It is silly how much the dynamic events were being said as the "next evolution" in gw2.  And they were exactly what a few of us said before launch, but were shouted down.  That they were Warhammer events, but a tiny bit bigger, and could go backwards instead of just forwards.

Revolutionary!

But yeah, the OP is right in that portals are random, which is a little bit more dynamic than gw2, but gw2 has so many more "choices" between events.

Originally posted by Quirhid

Originally posted by fat_taddler

Originally posted by Quirhid
 

I agree that  companies should take dynamic content to the next level but if you look at the two current AAA MMO's boasting about dynamic content, Rift wins, hands down.

I will disagree on the basis of rifts were so lame I can't call them dynamic. Atleast have some dynamic events affecting each other and some of them having more than just the "pass/fail" end states.

You could build a whole web of events if you develop it more. Rifts... not so much.

Monsters from 2 different kind of Rifts would fight each other they also fight mobs and NPCs alike.

Troops march out and gradually conquer the map with strongholds if not kept in check.

I think Rifts could be done better but they do have a way greater impact on the workd and are more dynamic and unpreidctable than the GW2 events.

I would have loved to see 2 world events happening at the same time in Rift that would have been epic.

On a pvp server its even better having world events ius not only a fight against the NPcs its also a fight against the other faction and having rl players fighting you in a events is far more Dynamic than any repeding scripted event in GW2.

Originally posted by Nightgroper

is GW2 dynamic? Not as much as advertised. 

they are really good in advertising and making up new words for old concepts.

Dynamic events which are not dynamic.

Also  inventing "B2P", which is in fact a free game with a relatively cheap 60$ lifetime sub attached, but too heavy focus on cash shop with keys for gambling boxes.

Yeah it was fun for some time, but below the line rather a disappointment for me. The graphics were great though.

Originally posted by muffins89

Originally posted by Quirhid

Originally posted by fat_taddler

Originally posted by Quirhid
 

I agree that  companies should take dynamic content to the next level but if you look at the two current AAA MMO's boasting about dynamic content, Rift wins, hands down.

I will disagree on the basis of rifts were so lame I can't call them dynamic. Atleast have some dynamic events affecting each other and some of them having more than just the "pass/fail" end states.

You could build a whole web of events if you develop it more. Rifts... not so much.

some of Trions 'dynamic content' does "build a whole web of event".  have you ever experienced a zone event in Rift? 

I experienced zone events up untill about a year ago when there wasn't enough people or intrest to have anyone do them untill the very end .Has something changed where you actually get more then the 5 or 6 different rifts over and over again?

Originally posted by fat_taddler

Trion is still on top when it comes to dynamic content in themepark MMO's.   I remember over the summer when most people ragged on Rift's dynamic content while touting how much more dynamic GW2 would be.

 

I enjoy a lot of things about GW2 but there is very little in terms of truly dynamic content.

 Wow you really really proved your point, thanks for opening my eyes. I can make a clear purchase now based on this wealth of information showing which game is better and why.

Originally posted by fat_taddler

Originally posted by Badaboom

Originally posted by fat_taddler

Trion is still on top when it comes to dynamic content in themepark MMO's.   I remember over the summer when most people ragged on Rift's dynamic content while touting how much more dynamic GW2 would be.

 

I enjoy a lot of things about GW2 but there is very little in terms of truly dynamic content.

Prove it. 

Name one event in GW2 that doesn't take place in the same spot every time on a set schedule or when someone talks to the appropriate NPC.

First human zone boss, requires multiple forms of input before it will trigger, from zone population, zone event participation, amount of people closing portals in the swamp itself, and the swamp's trigger quest. No one knows the  combo to make it pop. Dynamic as you'll get. Some days see it twice a day, sometimes dont see it for a week.

Originally posted by fat_taddler

Trion is still on top when it comes to dynamic content in themepark MMO's.   I remember over the summer when most people ragged on Rift's dynamic content while touting how much more dynamic GW2 would be.

 

I enjoy a lot of things about GW2 but there is very little in terms of truly dynamic content.

While I will agree with you about the dynamics on a certain degree, I find the one big factor with Rift, and that is the combat , slow as all hell , makes LOTRO fun to play, wish they would redo the combat in Rift.

Originally posted by Vhaln

Originally posted by Quirhid
Ehm... What makes you say that?

 

Maybe because rifts happen unpredictably, can change the face of an entire zone, and even have random interactions with other rifts.  Feels much more alive, like a more organic system, even if they aren't as complex.  

 

GW2's scripted events just happen in the same places, like clockwork, over and over.  They aren't really what I'd call dynamic at all.  One of my biggest disappointments with that game.

Spot on there - if you let a Rift get out of hand they take over the NPC towns where you turn in quests and just completely go beserk and and change the zone.

