Originally posted by Roxtarr

Am I the only one who things that the OP's post was just a 'clever' way to say that "Nexon took over and the game sucks now?"

 

no you arent the only one. I do too. Developers like to say things in between words, so they know when players are speaking the same way.

Originally posted by Razperil

You broke their forum Code of Conduct, plain and simple. Opinions, etc, etc, etc, are all held accountable no matter if you think you did no wrong. These rules are in all forums so I suggest you read them again to make sure you do not receive another infracture.

P.S- Your opinion on your topic could have caused problems. You honestly do not know for sure if the original team is gone. You got what was due for doing it. Live with it like we all have when we get infractures, warnings,  and bans for having opinions as well. It's really good advice :)

Having a crazy overbearing code of conduct is no excuse.. for having a crazy overbearing code of conduct.  What else would the issue be?  That they infract people randomly?

Originally posted by madazz
If that is the whole story, than that is pretty bad.

no it's not.

Game forums are about discussing games. He essentially created an inflammatory post about arena net, NC Soft and the workings of the company.

I would have removed it as well.

Whats more tragic is the idea that you bought the marketing spiel from these people and are now disapointed with the end product so....somehow those people aren't running the game anymore? Someone got rid of them and their prue and noble ideas were corrupted? Or, honestly, are you just a victom of overhype and it's just too hard to believe these people promised something that didn't fufil your wildest expectations?

I'll give you something, thats a whole new spin on the GW2 deluded fanboy defense. 

Still a million times better than gw2guru forum, so yeah :D.

Why would a company want to leave negative posts on THEIR forum? Thats great for business!

God some people are just stupid. Like the OP.

Originally posted by Omnifish

Whats more tragic is the idea that you bought the marketing spiel from these people and are now disapointed with the end product so....somehow those people aren't running the game anymore? Someone got rid of them and their prue and noble ideas were corrupted? Or, honestly, are you just a victom of overhype and it's just too hard to believe these people promised something that didn't fufil your wildest expectations?

I'll give you something, thats a whole new spin on the GW2 deluded fanboy defense. 

Reminds me of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K%C3%BCbler-Ross_model

Denial stage?

Originally posted by niceguy3978

Originally posted by Vannor

Originally posted by botrytis

Read the YELLOW highlighted line - you called out staff and it got deleted and then banned. Plain and simple.

So that forum rule gives ANet to power to remove any post that even mentions the company or staff no matter what it's about, yeh that's much better. (psst, it's not really better, it's much worse; no more free speech).

If the OP did get that post deleted then it's bad. The post clearly shows they don't really know if the GW2 team is different for anyone that can actually read english. It was used as a way to exaggerate their point.. a way of saying 'this isn't the same game anymore'

Plus, the moderators notes don't even make any sense.. unless it was in the wrong section.

There is no free speech on forums, they are private entities not run by the government.  I promise, the government isn't going to prosecute him for calling out anet.

I know all that.. doesn't make it morally right though, which is the point.

Nexon a great company ? You probably have never had to deal with their support. I have an open ticket with them since  june 19th, that's 5 months and still no reply.  I updated my ticket once 2 months ago, and guess what they never even bothered to even reply to it. And i'm not the only one that has been having issue with such a long wait time. 

They might be the second biggest gaming company of the world but they still utterly fail, if Nexon has any say in how Anet and NcSoft are run I can predict a catastrophic customer service.

So yeah great company.

Originally posted by Vannor

Originally posted by niceguy3978

Originally posted by Vannor

Originally posted by botrytis

Read the YELLOW highlighted line - you called out staff and it got deleted and then banned. Plain and simple.

So that forum rule gives ANet to power to remove any post that even mentions the company or staff no matter what it's about, yeh that's much better. (psst, it's not really better, it's much worse; no more free speech).

If the OP did get that post deleted then it's bad. The post clearly shows they don't really know if the GW2 team is different for anyone that can actually read english. It was used as a way to exaggerate their point.. a way of saying 'this isn't the same game anymore'

Plus, the moderators notes don't even make any sense.. unless it was in the wrong section.

There is no free speech on forums, they are private entities not run by the government.  I promise, the government isn't going to prosecute him for calling out anet.

I know all that.. doesn't make it morally right though, which is the point.

good luck finding the "morally right" when it comes to big business, and that doesn't make them all evil either. 

A government has to give rights to people like the freedom of speech, as well as the inherint right to be mentally challenged. People can be stupid, dumb, confused, challenged, ignorant, bias, psychotic, depressed, niave, PMS'ing, or any of a laundry list of other mental states, and they still have a legal right to freedom of speech.

However, a company also has a legal right to maintain, remove, and edit the content which is put onto their website. As a matter of fact, they are obligated to. If their website is not removing racism (for example) they can suffer consequences for inaction.

So complaining about a company editing their website is silly and pointless. It's their party. You may have the right to speak, but you do not have the right to force people to listen, nor to use their medium to voice your opinion. It is a priveledge, not a right, to be able to post on anybody else's forums.

As for the OP's post, I would have removed it and flagged his account.  Bringing up an aquisition of shares that is 5 months old and representing it as a recent change in events is misleading. And then questioning the efforts of the employees and their direction, sure sounds like an attempt at disruption to me.

Originally posted by Pivotelite

Glad botrytis is the last person left defending GW2 and this company management is getting the heat it deserves.

 

I was banned twice and i've had a topic locked/deleted under "trolling" when it was about 2000 words and provided suggestions to make WvW better.

 

Is their WvW so good that me stating it has an un-countable number of flaws considered trolling to them? Can they not fathom that their game has problems?

