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  LacedOpium

Elite Member

Joined: 11/22/12
Posts: 470

11/23/12 9:55:16 AM#21
Originally posted by rdrakken

The topic has been done to death and I for one am glad they are finally deleting them.

Nexon is a great company, they have bought out MANY companies in the past and did not take creative control of the games from their makers yet...they are not EA. All Nexon is going to do is boost Anet with a ton of cash...you do know they are the second largest gaming company on the planet now right?

What a bunch of hogwash.  Try typing "Nexon" in Urban Dictionary and see how many "Nexon is a great company" results you get.  I'll save you the trouble.  None.  They are just like, if not worse than EA.  They are going to ruin the MMORPG industry with their P2W cash shops, treadmills, and their overall greed. Mark my words. 

To the topic of the GW2 forums.  I challenge anyone to post anything that does not agree with the recent change to post on their forum.  Those moderators are not only heavy-handed, they are abusive in their authority.  I have seen posts deleted for simply +1 other threads.  It can be as benign as simply disagreeing with another poster who sucked up to Anet.  It is unfathonable what is going on in those forums.  Bans are being dished out left and right at an alarming rate to decent paying customers who are simply voicing their displeasure, in a reasonably respectable manner, regarding recent changes.  Those of you posting in disbelief and attempting to defend Anet have no idea.  Stop defending this company.  They do not deserve it.  I, for one, will never spend another penny on anything with the names "Arena Net," "Nexon," or NCSoft" attached to them.

 

Prettying-up wrong by dressing it up as opinion does not negate the fact that it is still wrong.

  Pivotelite

Novice Member

Joined: 1/19/12
Posts: 2193

11/23/12 10:00:52 AM#22

Glad botrytis is the last person left defending GW2 and this company management is getting the heat it deserves.

 

I was banned twice and i've had a topic locked/deleted under "trolling" when it was about 2000 words and provided suggestions to make WvW better.

 

Is their WvW so good that me stating it has an un-countable number of flaws considered trolling to them? Can they not fathom that their game has problems?

  niceguy3978

Elite Member

Joined: 6/14/06
Posts: 1995

11/23/12 10:11:58 AM#23
Originally posted by Vannor
Originally posted by botrytis

Read the YELLOW highlighted line - you called out staff and it got deleted and then banned. Plain and simple.

So that forum rule gives ANet to power to remove any post that even mentions the company or staff no matter what it's about, yeh that's much better. (psst, it's not really better, it's much worse; no more free speech).

If the OP did get that post deleted then it's bad. The post clearly shows they don't really know if the GW2 team is different for anyone that can actually read english. It was used as a way to exaggerate their point.. a way of saying 'this isn't the same game anymore'

Plus, the moderators notes don't even make any sense.. unless it was in the wrong section.

There is no free speech on forums, they are private entities not run by the government.  I promise, the government isn't going to prosecute him for calling out anet.

  Gamayun

Novice Member

Joined: 9/24/10
Posts: 73

11/23/12 10:12:51 AM#24

I wrote and deleted a wall of text to save you the pain of quickly scrolling down. 

In my opinion the post is not a good reason the ban someone from the forums. biggarfoot, try to appeal. I'm not sure if it'll help, but it doesn't hurt to try. 

In the last 1/2 of the year, it seems there's been a paradigm shift inside the company, at least on some level, and it's gradually becoming more evident. The conceptual changes certainly don't look for the better to me, but if it's true that these changes are a consequence of the staff/investors' change, nothing good can come from hiding it. 

Good reputation is hard to build, easy to lose, and extremely hard to regain once it's lost. 

I'm not particularly optimistic about the current direction of the game, and the communication between the company and its customers.

  blackthornn

Novice Member

Joined: 7/31/04
Posts: 527

OMG I'm not temp banned again? WTF?? This day does end in Y right?

11/23/12 10:22:31 AM#25
Originally posted by madazz
Originally posted by fenistil
I wonder what mmorpg.com mean by "such threads".  I am of opinion that they should be more specific.

This wasn't posted here. The mods here are actually pretty awesome and have a high tolerance rate.

thanks. needed a lol today

  Kyleran

Bitter Vet™

Joined: 9/13/06
Posts: 19113

Fools find no pleasure in understanding, but delight in airing their own opinions. Pvbs 18:2, NIV

11/23/12 10:41:13 AM#26
Originally posted by Halandir
Originally posted by Kyleran

Edit: Did you follow their advice and send in an appeal of your moderation?

Erm... If/when he does that he will discover a whole new level of red tape.

Basically if you appeal given the link to an email (that you get with your infraction) you recieve a return email 10 minutes later with a link to NCSoft's support system and not ArenaNets. Difference being ArenaNet seems to usually respond within 24 hours - NCSoft: Somewhere between a week and infinity!

How do I know? Well I am waiting for a response.

I had the audacity to respond with: What???

When someone said Thanks ArenaNet (Was in the title but I doubt he got an infration) and proceeded to explain that he realized that ArenaNet were the developers behind CoX.

It was a complete surprise to me and I responded: What???

