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  Aeolron

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11/22/12 10:35:35 AM#21
Originally posted by binkus

let me also try another tack

you play the game you have your toon locked to your server. you have equiped him and he/she is special to you

you have invested $200 in a years time, now you find your server is constantly 500 peoples queing for the game... you either buy membership at more $ ...even though you have put in a bit of cash already OR you start from scratch on a server you can get into?

 

sound fair?

this is not free to play the free players just prompt more people to buy membership to bypass them.

 

 

 

 

How about stop being cheap and pony up the 14.99 a month? The game was given to all for FREE, you don't need to pay a DIME!

Man , I wish MMO's were ALL still pay to play , when they went FTP we got all the people who think they deserve everything for free,  it's people like myself , who pay a monthly that make games like this live, people like you make em die , stick to consoles.

  ellobo29

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11/22/12 10:37:53 AM#22
These types of threads always come from those that dont understand the so called "free" to play model and have gotten burned .... maybe im just used to it from playing games from NEXON or GAMIGO or others but with any FTP i never throw down cash on the table unless i have been playing for about a year. 99% of the time you spend the money and then after you think..... "god why did i just do that".

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  User Deleted
11/22/12 10:40:13 AM#23

If SOE really was so greedy on this case,they would allow server swapping for cash.

Edit: and people could keep all their items all their upgrades and SOE could make some nice amounts of cash but game would be ruined.

 

 

  Aeolron

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11/22/12 10:41:35 AM#24
Originally posted by ForumPvP

If SOE really was so greedy on this case,they would allow server swapping for cash.

 

Exacly! And charge a box fee on top of that.

  User Deleted
11/22/12 10:43:28 AM#25
Originally posted by Aeolron
Originally posted by ForumPvP

If SOE really was so greedy on this case,they would allow server swapping for cash.

 

Exacly! And charge a box fee on top of that.

exactly!

  binkus

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OP  11/22/12 10:43:33 AM#26
Originally posted by LizardEgypt
[mod edit]
[mod edit]

 

to others: 

 

My complaints 

 

I paid for Alpha squad

I paid for membership 

have the cash, will play the game - 

 

I am complaining that i cannot switch server with my character: if:

server goes down

server population is massive

server population is 100 vs 2

my buddies are on a different server

f2p is a joke for the guys who want to play f2p

 

my main complaint is that the billing department despite flaws do not recognise this and will not unlock or refund 700 SC as a goodwill gesture so as a company i am customer of 6+ years for them to say no to $7 which they will get back anyway! because it is in SC!! refund to my account

would not recommend this game to anyone if they want to put money in

 

 

 

 

nerf scissors! rock is fine...
yours paper

  Aeolron

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11/22/12 10:49:39 AM#27
Originally posted by binkus
Originally posted by LizardEgypt
[mod edit]

[mod edit]

 

 

to others: 

 

My complaints 

 

I paid for Alpha squad

I paid for membership 

have the cash, will play the game - 

 

I am complaining that i cannot switch server with my character: if:

server goes down

server population is massive

server population is 100 vs 2

my buddies are on a different server

f2p is a joke for the guys who want to play f2p

 

my main complaint is that the billing department despite flaws do not recognise this and will not unlock or refund 700 SC as a goodwill gesture so as a company i am customer of 6+ years for them to say no to $7 which they will get back anyway! because it is in SC!! refund to my account

would not recommend this game to anyone if they want to put money in

 

 

 

 

I see where you are getting at and maybe some day soon SOE will add transfer , paid of course.

Keep in mind the game just launched , and about the greed thing , I played all the mmos SOE every released since 1998 EQ beta, and not once has SOE ever steered me wrong. I did a mistake in EQ2 cash shop and they refunded me no problem, Hell just recently I got a refund for a item I bought by mistake in PS2 , but I reported it fast and my issue was satisfied completely.

Anyone who enjoys mmos and FPS would really like this game ,it is fun and addictive , give it a shot !

  Loktofeit

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11/22/12 11:06:24 AM#28
Originally posted by binkus

For those people who quote free to play

the queue is 500+ people unless you have premium membership, which is in addition to any other purchases you might have and a recurring monthly payment.

you might aswell go wash the car or do the dishes

free to play is a joke, you will queue for an hour, when you have queued for an hour it will then boot you for being innactive if you did not move the mouse every 5 minutes

scoffs* at f2p .. you want to play this game...you ....will....pay

those who think it is server bound - you log in account create character on server - you cannot change that server - if you unlock a helmet at $5 it is locked to that character not on the servers you might want to play with your buddies on

they are turning the games industries into a competition for rapid cash grabs and not about the games themselves

lets hope your server never goes down otherwise you might have to play another character sadly illequiped

Hour queue on release day? That's not a F2P specific thing. Welcome to what's obviously your first MMO release.

