OP, agreed, it's not the damned money. It was never the damned money. If SWTOR had any redeeming qualities at all, I would be subbing and paying for it and never a thought about the sub fee.

But that feeling of them groping around with their greasy little paws in my pockets trying to find my wallet is a major let-down. That's all they want. They don't give a shit about me or any other customer. They don't care if they can be proud of their product, and they don't care if people like it or have fun.

They only care about whether they're getting their tentacles on my wallet.

you can buy them for credits in game on the gtn as you can every unlock or a paying friend can gift you them.

I have gifted 2 entire sets of unlocks to mates and sold a load more on the gtn.

from all my years to almost decades of playing mmo's coupled with the ugly head rearing of freetoplay games that mask the untimely deaths of supposed AAA games that fail out of the gate.  I find it that all these freemium games cost you double the amount you would pay monthly if you would just subscribe for whatever time you decide to play. 

especially if you didn't buy the game at launch, it's free to waste cash now.  just sub and get the full monty out of this bitch.  then ditch it in a dumpster like a gta game when your done.

Originally posted by versulas
There aren't enough threads about this already? F2P isn't a requirement...

Not really no. Greed kills more people than cancer.
... and the answer for your second sentence: being silent about your experience is not an requirement either.

Originally posted by n3v3rriv3r
One other thing made me just close the game and uninstall. I couldn't believe it but you must actually pay to have additional quick slots.
They didn't learn anything they are still very gready.

Same here. Though I would not call that "additional" quick bars - they are "necessary" quick bars. I can understand (almos) every other limitation. But selling UI elements?! Like someone pointed out already - why not sell the ability to use mouse. At the end you do not really need it if you have a keyboard, right? 

Originally posted by Mirandel

Originally posted by n3v3rriv3r
One other thing made me just close the game and uninstall. I couldn't believe it but you must actually pay to have additional quick slots.
They didn't learn anything they are still very gready.

 

Same here. Though I would not call that "additional" quick bars - they are "necessary" quick bars. I can understand (almos) every other limitation. But selling UI elements?! Like someone pointed out already - why not sell the ability to use mouse. At the end you do not really need it if you have a keyboard, right? 

 

Exactly they are necessary. This is like if they gave you the option to move your mouse only up, down and left.

When they designed the game they knew perfectly well that you cannot have only two bars. You simply cannot put all the skills on them and ergo you cannot play the game if you dont buy more quickslots.

Originally posted by n3v3rriv3r
I decided to try the game again now that it is f2p. I bought new graphic card meanwhile
and my machine can run all at max. Let me tell you something: graphics in this game are bad. But this was not my issue - I can bear bad graphics.
One other thing made me just close the game and uninstall. I couldn't believe it but you must actually pay to have additional quick slots.
They didn't learn anything they are still very gready.

I thought the graphics were fine.  The engine is crap for PVP combat though.

I won't give them a dime as long as they charge customers for Quickslot bars.  Paying to display titles and to hide the head slot is also ridiculous but I could deal with that. 

Originally posted by thamighty213

you can buy them for credits in game on the gtn as you can every unlock or a paying friend can gift you them.

 

I have gifted 2 entire sets of unlocks to mates and sold a load more on the gtn.

how much?  If it's over the credit cap then it's not much use.

Originally posted by FrodoFragins

Originally posted by thamighty213

you can buy them for credits in game on the gtn as you can every unlock or a paying friend can gift you them.

 

I have gifted 2 entire sets of unlocks to mates and sold a load more on the gtn.

how much?  If it's over the credit cap then it's not much use.

Actually prices on GTN are pretty low... to my surprise. I guess lot's of people getting the unlocks, and other stuff... free market dectate prices.

I'm kind of dissapointed they didn't make Right-clicking a consumable item. $5 for 500 right-clicks.  They'd make a fortune!

/sarcasm

Originally posted by Sevenstar61

Originally posted by FrodoFragins

Originally posted by thamighty213

you can buy them for credits in game on the gtn as you can every unlock or a paying friend can gift you them.

 

I have gifted 2 entire sets of unlocks to mates and sold a load more on the gtn.

how much?  If it's over the credit cap then it's not much use.

Actually prices on GTN are pretty low... to my surprise. I guess lot's of people getting the unlocks, and other stuff... free market dectate prices.

If that's the case then I'd be more than happy to change my stance on the subject of locked quickbars.

Originally posted by Sevenstar61

Originally posted by FrodoFragins

Originally posted by thamighty213

you can buy them for credits in game on the gtn as you can every unlock or a paying friend can gift you them.

 

I have gifted 2 entire sets of unlocks to mates and sold a load more on the gtn.

how much?  If it's over the credit cap then it's not much use.

Actually prices on GTN are pretty low... to my surprise. I guess lot's of people getting the unlocks, and other stuff... free market dectate prices.

I logged in this moring and the only unlocks available on the AH were Cago Bay slots and they were going for 900K credits. Is that considered "pretty low"?

Originally posted by n3v3rriv3r
LOL I found out that initially there was only one bar. Then they added another one with a patch. Hehe this is really hilarious.

Actually it's a good thing... Lots of post crying about this on forums, so there is a big chance that they might change their stance on this soon.

Btw. I personally think they should give F2P players 4 bars and then charge for additional 2 if they want it.

I just checked my server, the cheapest quickslot purchase in the GTN is 500k.  A good 150k above the amount any preferred player can have at any time. 

If a preferred player can't afford to buy the quickslot in the GTN then they have to pay cash.  Criticism still stands.

There isn't a single unlock on the GTN for less than that 500k.  I'll spend my ,omey elsewhere.

Originally posted by FrodoFragins

I just checked my server, the cheapest quickslot purchase in the GTN is 500k.  A good 150k above the amount any preferred player can have at any time. 

 

If a preferred player can't afford to buy the quickslot in the GTN then they have to pay cash.  Criticism still stands.

 

There isn't a single unlock on the GTN for less than that 500k.  I'll spend my ,omey elsewhere.

 

 

 

It's not going to sell. I am sure there were many more but got sold out and only the ones from players without brains are still on market. I've seen stuff placed on GTN with prices that made me laugh. But sure thing is that the cheap ones will go fast... it's the hottest sell right now...