Originally posted by Toxia

Originally posted by fat_taddler

Originally posted by Badaboom

Originally posted by fat_taddler

Trion is still on top when it comes to dynamic content in themepark MMO's.   I remember over the summer when most people ragged on Rift's dynamic content while touting how much more dynamic GW2 would be.

 

I enjoy a lot of things about GW2 but there is very little in terms of truly dynamic content.

Prove it. 

Name one event in GW2 that doesn't take place in the same spot every time on a set schedule or when someone talks to the appropriate NPC.

First human zone boss, requires multiple forms of input before it will trigger, from zone population, zone event participation, amount of people closing portals in the swamp itself, and the swamp's trigger quest. No one knows the  combo to make it pop. Dynamic as you'll get. Some days see it twice a day, sometimes dont see it for a week.

But as I've stated before, it will happen at the same spot each time and anytime the right mix of variables are in place according to your post

Originally posted by fat_taddler

Originally posted by Toxia

Originally posted by fat_taddler

Originally posted by Badaboom

Originally posted by fat_taddler

Trion is still on top when it comes to dynamic content in themepark MMO's.   I remember over the summer when most people ragged on Rift's dynamic content while touting how much more dynamic GW2 would be.

 

I enjoy a lot of things about GW2 but there is very little in terms of truly dynamic content.

Prove it. 

Name one event in GW2 that doesn't take place in the same spot every time on a set schedule or when someone talks to the appropriate NPC.

First human zone boss, requires multiple forms of input before it will trigger, from zone population, zone event participation, amount of people closing portals in the swamp itself, and the swamp's trigger quest. No one knows the  combo to make it pop. Dynamic as you'll get. Some days see it twice a day, sometimes dont see it for a week.

But as I've stated before, it will happen at the same spot each time and anytime the right mix of variables are in place according to your post

I gave you what you asked for :)

Is this not the definition of dynamic content?

Originally posted by Toxia

Originally posted by fat_taddler

Originally posted by Toxia

Originally posted by fat_taddler

Originally posted by Badaboom

Originally posted by fat_taddler

Trion is still on top when it comes to dynamic content in themepark MMO's.   I remember over the summer when most people ragged on Rift's dynamic content while touting how much more dynamic GW2 would be.

 

I enjoy a lot of things about GW2 but there is very little in terms of truly dynamic content.

Prove it. 

Name one event in GW2 that doesn't take place in the same spot every time on a set schedule or when someone talks to the appropriate NPC.

First human zone boss, requires multiple forms of input before it will trigger, from zone population, zone event participation, amount of people closing portals in the swamp itself, and the swamp's trigger quest. No one knows the  combo to make it pop. Dynamic as you'll get. Some days see it twice a day, sometimes dont see it for a week.

But as I've stated before, it will happen at the same spot each time and anytime the right mix of variables are in place according to your post

I gave you what you asked for :)

Is this not the definition of dynamic content?

Absolutely not the definition of dynamic content.  As you stated in your post, players trigger the content which means it's actually controlled.  In Rift, players have no control of when or where an event / invasion will take place or how much it will affect the zone it spawns in.

Originally posted by fat_taddler

Originally posted by Toxia

Originally posted by fat_taddler

Originally posted by Toxia

Originally posted by fat_taddler

Originally posted by Badaboom

Originally posted by fat_taddler

Trion is still on top when it comes to dynamic content in themepark MMO's.   I remember over the summer when most people ragged on Rift's dynamic content while touting how much more dynamic GW2 would be.

 

I enjoy a lot of things about GW2 but there is very little in terms of truly dynamic content.

Prove it. 

Name one event in GW2 that doesn't take place in the same spot every time on a set schedule or when someone talks to the appropriate NPC.

First human zone boss, requires multiple forms of input before it will trigger, from zone population, zone event participation, amount of people closing portals in the swamp itself, and the swamp's trigger quest. No one knows the  combo to make it pop. Dynamic as you'll get. Some days see it twice a day, sometimes dont see it for a week.

But as I've stated before, it will happen at the same spot each time and anytime the right mix of variables are in place according to your post

I gave you what you asked for :)

Is this not the definition of dynamic content?

Absolutely not the definition of dynamic content.  As you stated in your post, players trigger the content which means it's actually controlled.  In Rift, players have no control of when or where an event / invasion will take place or how much it will affect the zone it spawns in.

 

Fat, I agree with you on the dynamic events, they should be out of the control of player actions and should just happen, which brings it to why Rift has a organic life like feel to it, it is because of what you said in your post.

I will call GW2 events just as they are " Events " nothing more nothing less, they are also stuck to certain sections of the world and do not move to other parts, like in Rift, nothing really changes in GW2 events either, I have a level 80 char Warrior and got to that stage of the game in the first 3 weeks of release, that includes legendarys exotics what have you, and I have not witnessed one event that can even hold a candle to Rifts dynamic event system.