Regarding your other complaints, which you attribute to SOE's greed and the F2P game model, which subscription MMOs let you transfer characters and gear between servers for free? There's one that recently offered something like that (Tera?) but it is definitely not the norm. If you want to play on the servers your buddy is on you usually have to pony up some cash to do it, often to the tune of 20-25 USD.

I'm not seeing what your rage is all about or how anything you presented is a 'rapid cash grab'.

 

  Gruug

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11/22/12 11:22:58 AM#29

All I can say is that people are finely getting it that the "free" part of "Free to play" is not what is hyped up to be. NO GAME, that bills itself as FREE is actually that. Now, if you wish to play any game for free you will have to do it THEIR WAY. That means they are going to try to recoupe what it costs to make the game, run the game and any other expenses. If you think that because you just don't want to pay that you should be given everything for nothing....then you have a problem.

 

Let's party like it is 1863!

  binkus

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Joined: 7/18/07
Posts: 54

 
OP  11/22/12 12:10:56 PM#30

well everyone thanks for the posts

 

heed the warning or not, might pop back in a year or two

 

unless they change they will crash and burn

 

been right before might be right again who knows

nerf scissors! rock is fine...
yours paper

  jonesing22

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11/22/12 12:23:42 PM#31
Originally posted by binkus

i was so pant wettingly excited by Planetside 2

after over 6 years of custom from myself the shambles of their billing account based payments for the recent planetside 2

SOE and I are parting ways

there is a movement from players about the billing and the payment methods and unlocks that makes this game a complete cash grab

 

i find it offensive to have contributed to it, however i will no longer be a customer of Sony because of this

 

if you play the game and put cash in you will know what i mean

note to those who try 

 

never try and change server! you pick for good if you invest cash you want to use again

 

 

 

 

OH NO! a company wants you to pay money to use it's product. blasphemy

 

  kevjards

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11/22/12 12:31:53 PM#32
Originally posted by binkus

i was so pant wettingly excited by Planetside 2

after over 6 years of custom from myself the shambles of their billing account based payments for the recent planetside 2

SOE and I are parting ways

there is a movement from players about the billing and the payment methods and unlocks that makes this game a complete cash grab

 

i find it offensive to have contributed to it, however i will no longer be a customer of Sony because of this

 

if you play the game and put cash in you will know what i mean

note to those who try 

 

never try and change server! you pick for good if you invest cash you want to use again

 

 

 

 

this is a joke ..right? they give you a game at no cost where other companies charge you full price and you complain about greed.there is only one person being greedy and expecting everything for nothing here.you may want to remember it cost companies a lot of money to develop games and they do have to recoup their money somehow.i,m no great fan of soe but this really takes the piss tbh.you should find yourself lucky like most that they didnt charge you in advance for the game..now you can leave the game knowing you have'nt spent a penny on it.

  Sutex

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Joined: 12/17/03
Posts: 151

11/22/12 12:33:30 PM#33

It is one of the best F2P games i have ever played. Sure there was a que when i tried to log in last night, i waited a whole 2 mins. The game is running smooth for me and there are no forced things to buy.

I do wish I gained cert points a little faster.

  Sovrath

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11/22/12 12:37:45 PM#34
Originally posted by binkus

 

my main complaint is that the billing department despite flaws do not recognise this and will not unlock or refund 700 SC as a goodwill gesture so as a company i am customer of 6+ years for them to say no to $7 which they will get back anyway! because it is in SC!! refund to my account

would not recommend this game to anyone if they want to put money in

 

 

 

 

So you are complaining about $7.

7

dollars.

Which you will make back anyway.

  TeknoBug

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Posts: 2166

11/22/12 1:07:38 PM#35

Greed? You know nothing of greed if you think SOE's greedy with PS2, you should try SWTOR. Everything in PS2 game is obtainable ingame without cash, although many are expensive on certs (1000 certs for many weapons).


In SWTOR at level 50 it's almost unplayble without the extra quickbars and you need to pay to unlock the title, hide helmet slot, access your own bank and guild bank, expand your inventory and only capped to 350K credits.


