Originally posted by wordiz
Horrible game. Period. There's nothing MMO about it, so I have no idea why it's even on this site. All I see is a stupid game for FPS kids (as in babies, children, 12 year olds) that don't have the attention span to play a real game. I tried it, hated the FPS mechanics, the lagging engine, the crappy UI, the horribad map system. Isn't there an FPS site that you clowns and COD fanboys can populate? Please drag this rancid corpse of a game with you. Ithankyou.

Could you recommend me an (MMO)FPS that is not for kids (as in babies, children, 12 year olds)? Now, I'm only 22, but I believe I have the attention span to play a REAL game (as opposed to any fake one). 

Originally posted by Raserei

8gigs ram

quad core 2.8ghz

Windows 7

5770 HD ATI Radeon 

 

Worse computer then yours and I run at medium 30-60 FPS.... 30 FPS when I'm in a large scale battle. Human eye can only see 30 FPS, good times.

 

Have you tried game booster? HAve you tried tweaking windows?

Wrong. The average human eye can see 60 FPS. Many humans can actually see passed that though, and into the 80 FPS range. 

Planetside 2 has a far way to go before it is fully optimized, but it's already very playable. I didn't play PS1 but I love shooters and I play some BF3 here and there. I'm having a blast in PS2! I'm thinking about subbing. I don't see myself playing BF3 for a loong time.

AMD Athlon 64x2 2.6ghz

2gb ram

9400GT

Windows XP

500PSU

Average 30 FPS on PS2 on medium settings.

When I hear things like, "My I7 comp ain't that great" I am confused, so if I upgrade to an I7 I will not get that big of a performance increase?????  Computers confuse me.

Originally posted by Drolkin

AMD Athlon 64x2 2.6ghz

2gb ram

9400GT

Windows XP

500PSU

Average 30 FPS on PS2 on medium settings.

 

When I hear things like, "My I7 comp ain't that great" I am confused, so if I upgrade to an I7 I will not get that big of a performance increase?????  Computers confuse me.

 

People saying an i7 is not great, have absolutely no clue what they are talking about. Even the cheapest i7 absolutely dominates the new 8 core (4 module...) Piledriver AMD CPUs. You will see a HUGE performance gain coming from an Athlon 64x2. It will be night and day. Also, you need a new graphics card. Even one of the cheaper ones like a GT640 would suffice. But I highly recommend getting something like a GTX 570 or Radeon 7870 at the very minimum. Those cards are dropping around to $200 these days. 

Originally posted by ThumbtackJ

Originally posted by wordiz
Horrible game. Period. There's nothing MMO about it, so I have no idea why it's even on this site. All I see is a stupid game for FPS kids (as in babies, children, 12 year olds) that don't have the attention span to play a real game. I tried it, hated the FPS mechanics, the lagging engine, the crappy UI, the horribad map system. Isn't there an FPS site that you clowns and COD fanboys can populate? Please drag this rancid corpse of a game with you. Ithankyou.

Could you recommend me an (MMO)FPS that is not for kids (as in babies, children, 12 year olds)? Now, I'm only 22, but I believe I have the attention span to play a REAL game (as opposed to any fake one). 

You're asking the wrong guy.

I have'nt gotten behind a shooter since CS 1.6, and pretty much lost all hope in the genre after the 3rd iteration of CoD. Gratuitous, senseless violence, relentless trigger pulling, all topped off with some good ol fashion war propaganda, such as the stabs at groups like Anonymous in the new Black Ops. I like my brain how it is thanks, I also like the natural reaction of nausea that I feel when I see somebody cut down by bullets ( a reaction, I'm sure, that many FPS players no longer have.) So, in my opinion, anyone that is a shooter fan is either a bandwagoneer, a child with low standards and attention span, a desensitized violent zombie or a combination of the three.

I understand the MMO aspect making a shooter larger and more epic, but don't understand why it would be on this site just because it's massive and multiplayer. 

I'd tell you to check out Firefall, but it looks pretty cartoony and Borderlandish, and it's made by someone who worked for Blizzard on WoW.

To my knowledge there aren't any good MMOFPS's yet.

Originally posted by wordiz
Horrible game. Period. There's nothing MMORPG about it, so I have no idea why it's even on this site. All I see is a stupid game for FPS kids (as in babies, children, 12 year olds) that don't have the attention span to play a real game. I tried it, hated the FPS mechanics, the lagging engine, the crappy UI, the horribad map system. Isn't there an FPS site that you clowns and COD fanboys can populate? Please drag this rancid corpse of a game with you. Ithankyou.