Originally posted by fat_taddler

Originally posted by Toxia

Originally posted by fat_taddler

Originally posted by Toxia

Originally posted by fat_taddler

Originally posted by Badaboom

Originally posted by fat_taddler

Trion is still on top when it comes to dynamic content in themepark MMO's.   I remember over the summer when most people ragged on Rift's dynamic content while touting how much more dynamic GW2 would be.

 

I enjoy a lot of things about GW2 but there is very little in terms of truly dynamic content.

Prove it. 

Name one event in GW2 that doesn't take place in the same spot every time on a set schedule or when someone talks to the appropriate NPC.

First human zone boss, requires multiple forms of input before it will trigger, from zone population, zone event participation, amount of people closing portals in the swamp itself, and the swamp's trigger quest. No one knows the  combo to make it pop. Dynamic as you'll get. Some days see it twice a day, sometimes dont see it for a week.

But as I've stated before, it will happen at the same spot each time and anytime the right mix of variables are in place according to your post

I gave you what you asked for :)

Is this not the definition of dynamic content?

Absolutely not the definition of dynamic content.  As you stated in your post, players trigger the content which means it's actually controlled.  In Rift, players have no control of when or where an event / invasion will take place or how much it will affect the zone it spawns in.

 

Controlled by who? Players have input on the combo, but all the players out there could never coordinate enough to make it pop. therefore, they do not control it.

It sounds like you want Dynamic to equal Random content, not changing content, which is what i define dynamic as.

Do i want a zone boss to pop with 4 people in the zone who now cant do their other events or heart quests in the area? Nope...

Do i want a spontaneous event that might pop while a bunch of us are in the area to enjoy it? Hell yeah.

But, if you want Random content, Anet just threw in a series of dungeons for free that are completely random, from which one you get first, to how you get through it.

Originally posted by Toxia

Originally posted by fat_taddler

Originally posted by Toxia

Originally posted by fat_taddler

Originally posted by Toxia

Originally posted by fat_taddler

Originally posted by Badaboom

Originally posted by fat_taddler

Trion is still on top when it comes to dynamic content in themepark MMO's.   I remember over the summer when most people ragged on Rift's dynamic content while touting how much more dynamic GW2 would be.

 

I enjoy a lot of things about GW2 but there is very little in terms of truly dynamic content.

Prove it. 

Name one event in GW2 that doesn't take place in the same spot every time on a set schedule or when someone talks to the appropriate NPC.

First human zone boss, requires multiple forms of input before it will trigger, from zone population, zone event participation, amount of people closing portals in the swamp itself, and the swamp's trigger quest. No one knows the  combo to make it pop. Dynamic as you'll get. Some days see it twice a day, sometimes dont see it for a week.

But as I've stated before, it will happen at the same spot each time and anytime the right mix of variables are in place according to your post

I gave you what you asked for :)

Is this not the definition of dynamic content?

Absolutely not the definition of dynamic content.  As you stated in your post, players trigger the content which means it's actually controlled.  In Rift, players have no control of when or where an event / invasion will take place or how much it will affect the zone it spawns in.

 

Controlled by who? Players have input on the combo, but all the players out there could never coordinate enough to make it pop. therefore, they do not control it.

It sounds like you want Dynamic to equal Random content, not changing content, which is what i define dynamic as.

Do i want a zone boss to pop with 4 people in the zone who now cant do their other events or heart quests in the area? Nope...

Do i want a spontaneous event that might pop while a bunch of us are in the area to enjoy it? Hell yeah.

But, if you want Random content, Anet just threw in a series of dungeons for free that are completely random, from which one you get first, to how you get through it.

You clearly don't understand the definition of "dynamic".

And I'm not saying that GW2 events aren't fun or sometimes epic feeling, they simply are not dynamic which is I say Rift has more dynamic content.

Originally posted by fat_taddler

Originally posted by Toxia

Originally posted by fat_taddler

Originally posted by Toxia

Originally posted by fat_taddler

Originally posted by Toxia

Originally posted by fat_taddler

Originally posted by Badaboom

Originally posted by fat_taddler

Trion is still on top when it comes to dynamic content in themepark MMO's.   I remember over the summer when most people ragged on Rift's dynamic content while touting how much more dynamic GW2 would be.

 

I enjoy a lot of things about GW2 but there is very little in terms of truly dynamic content.

Prove it. 

Name one event in GW2 that doesn't take place in the same spot every time on a set schedule or when someone talks to the appropriate NPC.

First human zone boss, requires multiple forms of input before it will trigger, from zone population, zone event participation, amount of people closing portals in the swamp itself, and the swamp's trigger quest. No one knows the  combo to make it pop. Dynamic as you'll get. Some days see it twice a day, sometimes dont see it for a week.