... greed.


  mikecackle

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11/22/12 1:53:15 PM#36
Originally posted by binkus

i was so pant wettingly excited by Planetside 2

after over 6 years of custom from myself the shambles of their billing account based payments for the recent planetside 2

SOE and I are parting ways

there is a movement from players about the billing and the payment methods and unlocks that makes this game a complete cash grab

 

i find it offensive to have contributed to it, however i will no longer be a customer of Sony because of this

 

if you play the game and put cash in you will know what i mean

note to those who try 

 

never try and change server! you pick for good if you invest cash you want to use again

 

 

 

 

Its because of messages like this why SOE has a no refund policy.... Glad you have awoken.

 

  User Deleted
11/22/12 2:01:57 PM#37
Originally posted by binkus

For those people who quote free to play

 

the queue is 500+ people unless you have premium membership, which is in addition to any other purchases you might have and a recurring monthly payment.

 

Server queues?

I've logged in supposedly one of the very high/full servers last night and there wasn't one. Crashed several times due to a OS setting on my end, but still never had to wait logging back in.

  mikecackle

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I'm a player not a gamer.

11/22/12 2:02:26 PM#38
Originally posted by jonesing22
Originally posted by binkus

i was so pant wettingly excited by Planetside 2

after over 6 years of custom from myself the shambles of their billing account based payments for the recent planetside 2

SOE and I are parting ways

there is a movement from players about the billing and the payment methods and unlocks that makes this game a complete cash grab

 

i find it offensive to have contributed to it, however i will no longer be a customer of Sony because of this

 

if you play the game and put cash in you will know what i mean

note to those who try 

 

never try and change server! you pick for good if you invest cash you want to use again

 

 

 

 

OH NO! a company wants you to pay money to use it's product. blasphemy

 

That's not what it's about.. It's an illusion to force the payment...

A. Take a crap game...

B. Remove all power from game and make it pay to unlock power

C. Launch Hype Campaign

This forces players into wanting to enjoy themselves, then they quickly learn.. to enjoy themselves they must bang their heads against their keyboards for weeks and months to get a few unlocks, or pay

Then they pay and realize what A was (A crap game) and are stuck with nothing but a bad feeling. Its their bad feeling, so they have a right to whine that they don't like this concept.

Planetside 2 was an okay game in early beta which changed by horrible develpoers who really just grew tired of the failures they were involved in. You can go back and watch me talki on their forums, at first a fan boy making incredible strategic guides and tactical group leader in a huge guild to quitting the guild and drastically slamming them to the curb for the choices they made which turned the game into a complete piece of trash. One day I was streaming this game 16 hours a day to the internet, just week or so later, I was messaging their twitter system how to get a refund for alpha squad because they have massively altereted the game and lost total vision of what they were creating. 

It's nothing but a quick money grab off old IP, companies continue to rinse and repeat, and they dont care about the gamer, so it's time we quit caring about the companies behind them.

 

And when you contradict this message, just remember, PS2 was heavily promoted EARLY as NON PAY TO WIN, with only unlocks that would ugh be cosmestic and supportive... Yeah right.. That changes when you as a publisher realize you have a crap game...

To top it off, i have been asking for a refund just 3 days after alpha squad was released where i got suckered in and then the bait and switch game changes started.. I have messages to Twitter, asking who to contact.. I have videos of going into the support system wher eits broken and you can not even sumbmit a support ticket, to finally a rep who said to contact some chump tuttle, who is their slackey who has no compassion and is a bouncer to deny any refund request, and will ignore anything else but Sorry, no refund responses. Why are they acting like this? FINANCIAL LOSS.. Their days look numbered

 

 

 

 

  Siveria

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11/22/12 2:08:31 PM#39
Yeah I played a bit of Ps2, and I checked out the unlocks, the game is totally pay2win if you want to get anything unlocked anytime soonish. This is nothing new though, all f2p games are: free to play, pay to enjoy pretty much, if unlocks weren't cash shop buyable they would probally have needed MUCH less certs to obtain, the reason they need so many is to force some players to pay with station cash for them. Just remember no matter what the f2p game site says, the game usually is pay2win they just try to hide it usually. Personally I think Ps2 kinda sucks because the entire game is totally pointless, there is no real point to the game at all, and the balance is horrid, the purple guys with the laser weapons are brokely op, due to 0 bullet drop at all and the fact when they fire the shot hits near instantly so its way to accurite, and they get the best defense to boot, and their damage is fairly high as well. My friends play NC and they kinda suck tbh.

Being a pessimist is a win-win pattern of thinking. If you're a pessimist (I'll admit that I am!) you're either:

A. Proven right (if something bad happens)

or

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Either way, you can't lose! Try it out sometime!

  tank017

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11/22/12 2:08:47 PM#40

They have to make a profit off their product somehow..

 

So far ive seen that I can get every upgrade and weapon through actually playing the game through cert points..

 

 

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