And OFC I promptly recieved an infraction...

And YES: What??? is worthy of an infraction on GW2 Forums... Talk about sensitive!

(Hint: Hit the links for an image of SS or it did not happen)

You seem to have overlooked the moderator's reply, that your comment "What?" was basically useless and off topic, and yes, such comments are moderated regularly on official company forums, which is why I normally hang around here instead.

 

Arrogant, Condescending, Dismissive, Elitist, you speak as if these are bad things?
Kyleran - Bitter Vet ™ since 2006
"This is the most intelligent, well qualified and articulate response to a post I have ever seen on these forums. It's a shame most people here won't have the attention span to read past the second line." - Anon

  Scalpless

Hard Core Member

Joined: 3/22/07
Posts: 1305

11/23/12 10:52:01 AM#27

Read the CoC before complaining.

  • Do not post petitions, “I demand an answer” threads, conspiracy threads, or comments about circumventing the rules.
...and you made a conspiracy thread.
  Kuppa

Novice Member

Joined: 9/24/10
Posts: 3443

The problem with censorship is ********

11/23/12 11:19:29 AM#28
So you make a conspiracy thread that won't really lead to any constructive conversation just unfounded speculation and then you come here and try to sell it as just an opinion.


  User Deleted
11/23/12 11:26:49 AM#29
Like others have said. Speculation based on what?

Speculating is fun but now is not the time. Especially on their official forums. Do it elsewhere ;-)
  n3v3rriv3r

Novice Member

Joined: 5/13/10
Posts: 323

11/23/12 11:27:08 AM#30
Originally posted by Kuppa
So you make a conspiracy thread that won't really lead to any constructive conversation just unfounded speculation and then you come here and try to sell it as just an opinion.

.. and then I read your signature and I am confused. copy/paste?

  Halandir

Apprentice Member

Joined: 8/02/08
Posts: 743

11/23/12 11:52:38 AM#31
Originally posted by Kyleran

You seem to have overlooked the moderator's reply, that your comment "What?" was basically useless and off topic, and yes, such comments are moderated regularly on official company forums, which is why I normally hang around here instead.

 

Hmm no. I saw the reason and it is their forum = their rules.

However I would probably also respond with: What? if someone in the WoW forums thanked the Blizzard team for giving us SWG.

If I was banned for that, I would just do like I did with this: Have a few laughs and shrug it off ;-)

 

We dont need casuals in our games!!! Errm... Well we DO need casuals to fund and populate our games - But the games should be all about "hardcore" because: We dont need casuals in our games!!!
(repeat ad infinitum)

  Corehaven

Novice Member

Joined: 7/27/11
Posts: 1574

I swear by my pretty floral bonnet, I will end you.

11/23/12 11:58:26 AM#32
There's been enough of this that I have not, and will not post on the GW2 forums.  I'll just post here thanks.  Sometimes I read links to the forums that are posted here which I appreciate, but I won't be participating over there.  It just sounds like too much trouble and not worth any frustration that might come of it. 
  greenreen

Advanced Member

Joined: 11/19/12
Posts: 1447

11/23/12 12:31:26 PM#33

I got an infraction for each of these posts on their forum. It really does seem like they pick out people that they think are "bad" and just randomly infract them, either that or their mods can't speak english, some suggested that one too. That if they can't speak english then they just delete and infract anything because someone reports it.

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Outmanned never scared IOJ, we'll be back... p.s. I have lots of candy corn stored now.
I was pretty impressed with the teamwork we had last night. Garrison being attacked by both sides by both competing
servers, one even got into inner gates. We demolished all of them then took out the tower trebbing us and repaired
all 4 damaged spots. If only we could keep our own team from taking the 395 supply that had built up lol Everyday
we have to go through WHY you want to leave supply in areas that need it. In time, I think everyone will know if
we keep explaining.

At one point someone saw 8+ golems being built in the South, I never did hear what happened to them.

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Update of numbers. 8:30am EST.
[screenshot image]

(this was me posting the server numbers during pvp matches, ppl do it as a service for other ppl that are at work to view the progress)


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It’s going to get a lot worse.

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Guildcast released a video about this too.
http://www.gamebreaker.tv/video-game-shows/guild-wars-video/guildcast-guild-wars-show/fear-the-gear-grind/

In case you haven't seen it.
They are usually level headed gamers so adding their feedback here.

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Another time I bumped this post because it had so much research and no responses and told them "thank you".
https://forum-en.guildwars2.com/forum/support/forum/An-in-depth-look-into-forum-bugs-issues-and-proposed-solutions-Includes-steps-to-reproduce
It also resulted in an infraction, now, you can see that the person still has no responses and bumped it
themselves but haven't received an infraction - it's inconsistent when it happens even though "bumping" is in the code of conduct as an offense.