You have a disturbing and irrational hatred for shooters. The game never claims to be an MMORPG, however it is an MMO since, you know, it is massively multiplayer. I fail to see how FPS's are for children, or for people with short attenion spans since nearly every single one of them are marketed towards adults. Please provide an example of what a "real game" is, are you referring to WoW? SWTOR perhaps? Maybe even Hello Kitty Online? By your logic since I enjoy Halo and TF2 I'm obviously a 12 year old COD fanboy. I mean TF2 and COD are practically the same game since they are both shooters, just like every single mmo is a WoW clone, espically EvE and Darkfall.

edit: annoying typo

Originally posted by Krashner

Originally posted by wordiz
Horrible game. Period. There's nothing MMORPG about it, so I have no idea why it's even on this site. All I see is a stupid game for FPS kids (as in babies, children, 12 year olds) that don't have the attention span to play a real game. I tried it, hated the FPS mechanics, the lagging engine, the crappy UI, the horribad map system. Isn't there an FPS site that you clowns and COD fanboys can populate? Please drag this rancid corpse of a game with you. Ithankyou.

You have a disturbing and irrational hatred for shooters. The game never claims to be an MMORPG, however it is an MMO since, you know, it is massively multiplayer. I fail to see how FPS's are for children, or for people with short attenion spans since nearly every single one of them are marketed towards adults. Please provide an example of what a "real game" is, are you refferring to WoW? SWTOR perhaps? Maybe even Hello Kitty Online? By your logic since I enjoy Halo and TF2 I'm obviously a 12 year old COD fanboy. I mean TF2 and COD are practically the same game since they are both shooters, just like every single mmo is a WoW clone, espically EvE and Darkfall.

I'd respond to all points, but you saying that Eve and Darkfall are WoW clones just killed you where you stand.  Just for clarification, when I say kids or children or babies, I'm talking about mentality, or simple mindedness, easy to please, distracted by handclaps but cracked out on killing. 

As far as real games? I dunno, it sure has been a while.

Originally posted by ShakyMo
The human eye works at around 40-45 fps.

That is why films are made at that frame rate.

Films are made @ 24 fps bud.

Originally posted by wordiz

Originally posted by Krashner

Originally posted by wordiz
Horrible game. Period. There's nothing MMORPG about it, so I have no idea why it's even on this site. All I see is a stupid game for FPS kids (as in babies, children, 12 year olds) that don't have the attention span to play a real game. I tried it, hated the FPS mechanics, the lagging engine, the crappy UI, the horribad map system. Isn't there an FPS site that you clowns and COD fanboys can populate? Please drag this rancid corpse of a game with you. Ithankyou.

You have a disturbing and irrational hatred for shooters. The game never claims to be an MMORPG, however it is an MMO since, you know, it is massively multiplayer. I fail to see how FPS's are for children, or for people with short attenion spans since nearly every single one of them are marketed towards adults. Please provide an example of what a "real game" is, are you referring to WoW? SWTOR perhaps? Maybe even Hello Kitty Online? By your logic since I enjoy Halo and TF2 I'm obviously a 12 year old COD fanboy. I mean TF2 and COD are practically the same game since they are both shooters, just like every single mmo is a WoW clone, espically EvE and Darkfall.

I'd respond to all points, but you saying that Eve and Darkfall are WoW clones just killed you where you stand. As far as real games? I dunno, it sure has been a while.

Sarcasm, it starts at "by your logic" and ends at "darkfall."

edit: annoying typoe

Originally posted by ShakyMo
The human eye works at around 40-45 fps.

That is why films are made at that frame rate.

Here's an excerpt:

"A frame or scene on a computer is first setup by your video card in a frame buffer. The frame/image is then sent to the RAMDAC (Random Access Memory Digital-Analog-Convertor) for final display on your display device. Liquid Crystal Displays, and FPD Plasma displays use a higher quality strictly digital representation, so the transfer of information, in this case a scene is much quicker. After the scene has been sent to the monitor it is perfectly rendered and displayed. One thing is missing however, the faster you do this, and the more frames you plan on sending to the screen per second, the better your hardware needs to be. Computer Programmers and Computer Game Developers which have been working strictly with Computers can't reproduce motion blur in these scenes. Even though 30 Frames are displaying per second the scenes don't look as smooth as on a TV. Well that is until we get to more than 30 FPS.

  NVIDIA a computer video card maker who recently purchased 3dFx another computer video card maker just finished a GPU (Graphics Processing Unit) for the XBOX from Microsoft. Increasing amounts of rendering capabilities and memory as well as more transistors and instructions per second equate to more frames per second in a Computer Video Game or on Computer Displays in general. There is no motion blur, so the transition from frame to frame is not as smooth as in movies, that is at 30 FPS. In example, NVIDIA/3dfx put out a demo that runs half the screen at 30 fps, and the other half at 60 fps. The results? - there is a definite difference between the two scenes; 60 fps looking much better and smoother than the 30 fps."

