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General Discussion  » Suggestion: Add PvE for those that don't want to PvP

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  TheScavenger

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OP  11/20/12 1:36:50 PM#21
Originally posted by Ikeda
Originally posted by TheScavenger

There is so very little PvE sandbox MMOs. The only one that is relatively modern (and still looks good) is Ryzom. Every single other sandbox MMO is open world PvP. PS2 seems to take this one step way too far, and there is just no PvE at all. Why can't there be a 4th NPC faction, that invades the land and conquers stuff...exactly like what Tabula Rasa did. Instead this is just PvP 24/7, nothing else.

 

I think this game could benefit a lot for us who have been waiting 200 years for a PvE sandbox game (or at least a lot bigger focus on PvE). Every other sandbox game has a huge focus PvP, so adding PvE would make this a lot more unique and interesting. EVE did this with their dynamic events when rats attack systems and take them over...that was a huge improvement.

 

Anyone else agree that there should be more PvE elements? I'm kinda tired of all the sandbox games just having PvP over and over and over...all I'm stuck with is Ryzom it seems. I think if they added PvE, this MMO would really take off in popularity. All they would need to do is copy Tabula Rasa's PvE system.

GTFO

 

Seriously.

This game was DESIGNED for what it was designed for.  Go play Halo if you don't want to PvP.

Halo isn't an MMO, nor is the multiplayer part of it PvE. And the singleplayer ends in a few hours.

 

What I want, is an MMO like Tabula Rasa, but more sandbox...actually, the size of Planetside 2, but with PvE...but guess PS2 isn't designed that way, and more of a battlefield experience (but on a much much larger scale).

 

Now PvP is fine, but every sandbox game (except Ryzom) is all PvP and little to no PvP. Sandbox fans complain all the time about lack of sandbox, but its worse than that for us who want an equal (an equal, not more or less) amount of PvE in their sandbox game. But I guess PS2 is designed the way it is, a massive battlefield style game from what I can see.

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  Torvaldr

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11/20/12 1:39:38 PM#22
Firefall would be your choice.

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  Ikeda

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11/20/12 1:40:14 PM#23
Yea but the entire POINT of Sandbox is that you DO what you want.  Inevitably PvP ensues.  Forcing PvE into a sandbox takes away pretty much EVERY aspect of a sandbox.
  ShakyMo

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11/20/12 1:45:53 PM#24
But planetside isn't a sandbox anyway its a rvr game.
  Kanester

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11/20/12 1:50:09 PM#25
My question is, How could you not like PVP in a MMOFPS? It's just the best thing ever! :D

  DAS1337

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11/20/12 1:54:12 PM#26
Originally posted by TheScavenger

There is so very little PvE sandbox MMOs. The only one that is relatively modern (and still looks good) is Ryzom. Every single other sandbox MMO is open world PvP. PS2 seems to take this one step way too far, and there is just no PvE at all. Why can't there be a 4th NPC faction, that invades the land and conquers stuff...exactly like what Tabula Rasa did. Instead this is just PvP 24/7, nothing else.

 

I think this game could benefit a lot for us who have been waiting 200 years for a PvE sandbox game (or at least a lot bigger focus on PvE). Every other sandbox game has a huge focus PvP, so adding PvE would make this a lot more unique and interesting. EVE did this with their dynamic events when rats attack systems and take them over...that was a huge improvement.

 

Anyone else agree that there should be more PvE elements? I'm kinda tired of all the sandbox games just having PvP over and over and over...all I'm stuck with is Ryzom it seems. I think if they added PvE, this MMO would really take off in popularity. All they would need to do is copy Tabula Rasa's PvE system.

 

Planetside has a very unique feel to it.  It's always been an open world PvP style of game.  What you're suggesting would require a huge amount of resources.  It would completely change the game in nearly every way.  It would be like adding guns to the next Madden game.

 

I have a suggestion for you.  Play Firefall.  There is a paid-beta right now, and it fits the first person PvE style of game that you seem to be looking for in Planetside 2.  The world isn't completely open, but it is a very large map with dynamic events going on all over the map.  It has an art direction similar to Borderlands.  Combat is also simlar as well.  Everything is very polished.  There is going to be a huge emphasis on crafting and dynamic missions.  You will be able to create armies(guilds) and do raid style content.  There will be territory control.  There are instanced PvP battlegrounds for the people who want to PvP.  It really seems to be what you are looking for.

 

It's a lot easier for you to play a game that you're looking for than for the developers to scrap Planetside 2 to make the game that you want them to make.

  DAS1337

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11/20/12 1:56:11 PM#27
Originally posted by Ikeda
Yea but the entire POINT of Sandbox is that you DO what you want.  Inevitably PvP ensues.  Forcing PvE into a sandbox takes away pretty much EVERY aspect of a sandbox.

If it doesn't have PvE in the first place, it isn't a sandbox to begin with.

