and whine when you get shut down on other sites. For the record, I rarely use the GW2 site because I know they are heavy handed with their moderation so the few times I have posted I have made sure to stay in the ROC. It is not limited to GW2 either, I have seen people have these experiences when going to sites dedicated to one game. I have given my share of negative feedback on their site going back to beta testing and have yet to get an infraction. I can promise you that if I do, I won't go stand on a soapbox in another forum and shout my injustice to anyone who will listen.

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  cptndunsel

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11/24/12 4:24:24 PM#74

Pretty standard stuff - mods were cracking down on anything they perceived as a complaint prior to Lost Shores. Lost Shores was such a total pooch screw the mods had to allow ppl to vent for awhile so for a week or so we saw a lot of complaints in the forums, but many of these (including the massive merged one) are now deleted and its back to business as usual.

I suspect the nexon ppl have issued strict directives to nuke any threads calling them out in any fashion - this is where the game is headed now. I expect things to get worse before they get better - but then again a lot of players are leaving over the gear treadmill issue (true perception or not - ppl feel deceived) so perhaps only fanbois will be left in the near future in which case the GW2 forums will come to resemble The Secret World forums - nothing but love and praise.

  Shroom_Mage

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11/24/12 5:39:35 PM#75
For the OP, conspiracy threads aren't allowed. Plain and simple.

For most infractions, however, it's the result of outsourcing their moderation to non-English-speaking countries. You can see a lot of awkward wording if you look for it, in particular the repeated "We proceed now to lock the thread."

They have a lot of trouble understanding the context of posts. Generally, if you quote someone, they assume you're being aggressive. If your post contains even a simple "I disagree," you could get an infraction. The thing is, their moderation is also inconsistent, so you pretty much take your chances every time you address another user in any way.

"Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind." -Dr. Seuss

  rdrakken

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11/24/12 10:50:49 PM#76
Originally posted by LacedOpium

Would you like more?  We can do this all day if you want.

Let me give you a bit of advice, rookie.  Before coming on a forum proclaiming things you know nothing about, you would be well advised doing a bit of research before hand. 

*laughs some more*

 Let me give you a bit of advice, rookie. Before coming on a forum proclaiming things you know nothing about, you would be well advised doing a bit of research before hand. Perhaps that is why you keep linking proof Nexon ruins games by never actually talking about the games they have ruined, link to proof of games they have ruined...or even come close to staying on topic.

But I do thank you for the "company" review and a link where former employee's talk bad about them which we all know, is something to go by. Perhaps in your next post you can prove to me Nexon ruins games by giving a link to Nexons company christmas party where everyone was given a cheap $2 gift.

*would laugh more but instead died a little inside from the mass stupidity being shown by fellow humans*

  LacedOpium

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11/25/12 12:12:00 AM#77
Originally posted by rdrakken
Originally posted by LacedOpium

Would you like more?  We can do this all day if you want.

Let me give you a bit of advice, rookie.  Before coming on a forum proclaiming things you know nothing about, you would be well advised doing a bit of research before hand. 

*laughs some more*

 Let me give you a bit of advice, rookie. Before coming on a forum proclaiming things you know nothing about, you would be well advised doing a bit of research before hand. Perhaps that is why you keep linking proof Nexon ruins games by never actually talking about the games they have ruined, link to proof of games they have ruined...or even come close to staying on topic.

But I do thank you for the "company" review and a link where former employee's talk bad about them which we all know, is something to go by. Perhaps in your next post you can prove to me Nexon ruins games by giving a link to Nexons company christmas party where everyone was given a cheap $2 gift.

*would laugh more but instead died a little inside from the mass stupidity being shown by fellow humans*

You don't know when to give up, do you? Don't get me wrong, I do understand your dilemma in this situation.  You are so full of butthurt over this that you cannot seem to let it go, but your bigger problem right now is that the deeper you dig into this mess the sillier you come off looking.  It wouldn't be so bad for you if it weren't for the fact that all of the facts are so obviously against you.  I've provided you with link after link with hundreds of reviews of which when looked at in their totality, answer your very question ... and yet you persist. 

I'll tell you what, my friend.  The fact that you are wasting my time notwithstanding, I also happen to be a man of great compassion.  So here you go ...

Nexon is a great company!

How's that?  Feel better? 

Take care, little buddy.

 

Prettying-up wrong by dressing it up as opinion does not negate the fact that it is still wrong.

  Wickedjelly

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11/25/12 7:30:18 AM#78

Yes...simply shocking they would mod that.

>_>

<_<

Now pass the bong. Supposed to be puff, puff, give...

1. For god's sake mmo gamers, enough with the analogies. They're unnecessary and your comparisons are terrible, dissimilar, and illogical.

2. To posters feeling the need to state how f2p really isn't f2p: Players understand the concept. You aren't privy to some secret the rest are missing. You're embarrassing yourself.

3. Yes, Cpt. Obvious, we're not industry experts. Now run along and let the big people use the forums for their purpose.

  MosesZD

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11/25/12 6:09:29 PM#79
Originally posted by Normandy7
It is called damage control. This just proves even more there is no accountability from developers. 

 

lol, no.   If you post off-topic (which he did) they will move your posts.    If you post a thread off forum-subset, or call out ANet employees, they'll infract you and/or move your thread.    Especially if you're obviously concern trolling.

 

The forums are for the game, not some idiotic faux analysis of Nexon buying ANet shares or other stupid concern trolling crap.

 

Moral of the story is: Follow the rules and don't concern troll.

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11/25/12 6:15:44 PM#80
Originally posted by Roxtarr

Am I the only one who things that the OP's post was just a 'clever' way to say that "Nexon took over and the game sucks now?"

 

 

Yeah, it was a classic concern troll.   What I find amazing is that people, in this day and age, still get sucked into falling for that 'poor me, I did nothing wrong' crap when it comes to ANet (or frankly most developers).

 

So far it's been close to 100% poster being wrong.    

 

We've seen it with the guys and their macros -- "It's not botting!"    We've seen it with the racists, the bigots, the jerk-offs with their swearing and verbal abuse.    We've seen it with the people who use the same password EVERYWHERE and cry when they've been hacked.    With WoW we've seen them all swear it's Blizzard being hacked when their computers are full of trojans and keyloggers from the gold-sellers they bought gold from...

 

 

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