Basically, frames are rendered differently in movies and television. They use a motion blurring technique which allows the brain to perceive the 30 fps as being smooth. In games the frames are rendered differently from you video card. The lack of blurring makes 30 fps look very laggy compared to 60 fps. So yes, in games the more fps the better. If you are able to get more than 60 fps you will still be able to notice the difference. This "you can't see more than 30 fps on screen" is complete nonsense and only applies to movies/television. 

Source: http://amo.net/NT/02-21-01FPS.html

what other mmofps?!?!

there are no other mmofps. there is darkfall and planetside 2. even planetside 1 was not massive.

Long time lurker, first time poster. I thought i'd share what PS2 could become, if supported.

"What are your plans for the future?

First off, we have a 3 year plan. That's really big. We plan on putting that out to the users at some point in the near future. This isn't some "vision" we plan on imparting on our players. It's our thoughts on what we think would be cool. We will listen to our users feedback and make changes based on that feedback. We think we have some killer ideas but our players have pretty good ones too! I want to be super clear here - these are just some of the ideas. The team has a ton.

Here are just a few cornerstone ideas we are considering. I want to be crystal clear and say that these are NOT promises these are ideas.. some of which may be canned. That thinking can change. It can even change fast. I just want you to understand we are looking to support this game for a very long time and add a lot of features to it.

1) Player Owned bases - we plan on releasing continents that are empty or partially empty where players can build their own bases. These are open world bases so others will be able to attack them. We're also planning on having these continents heavily resource based with new resource types that will be very rare..and lots of cool new stuff that can be built out of these new resources.

2) Harvestable resources - imagine SC II style resource harvesting with physical vehicles doing the mining or the harvesting.

3) Water between continents - seamlessly - this is really hard tech, but our goal is to make the whole planet seamless and allow water based vehicles.

4) Lots more vehicles and weapons - just what it sounds like. Many of these will take very rare resources to make.

5) NPC enemies - I don't want to call this PVE. That's not exactly what we have in mind. More like a global invasion that goes after everybody. This isn't a bunch of quest givers saying "go kill 10 rats" - this is bad ass aliens that want to gut you.

6) NPC armies - imagine as the commander of a base sending an NPC army towards another base MOBA style except it's in the middle of the Planetside 2. This isn't another game mode. It's all part of the same game.

7) Esports support - we plan on doing this pretty soon after launch. We plan on making this a big big thing and putting a lot of our resources behind it.

8) Weather

9) Mac version (soon after launch).

Like I said - some of these are just ideas.. some are already planned for the near term. Expect us to lay this out clearly and expect this soon.

Thanks and I hope this gives you some things to think about

Smed"

Source - http://john-smedley.livejournal.com/2412.html

Originally posted by Consensus

what other mmofps?!?!

 

there are no other mmofps. there is darkfall and planetside 2. even planetside 1 was not massive.

darkfail wasnt really a mmofps, but planetside 1 was definitely an MMOFPS, if you had done even a little research on it, that should be obvious.

Originally posted by Jimmyzzz

Long time lurker, first time poster. I thought i'd share what PS2 could become, if supported.

 

 

"What are your plans for the future?

First off, we have a 3 year plan. That's really big. We plan on putting that out to the users at some point in the near future. This isn't some "vision" we plan on imparting on our players. It's our thoughts on what we think would be cool. We will listen to our users feedback and make changes based on that feedback. We think we have some killer ideas but our players have pretty good ones too! I want to be super clear here - these are just some of the ideas. The team has a ton.

Here are just a few cornerstone ideas we are considering. I want to be crystal clear and say that these are NOT promises these are ideas.. some of which may be canned. That thinking can change. It can even change fast. I just want you to understand we are looking to support this game for a very long time and add a lot of features to it.

1) Player Owned bases - we plan on releasing continents that are empty or partially empty where players can build their own bases. These are open world bases so others will be able to attack them. We're also planning on having these continents heavily resource based with new resource types that will be very rare..and lots of cool new stuff that can be built out of these new resources.

2) Harvestable resources - imagine SC II style resource harvesting with physical vehicles doing the mining or the harvesting.

3) Water between continents - seamlessly - this is really hard tech, but our goal is to make the whole planet seamless and allow water based vehicles.

4) Lots more vehicles and weapons - just what it sounds like. Many of these will take very rare resources to make.

5) NPC enemies - I don't want to call this PVE. That's not exactly what we have in mind. More like a global invasion that goes after everybody. This isn't a bunch of quest givers saying "go kill 10 rats" - this is bad ass aliens that want to gut you.

6) NPC armies - imagine as the commander of a base sending an NPC army towards another base MOBA style except it's in the middle of the Planetside 2. This isn't another game mode. It's all part of the same game.

