Originally posted by Lobotomist

 

1. If you enjoy the game. Stop reading negativity treads - it will eventually effect you and ruin the game for you.

2. If you have things you dont like about the game (and we all have) - Is it so big an issue that you dont want to play the game anymore ? No ? You enjoy the game still - make your case known. But dont dwell on it to much. Enjoy the things you do like.

3. The issue is so big you can not enjoy the game anymore ? Its a bummer. Give the game a pause.Perhaps try planetside ?

 

So all in all. Negativity will ruin the game for you - even if you enjoy it.

Avoid taking part in it.

 

 

 

 

 

 

To be honest then dear Lobo. What are you then doing in these forums?? Take your own advice and move on. These forums have always been for passionate gamers , but also often very disappointed gamers. There is bound to be alot of negativity here in some form or another.  

I am dissapointed with GW2 atm , but i am still digesting why , and i am not running around rampant looking for someone to blame. But i do enjoy reading up what others think and feel, while the understanding settle. And later i proberly will try to voice my conklussion here. While i still enjoyed the game , i didn't even worried about reading thesse forum.

@OP, I completely agree.

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Koliko dobro govori hrvatski? Ne kao da govori engleski, vjerojatno.

Originally posted by Krematory
@zomard: most WoW players don't even read the official forums, so the impact on the community is much lesser. However, every other MMO has a much smaller player base, and that's why I think you can feel that negativity a lot more.

This same principle applies to every single game out there.

Forum negativity has no impact on GW2 ingame, just like it has no impact on other games.

When games fail, it's because of ingame and company (Customer support) related issues. Not because of some trolls on the internet.

Arenanet sold over 2 million units. If all 2 million people would read and write on the forums, the forums would explode and be down 99,9% of the time.

From those 2 million, if 30-50.000 people read and/or write on forums.... then it's a lot.

That's about 2% of the entire playerbase.

what do I do if pure Boredom killed the cat?

Originally posted by Lobotomist

Here is a example from real life:

In my student days i used to live in a flat that i rented together with 3 mates. It was not great but as student money is in short supply, and we had all we needed. Yet one of the mates kept constantly complaining about everything. Slowly we all started hating that flat. But than that mate left, and slowly things started going back to normal and we again enjoyed our living quarters.

I guess I have learned there, how negativity can paint black even a good thing.

 

And ammount of negativity in gamer circles this days is astonding. I think we all know it and i will give no examples.

 

Its like a sickness of todays gamer community and its spreading. It now reached GW2.

This virus needs no big thing to fuel it. Any little thing can be a reason.

For example:

Players complaining about lack of item progression -> Anet gives them item progression <- Players complaining Anet promised there will be no item progression.

Its slippery slope of negativity.

 

Honestly its ruining every game for me.

So this is what I decided to do. (and tend to do with any game that I enjoy)

1. If you enjoy the game. Stop reading negativity treads - it will eventually effect you and ruin the game for you.

2. If you have things you dont like about the game (and we all have) - Is it so big an issue that you dont want to play the game anymore ? No ? You enjoy the game still - make your case known. But dont dwell on it to much. Enjoy the things you do like.

3. The issue is so big you can not enjoy the game anymore ? Its a bummer. Give the game a pause.Perhaps try planetside ?

 

So all in all. Negativity will ruin the game for you - even if you enjoy it.

Avoid taking part in it.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Exactly why I have pretty much given up on any sort of forums or message boards.  Imagine my outlook on games if I ventured into AC or WoW forums at the begining of their life cycle.

Everytime I read negativity on a forums a part of that washes off on me and quells my will to play, then I detox myself by playing for 12 straight hours and all is well untill the next time I visit a forum site.

Originally posted by Lobotomist

Players complaining about lack of item progression -> Anet gives them item progression <- Players complaining Anet promised there will be no item progression.

You have some fair points. But they are undermined by the fact that you don't seem to realize the players who were complaining about lack of item progression are a totally different set of players than the ones who are now complaining about the addition of item progression.

I think the negativity has reached GW2 because people have reached end game and not finding much to do after that

Persoally I think people take negativity way too seriously, and do not use it to see any good. One bad thing seems to make the whole thing bad? Which to me seems unreasnonable

If someone was complaining about a game being Linear, whereas previous games were a sandbox, and I was looking for a Linear game for a change, then that would not be a negative TO ME.

I NEVER take any negativity on the forums about MMOs seriously, in the fact it makes me stop playing the games because I like them. With SWG, the more the people hated on it the more I played it and opened up more accounts. What can get to me however, is if friends in game keep bashing it, and some MMOs (not SWG as there was plenty to do even by yourself) need other players to play, so if they all leave then you can not enjoy the game then, unlike a flat.

If you do find yourself hating something because of what other people say, then there is usually truth to it, but if you stop hating something after the negativity goes away, then you can tolerate the bad things, whereas others can not.

I have not yet played GW2 but none of the negativity being posted about it will stop me playing it one day. What will stop me from playing it will be my own opinion of the game, but for now I am avoiding it due NCSofts mishandling of the City of Heroes shut down. Also apparently NC Soft has been struggling since the COH closure, and they are heading into Bankruptcy, so if that does happen I wonder what will happen to GW2? If it gets shut down then getting involved with the game will end up being a waste of time, but chances are they will try and sell it off.

Agreed

Originally posted by Banquetto

 

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Originally posted by QuicklyScott
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Koliko dobro govori hrvatski? Ne kao da govori engleski, vjerojatno.

Vec sam odustao da ubjedjujem te budale. Ja govorim dva jezika , on samo jedan.

Originally posted by QuicklyScott

So this is basically a "don't say bad things about my game" thread.

 

Perhaps you should not even come to these forums or any internet forum if that is what you wish.