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Another time I posted the 50th post in a thread because at 49 they can disappear and we were talking about pvp
back and forth, someone accused me of trying to "bury the conversation" even though I explained it to them.
That was an infraction for posting the 50th post trying to explain why I posted it. My guess is that the person reported it because until I explained the forum bug they thought I was "burying" our convo.
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Because of all my infractions - I am now permabanned. I simply don't think I deserved them all, some yes, not all. So I witness to you in dee church of "dey done did me wrongs". Can I get an amen. lol

Proof of ban. http://i48.tinypic.com/10hlw28.png

 

Here's one I linked before from a random stranger, your guess on why they got infracted, most of the time they get deleted but this one missed being deleted so you can see it.
https://forum-en.guildwars2.com/forum/game/gw2/Some-bot-screens-been-there-for-days

 

  Cod_Eye

Apprentice Member

Joined: 9/04/09
Posts: 1010

 
OP  11/23/12 12:35:39 PM#34
I never called any of their staff out, I simply implied/queried if they had moved on to new projects as they have not been heard from in a long time, and seems that Anet have not responded to any concerns that a lot of players have brought up, I understand that their policy says that staff and Anet should not be called out in making any posts, but it was a genuine query, and I thought it would get confirmation from moderators to that initial post, but no they just infracture me and delete the thread.  Seems to me they just don't give a To*s anymore, after all their beta events and interviews pre-launch teling us all how great their game is and that we will all love it, we couldnt get enough of them at the time.
  User Deleted
11/23/12 12:39:38 PM#35
" but it was a genuine query,
and I thought it would get confirmation from
moderators to that initial post,"
WHAT? You cannot possibly be serious. Can you see how naive this sounds?
  achesoma

Apprentice Member

Joined: 5/05/05
Posts: 959

11/23/12 12:39:39 PM#36
Doesn't surprise me.  Remember, Anet never really wanted official forums to begin with.  Must be some truth to your post.

  rastapastor

Hard Core Member

Joined: 3/16/12
Posts: 136

11/23/12 12:52:26 PM#37

You are not the only one who was infracted for sharing thoughts, pointing out what u dont like etc, They just don't like bad opinions. If u wrote u love the game and ArenaNet, the topic would still float there. As much as i like the game (well after introducing Ascended gear not so much as before) i hate ArenaNet behaviour. Yes they should close troll threads, but they also closed a lot of good threads with good feedback. Anyways, I just stopped to visit their forums, to not curse my blood anymore with their actions. I'll just stick to the game and see what steps will they make, if take more trademil route or (GOD PLEASE NO) they introduce trademil to PvP, i'll just quit. 

 

I never was a fanboy, i liked the concept of the game, but unfortunately they forsaken their philosophy and took the bad path, that other failure MMOs have taken...the standard MMO route ;), very very dark future.

  Slampig

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Joined: 12/29/03
Posts: 2393

Whatever you do, do NOT speak ill of Asheron's Call 2...

11/23/12 12:54:10 PM#38
Originally posted by biggarfoot

I was infractured for the post below and they swiftly deleted it.  This is what Anet has come to?  give an opinion whether I was correct in that opinion/thought doesnt really matter.  What really is annoying though is that they have threads on the first page that are probably a lot more provoking than what I created.  The Moderator note is even more laughable from my perspective.

 

 

 

 

Forum Moderator

 

 

This is an automated message. Your post in Original team not running this game anymore?was infracted.

Your original post in Original team not running this game anymore?:

I sat down and had some real thinking about recent events both ingame and in the forums. The severe lack of communication from both Colin and Brian and the recent sale of shares to Nexon in NCsoft. Nobody from Arenanet seems interested to put to bed players fears about hot subjects in the forums.

Would you think I’d be right in thinking then that Guild wars 2 is no longer controlled by the same people who brought us this game? Have Colin and Brian and their team been given a new project to work on, and that the game is now under the influence of someone from Nexon or some other body that has their own ideas and what they want to do with this game?

No need for tin foil hats on this one, just a general feel I have about this game now, and feel its going to go in a different direction that I was sold on, well it already has imo.

 

Moderator Notes:

 

Threads of this type are against our forum Code of Conduct. Please refrain from making such threads, as it does not assist members with support issues and concerns.

 

  • The topic was moved.

If you believe you have received this infraction in error or wish to make an appeal, please send an e-mail to forums@arena.net.

 

EDIT: To be clear this was from the official Guildwars 2 forum not from other fan sites or MMORPG.com.

And the problem is...?

That Guild Wars 2 login screen knocked up my wife. Must be the second coming!

  Torgrim

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Joined: 12/15/05
Posts: 2154

11/23/12 2:31:03 PM#39
Originally posted by botrytis


  • Do not engage in staff call-outs. Using the words “ArenaNet” or any staff member’s name will not expedite the answer to your query.

 

On page 2 you can read this and still people are bickering on to page 4.

OP did in fact called out the staff members by name.

 

 

If it's not broken, you are not innovating.

  User Deleted
11/23/12 2:45:25 PM#40

I can't believe there are still people out there prepared to defend ANet.

Sure it's their forums, and sure there are rules, but good people break bad rules everyday.  The actual topic is much more important than the breaking of some arbitrary rule on a forum.

As for OP...sucks man...but nothing will come of the frustration gamers have with this game and company unless they fully ban the game and company.  Otherwise, it's business as usual.

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