7) Esports support - we plan on doing this pretty soon after launch. We plan on making this a big big thing and putting a lot of our resources behind it.

8) Weather

9) Mac version (soon after launch).

Like I said - some of these are just ideas.. some are already planned for the near term. Expect us to lay this out clearly and expect this soon.

Thanks and I hope this gives you some things to think about

Smed"

 

 

Source - http://john-smedley.livejournal.com/2412.html

It's a very old blogplost and a lot of stuff he was talking about, was scrapped! Like the ingame currency. Now you have to use precious cert points to unlock weapons. He has also not posted anymore ever since lol.

This is exactly the stuff I am talking about and why the game has been released way too soon.

In a game like this, player owned bases, rare resources to fight over, harvesters, etc should have been in at launch!

Now... by the time they get this stuff in the game, most people will have grown bored of the game and moved on. Turning the game in another ghost town like PS1, where fights are hard to find. :-(

As right now, the only thing to do ingame is base flipping. Day after day after day after day. /shrug

Originally posted by wordiz

Originally posted by Krashner

Originally posted by wordiz
Horrible game. Period. There's nothing MMORPG about it, so I have no idea why it's even on this site. All I see is a stupid game for FPS kids (as in babies, children, 12 year olds) that don't have the attention span to play a real game. I tried it, hated the FPS mechanics, the lagging engine, the crappy UI, the horribad map system. Isn't there an FPS site that you clowns and COD fanboys can populate? Please drag this rancid corpse of a game with you. Ithankyou.

You have a disturbing and irrational hatred for shooters. The game never claims to be an MMORPG, however it is an MMO since, you know, it is massively multiplayer. I fail to see how FPS's are for children, or for people with short attenion spans since nearly every single one of them are marketed towards adults. Please provide an example of what a "real game" is, are you refferring to WoW? SWTOR perhaps? Maybe even Hello Kitty Online? By your logic since I enjoy Halo and TF2 I'm obviously a 12 year old COD fanboy. I mean TF2 and COD are practically the same game since they are both shooters, just like every single mmo is a WoW clone, espically EvE and Darkfall.

I'd respond to all points, but you saying that Eve and Darkfall are WoW clones just killed you where you stand.  Just for clarification, when I say kids or children or babies, I'm talking about mentality, or simple mindedness, easy to please, distracted by handclaps but cracked out on killing. 

As far as real games? I dunno, it sure has been a while.

"Hey, how does this legendary hat look on me?"

"I'm going to my digital house and hang pictures"

"I spent 30 minutes creating my avatar"

"I hope this game allows us to have relationships"

Yeah....I think I'd gladly claim your definition of a FPS player over the mentality of a grown man trying to recreate a his life digitally. 

Live long and prosper, Tron...

Originally posted by JeroKane

 

It's a very old blogplost and a lot of stuff he was talking about, was scrapped! Like the ingame currency. Now you have to use precious cert points to unlock weapons. He has also not posted anymore ever since lol.

This is exactly the stuff I am talking about and why the game has been released way too soon.

In a game like this, player owned bases, rare resources to fight over, harvesters, etc should have been in at launch!

Now... by the time they get this stuff in the game, most people will have grown bored of the game and moved on. Turning the game in another ghost town like PS1, where fights are hard to find. :-(

As right now, the only thing to do ingame is base flipping. Day after day after day after day. /shrug

I wouldn't call a post from August "Very Old", but yes it has been a few months since it was written. And the currency you are talking about was scrapped because of the feedback of the players. Meaning SOE listen and make changes based on player feedback, which surely you can't say is a bad thing.

Nothing he wrote in what I quoted was scrapped. Quite the opposite actually, player built bases have been confirmed as in the works and coming at some point, along with more continents, and weapons, and vehicles.

If every MMO came with what people think it was "supposed to" at launch, no game would ever be released.

Possibly true, and I see where your coming from. I too have the same concerns and don't consider "Base Flipping" as a viable long term "End" game. But this isn't some magical land of gaming where every game ships with enough content to last a lifetime, I wish it were, but we have to support the games we enjoy to see them really come of age.

Ahahahaha I think 90% of the people on this website are just kids or ignorant adults. Stop being so critical and enjoy a game for what it is. It is meant for entertainment! So many people ruin their own fun by over analyzing... It is actually quite frustrating reading through some of these posts. lol

In my opinion it is actually more involved and entertaining than most, if not all, FPS games that have come out recently. Large scale combat, vehicles and rpg elements including new weapons for your character, bits of fluff and cert mods help to give you stuff to look forward to and give you a little bit of progression for your character.

I agree with people who say it can be improved upon in some areas and ofcourse the game will get frequent updates. The base of the game is there and it is pretty fun if you ask me.