What I was trying to point out - their forum, their rules. Don't want to follow them, get banned. It is pretty easy really.

Originally posted by biggarfoot

I was infractured for the post below and they swiftly deleted it.  This is what Anet has come to?  give an opinion whether I was correct in that opinion/thought doesnt really matter.  What really is annoying though is that they have threads on the first page that are probably a lot more provoking than what I created.  The Moderator note is even more laughable from my perspective.

 

 

 

 

Forum Moderator

 

 

This is an automated message. Your post in Original team not running this game anymore?was infracted.

Your original post in Original team not running this game anymore?:

I sat down and had some real thinking about recent events both ingame and in the forums. The severe lack of communication from both Colin and Brian and the recent sale of shares to Nexon in NCsoft. Nobody from Arenanet seems interested to put to bed players fears about hot subjects in the forums.

Would you think I’d be right in thinking then that Guild wars 2 is no longer controlled by the same people who brought us this game? Have Colin and Brian and their team been given a new project to work on, and that the game is now under the influence of someone from Nexon or some other body that has their own ideas and what they want to do with this game?

No need for tin foil hats on this one, just a general feel I have about this game now, and feel its going to go in a different direction that I was sold on, well it already has imo.

 

Moderator Notes:

 

Threads of this type are against our forum Code of Conduct. Please refrain from making such threads, as it does not assist members with support issues and concerns.

 

• The topic was moved.

If you believe you have received this infraction in error or wish to make an appeal, please send an e-mail to forums@arena.net.

 

EDIT: To be clear this was from the official Guildwars 2 forum not from other fan sites or MMORPG.com.

You named staff in your post - what did you expect would happen? People know who you are talking about - give it a rest.

You are not a martyr - you wanted to push buttins.

Originally posted by Randayn

I can't believe there are still people out there prepared to defend ANet.

Sure it's their forums, and sure there are rules, but good people break bad rules everyday.  The actual topic is much more important than the breaking of some arbitrary rule on a forum.

As for OP...sucks man...but nothing will come of the frustration gamers have with this game and company unless they fully ban the game and company.  Otherwise, it's business as usual.

Originally posted by NBlitz

Originally posted by Omnifish

Whats more tragic is the idea that you bought the marketing spiel from these people and are now disapointed with the end product so....somehow those people aren't running the game anymore? Someone got rid of them and their prue and noble ideas were corrupted? Or, honestly, are you just a victom of overhype and it's just too hard to believe these people promised something that didn't fufil your wildest expectations?

I'll give you something, thats a whole new spin on the GW2 deluded fanboy defense. 

Reminds me of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K%C3%BCbler-Ross_model

Denial stage?

Well lets hope those who are disapointed can, 'accept', the game for what it is and hold those responsible to account. Who knows, maybe in the future, the inital diagnosis might be wrong...:P

Originally posted by LacedOpium

What a bunch of hogwash.  Try typing "Nexon" in Urban Dictionary and see how many "Nexon is a great company" results you get.  I'll save you the trouble.  None.  They are just like, if not worse than EA.  They are going to ruin the MMORPG industry with their P2W cash shops, treadmills, and their overall greed. Mark my words.  

 What a bunch of hogwash. try typing "anything" in Urban dictionary and see how many "words match their meanings" and doesnt have some idiot tying in "derp durp" with the results you get.

Example, MMORPG page 5 "Otherwise known as nerds who need to get a life OUTSIDE of their computer rooms.
Often have trouble with women."

OMG, its on urban dictionary so it must be true!

But I do thank you for providing an actual example of something they did which should be easy if they are remotely close to EA...come on...one example...you can do it little nicky.

Oh looky....another Meme of the Month thread about GW2.

Just like on all the other threads complaining about posting things that are against their policies:  It's their forum, their rules.  If you break the rules on their forums, then you have to suffer the consequences.  While you or anyone else may not like those rules or punishments, or think they are unfair, their rules are their rules.

Here's an idea:  All of you who seem to have such a hard time using those forums within their rules, make up your own forum so you can complain and speculate about every little negative thing about the game or ArenaNet.  Oh, wait, that's why you come here....

Originally posted by rdrakken

Originally posted by LacedOpium

What a bunch of hogwash.  Try typing "Nexon" in Urban Dictionary and see how many "Nexon is a great company" results you get.  I'll save you the trouble.  None.  They are just like, if not worse than EA.  They are going to ruin the MMORPG industry with their P2W cash shops, treadmills, and their overall greed. Mark my words.  

 What a bunch of hogwash. try typing "anything" in Urban dictionary and see how many "words match their meanings" and doesnt have some idiot tying in "derp durp" with the results you get.

Example, MMORPG page 5 "Otherwise known as nerds who need to get a life OUTSIDE of their computer rooms.
Often have trouble with women."

OMG, its on urban dictionary so it must be true!

But I do thank you for providing an actual example of something they did which should be easy if they are remotely close to EA...come on...one example...you can do it little nicky.

*laughs*

Relax dude.  Your fanboism is disturbing.  Since that lil tidbit of reference wasn't good enough for you, how about a few Trustlink reviews?  Here I'll even provide you with the link ...

http://trustlink.org/Reviews/Nexon-America-Inc-205961941?nxid=15

If thats not good enough, how about a few reviews from Nexon's own employees.  Do you think they might know a bit more than you about the Nexon?  Here you go ...

http://www.glassdoor.com/Reviews/Nexon-Reviews-E143099.htm

Would you like more?  We can do this all day if you want.

Let me give you a bit of advice, rookie.  Before coming on a forum proclaiming things you know nothing about, you would be well advised doing a bit of research before hand. 

*laughs some more*