But as I've stated before, it will happen at the same spot each time and anytime the right mix of variables are in place according to your post

I gave you what you asked for :)

Is this not the definition of dynamic content?

Absolutely not the definition of dynamic content.  As you stated in your post, players trigger the content which means it's actually controlled.  In Rift, players have no control of when or where an event / invasion will take place or how much it will affect the zone it spawns in.

 

Controlled by who? Players have input on the combo, but all the players out there could never coordinate enough to make it pop. therefore, they do not control it.

It sounds like you want Dynamic to equal Random content, not changing content, which is what i define dynamic as.

Do i want a zone boss to pop with 4 people in the zone who now cant do their other events or heart quests in the area? Nope...

Do i want a spontaneous event that might pop while a bunch of us are in the area to enjoy it? Hell yeah.

But, if you want Random content, Anet just threw in a series of dungeons for free that are completely random, from which one you get first, to how you get through it.

You clearly don't understand the definition of "dynamic".

And I'm not saying that GW2 events aren't fun or sometimes epic feeling, they simply are not dynamic which is I say Rift has more dynamic content.

Dynamic:

Adjective:(of a process or system) Characterized by constant change, activity, or progress.

But...i'll not sway you, so i'll leave it be :) Have fun out there

Originally posted by Toxia

Originally posted by fat_taddler

Originally posted by Toxia

Originally posted by fat_taddler

Originally posted by Toxia

Originally posted by fat_taddler

Originally posted by Toxia

Originally posted by fat_taddler

Originally posted by Badaboom

Originally posted by fat_taddler

Trion is still on top when it comes to dynamic content in themepark MMO's.   I remember over the summer when most people ragged on Rift's dynamic content while touting how much more dynamic GW2 would be.

 

I enjoy a lot of things about GW2 but there is very little in terms of truly dynamic content.

Prove it. 

Name one event in GW2 that doesn't take place in the same spot every time on a set schedule or when someone talks to the appropriate NPC.

First human zone boss, requires multiple forms of input before it will trigger, from zone population, zone event participation, amount of people closing portals in the swamp itself, and the swamp's trigger quest. No one knows the  combo to make it pop. Dynamic as you'll get. Some days see it twice a day, sometimes dont see it for a week.

But as I've stated before, it will happen at the same spot each time and anytime the right mix of variables are in place according to your post

I gave you what you asked for :)

Is this not the definition of dynamic content?

Absolutely not the definition of dynamic content.  As you stated in your post, players trigger the content which means it's actually controlled.  In Rift, players have no control of when or where an event / invasion will take place or how much it will affect the zone it spawns in.

 

Controlled by who? Players have input on the combo, but all the players out there could never coordinate enough to make it pop. therefore, they do not control it.

It sounds like you want Dynamic to equal Random content, not changing content, which is what i define dynamic as.

Do i want a zone boss to pop with 4 people in the zone who now cant do their other events or heart quests in the area? Nope...

Do i want a spontaneous event that might pop while a bunch of us are in the area to enjoy it? Hell yeah.

But, if you want Random content, Anet just threw in a series of dungeons for free that are completely random, from which one you get first, to how you get through it.

You clearly don't understand the definition of "dynamic".

And I'm not saying that GW2 events aren't fun or sometimes epic feeling, they simply are not dynamic which is I say Rift has more dynamic content.

Dynamic:

Adjective:(of a process or system) Characterized by constant change, activity, or progress.

But...i'll not sway you, so i'll leave it be :) Have fun out there

Wow, thanks for proving my point.   None of the events in GW2 "change", they are always in the same spot and require a definitive trigger in order to start.

Well RIFT in some ways might have more dynamic event. However GW2 has WAY more immersion. The game world overall feels MUCH more alive and fluid.  Both game worlds look good. Both have their good points and bad. I am still undecided if I like GW2 Dungeons. However Open world Content and immersion. RIFT left me puking, while I ran my chores/tasks (quests) and tripped over mobs that were entirely to densely packed... While in GW2. I get lost in an amazingly immersive world, and as I travel I enjoy the events. Be it dynamic, Hearts, or Vistas.

IMHO GW2 wins this battle regardless of which events are more dynamic.

Ohh and I think both made a huge mistake by cycling thru on timers.  If mobs take over.. They should REMAIN in charge. Untill players take it back, truly continue to grow in number. Untill only an army of players can take back the area.

I agree with the OP.

Rift events are more random, more unpredictable and can change the entire zone. I don't know of a dynamic equal in GW2 where one day you can come into a zone and it be calm and peaceful and an hour later the entire zone is overrun with rifts. 

As others have said, GW2 is more like a series of scripted events and less about random chaos. Personally, I find random chaos more dynamic.

GW2's events aren't dynamic.

You can't manipulate the meaning of words to fit your agenda, silly ArenaNet.