 

Forcing PvE into a PvP game pretty much destroys the whole concept of the game.  That sort of decision needs to be made when you are originally designing the game from the ground, up.

  TeknoBug

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11/20/12 2:08:43 PM#28

The only pve Planetside 1 had was the shooting gallery, you want pve in Planetside 2? HAH


  TheScavenger

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OP  11/20/12 2:19:20 PM#29

So I checked out Firefall that was suggested here. And it actually reminds me Tabula Rasa, mixed with Borderlands and somewhat of...what was that one game...made by...HiRes Studios...forgot the name of it...but looks similar to that. But they seemed to have gotten a lot of ideas from TR.

 

So, thanks for that suggestion guys :)

 

As for PS2. I respect it for what it is, I like FPS games and this one is a neverending one. I just don't like pvp 24/7, but since PS2 is free I can play whenever.

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  Beanpuie

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11/20/12 3:51:37 PM#30

PVE in Planetside will not work.

Given the IP's history, the Community itself that they built, and the game mechanics, budget, and time.

 

putting PVE in planetside 2 would be so tacked it,  it would make  SWTORS  tacked on space rail shooter look like a good idea.

 

Smedley spoke about PVE aspects now and then, bouncing ideas with the devs and community on how  he thinks it might work.

 

the closest youll get of anything remotely PVE would be NPC enemies/targets that you would be able to shoot at (animals for example)  or they would be able to attack you ( ancient alien vanu).

 

but anything beyond that would be a waste, both financially and philosophically -- it would down right be a bold face lie that the community,  the planetside community would not stand for  after  SOE relgiously promoted about wanting things to be seamless and persistant.

SOE would be out of their damn minds to start putting in instant Raid type enemies in PS2,  and to speak bluntly, id rather see a return of BFRs and all their broken glory before  PS2 starts clamoring for ideas of how to implement purple loot into the game-- yes im biased..

  tank017

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11/20/12 4:00:44 PM#31
Straight pve doesn't belong in the world of PS.The only way i wouldn't mind pve is if it was some sort of npc alien 4th faction that shows up at random times, adding more spice to the experience and acting as a 'monkey wrench' to the 3 playable factions.But 3 way massive warfare its plenty for me.Pure pvp is all PS knows and that's a good thing.
  Beanpuie

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11/20/12 4:11:51 PM#32
Originally posted by tank017
Straight pve doesn't belong in the world of PS.The only way i wouldn't mind pve is if it was some sort of npc alien 4th faction that shows up at random times, adding more spice to the experience and acting as a 'monkey wrench' to the 3 playable factions.But 3 way massive warfare its plenty for me.Pure pvp is all PS knows and that's a good thing.

This has been talked about and bounced around,  and also the only type of idea that wasnt steamed rolled unanimously with a resounding no by the community.

 

me personally it would have to be strictly event/random based much like PS1's rabbit , cowboy  events - that way it doesnt get stale, it changes the situation drastically for all 3 sides.

  User Deleted
11/20/12 4:51:44 PM#33

I'd rather the series stick to what it's known to do well than try to branch out to please everyone. That's been a large problem with a lot of recent games.

 

If you are looking for a PvE shooter MMO though, Fallen Earth and Neocron are worth looking at.

  Cecropia

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11/20/12 6:16:15 PM#34

Hilarious. I thought this was a Darkfall thread when I clicked on it (as the recent forum post beneath this thread was a DF one), and was thinking oh, man, not another one. Has there ever been a PVP sandbox mmo where we didn't see these kinds of "put in PVE"  threads?

While I do not think they should be focusing on much in the way of PVE in PS2, I believe the OP is right about the lack of some decent PVE sandbox titles. From my perspective there does seem to be enough demand. I'd certainly give one a fair shot.

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  ltank

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11/20/12 10:05:13 PM#35
Not just no but hell no.
  Greyflame11

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11/20/12 11:27:44 PM#36
Wait!  No PvE in PS2... and to think I was going to play it... ;)
  StarI

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11/21/12 1:47:57 AM#37
ahaha well played, op
  Everket

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11/21/12 6:47:50 AM#38

Holy hell you cannot possible be serious? Of course not, it probably the most arrogant and dumbest post I've read in here. Nice trolling I guess.

  f0dell54

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11/21/12 8:12:40 AM#39
Go play COD if you want PVE in a fps.
  User Deleted
11/21/12 9:05:19 AM#40
Originally posted by Cecropia

Hilarious. I thought this was a Darkfall thread when I clicked on it (as the recent forum post beneath this thread was a DF one), and was thinking oh, man, not another one.

Indeed. People no longer simply ignore games they have no interest in, they seem to think that every game should be changed to suit them. Often saying "oh they'd make more moneyz".

 

No doubt there is demand for a PVE sandbox, trying to convert PVP sandboxes or PVP games into one though, yeah that's a shit idea.

 

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Having said that i'm going to go out on a limb and guess that the OP is parodying the lame ass threads like this we see about Darkfall every other day.

 

 

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