 

 

Also, if you went to University, you should have a basic comprehension of English.  Please make an effort.

That's what this thread is about, it's a "don't say bad things about GW2" even if it's genuine concerns. Thing is if you look at his post history he is actually guilty of what he is complaining about lol.

Stones and glass houses comes to mind.

Denial killed the cat.

It's a personal flaw if you can't be headstrong enough to enjoy things despite other's dont.
It's the reason people like that can't take critics directed at a game they play, because they put their personal stake in it.

The only right opinion is their own anyway. They can't deal with the fact other's don't agree with them. They also lack compassion as soon as they go online.

They are the reason the MMO is so bad in shape as it is. They create the very hostile environments in forums. They are the reason valueable feedback never reaches developers. Everything get's flooded down with denial and downplay also known as "fanboyism".

"It can't be bad!!!!! Because i like the game, i don't play class x but it can't be bad because i like class y! Stop whinning, you are destroying my game hater!"

They are the reason so many negativity threads get created in order to be heard. They scream louder than any initial complain made and try to deny anyone but themselves to be heard.

And the sad (funny) part is, they don't even realize their selfishness is the very reason to start the circle.

Someone pointing out flaws to the developers does not deny you to enjoy it still, but you want to deny him the right to give feedback in forums.

This is where all the trouble starts and ends.

Originally posted by Lobotomist

Here is a example from real life:

In my student days i used to live in a flat that i rented together with 3 mates. It was not great but as student money is in short supply, and we had all we needed. Yet one of the mates kept constantly complaining about everything. Slowly we all started hating that flat. But than that mate left, and slowly things started going back to normal and we again enjoyed our living quarters.

I guess I have learned there, how negativity can paint black even a good thing.

 

And ammount of negativity in gamer circles this days is astonding. I think we all know it and i will give no examples.

 

Its like a sickness of todays gamer community and its spreading. It now reached GW2.

This virus needs no big thing to fuel it. Any little thing can be a reason.

For example:

Players complaining about lack of item progression -> Anet gives them item progression <- Players complaining Anet promised there will be no item progression.

Its slippery slope of negativity.

 

Honestly its ruining every game for me.

So this is what I decided to do. (and tend to do with any game that I enjoy)

1. If you enjoy the game. Stop reading negativity treads - it will eventually effect you and ruin the game for you.

2. If you have things you dont like about the game (and we all have) - Is it so big an issue that you dont want to play the game anymore ? No ? You enjoy the game still - make your case known. But dont dwell on it to much. Enjoy the things you do like.

3. The issue is so big you can not enjoy the game anymore ? Its a bummer. Give the game a pause.Perhaps try planetside ?

 

So all in all. Negativity will ruin the game for you - even if you enjoy it.

Avoid taking part in it.

 

 

 

 

 

 

The funniest thing about this post (and I mean no disrespect to the OP when I say this)

Is, It was a crappie flat. All your mate did was point out what was wrong with it. You started hating the flat because you agreed with your mate. The only thing your mate did was prevent you from suspending your perception that your flat was ok. The flat didn’t get better when your mate left you could just go back to ignoring the problems.

People complain because they have a problem. Some people see the problems and other don’t, but if reading someone’s issues with the game makes you feel differently about the game then just maybe what they’re saying is true even if you refuse to see it.

Originally posted by Rimmersman

Originally posted by QuicklyScott

So this is basically a "don't say bad things about my game" thread.

 

Perhaps you should not even come to these forums or any internet forum if that is what you wish.

 

 

Also, if you went to University, you should have a basic comprehension of English.  Please make an effort.

That's what this thread is about, it's a "don't say bad things about GW2" even if it's genuine concerns. Thing is if you look at his post history he is actually guilty of what he is complaining about lol.

Stones and glass houses comes to mind.

Nice catch, just looked at his post history  hehe. He is contradicting himself with this post.

You will find that most people who are very negitive and even abusive are the ones who have issues in every day to day life. It is very easy to cyber bully/troll and get away with abusing negitive behaviour.

But I agree, don't read up on the negitive, find out for your self and if you enjoy it good, if you don't then find something else. That goes for every one, including those who write whiney, bitchy threads. I've went back to World of Warcraft, and I'm really enjoying it now that the new expansion is out. I find the panda's stupid and funny and I love it!

Originally posted by Rimmersman

Originally posted by QuicklyScott

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Can you guys tell me where exactly OP says "don't say bad things" ? I read "don't read negative things about game you enjoy or it may ruin it for you". Prove me wrong, please.

I very agree with OP. Too much negativity can spoil your view of anything (not only game... movie, person... anything). I actually do the same, I try to avoid negative threads as much as possible. On the other hand that should not mean, you can't voice your opinion. Tell what you want and go away. If you get caught in circle of trolling and hating, you will be lost.

Originally posted by Kaleston

Originally posted by Rimmersman

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Can you guys tell me where exactly OP says "don't say bad things" ? I read "don't read negative things about game you enjoy or it may ruin it for you". Prove me wrong, please.

I very agree with OP. Too much negativity can spoil your view of anything (not only game... movie, person... anything). I actually do the same, I try to avoid negative threads as much as possible. On the other hand that should not mean, you can't voice your opinion. Tell what you want and go away. If you get caught in circle of trolling and hating, you will be lost.

Well it shouldn't.  If you enjoy or support something then other people's thoughts should have no influence on how you feel about it.

But if you harbor doubts about your beliefs/convictions, then I agree, negativity will bring those doubts to the surface, and perhaps make you see things in a different light and change your mind about the subject at hand.

This does not mean the negativity was a bad thing, or that you were somehow harmed by it, rather think of it as an enlightening process, and you are now the better for it. 

You are now free to go enjoy something you really like rather than something you were fooling yourself into thinking you did.