Originally posted by Biskop

Wow, the entertainment value of the MO forums was suddenly raised to 2011 levels!

Theia, what made you suddenly decide to come back here? Thought you got banned for trolling.

But anyway, I give you a 8/10 popcorn rating so far, keep it up bro!

Hey Biskop - nice to see you!!  

It's been an absolute age since I've been over here but to be honest I got so upset last time that I needed to stay away (for a long, long time) - you know how it is, your daughter might not be a looker but it's still really painful thing to hear.  Thankfully she's matured into more of the swan these days! OK ok so sometimes the truth hurts and there are many valid comments made on this board - some however, are so, so wrong and painful to read that it casued me to lose the plot with some of the posters. So I stayed away until I felt able to come back and constructuvely discuss Mortal.  That said I am wearing a blood-pressure monitor and when it starts beeping again I'll take another break - I guess the trick is to know when that point is approaching and act before losing it. 

Erm, we're not allowed to discuss bans are we?  That'll get me banned!  I see what you did there!!  

Ta muchly for the popcorn rating - if I get to 10/10 do I get a forum award? 

Originally posted by GMTheia

Originally posted by argirop

Originally posted by GMTheia

Thanks very much!!  Am making a note of the positive stuff over here - and will be re-posting these sorts of posts internally to the team! 

Am also making a note of the sensible things we can change from feedback over here too. 

 

 

I ve being on and off playing MO since beta block B. Was in game after every god damn patch that was supposed to bring MO back to trail. I ve reading the forums but i m not posting much. Claiming that giving feedback to SV is just lame and unethical by your side. Only thing you do is as cm to do some viral marketing to the point you think you can. Let me ask you smt mate: can you link me 1 suggestion written by players as a feedback or suggestion in official Mo forums that made it to the game or had an effect to the game? The only one that you may find is the donation option. So i suggest you let aside the bs regarding transfering feedback. SV never gaved a shit about what paying customers where thinking.

So to me you are either extremely naive thinking that SV will change and MO will become a game either very cunning. In any case MO will not become anything more than it is as long as you guys pretending to be developers, GM's, councilors, mods etc etc.

And enough with the green blinding and shinning colours. It doesnt make you look more important than anyone arround nor gives emphasis or reliability to your word. 

Very quick to drop the unethical comment.. The state of the game and how to help MO move forward is a constant topic of debate in the team to suggest otherwise is just plain wrong.  In fact it's about as wrong as you can get.  Since you don't know me, have not worked with me you'd think that perhaps caution would be required before making such baseless acusations. 

As a pointer to just how inaccurate your comments are...

I m not quick at all. I m around MO and SV for more than 3 years. Probably more than you so i have a very good idea on how you handle your business. Plain wrong is to treat your customers as you do and repeating the same crap again and again without taking any responsibility and without paying for your mistakes. Whats wrong or not hasnt got any value at all when its coming from youand the only fact from the things you mentioned is that you are in deep shit and the only responsible for that is you. By pointing you i certainly dont judging you but since you are here with a heavy signature my guess is that you representing the company. So your argument about not me not knowing you, havent worked with you and the rest is invalid cause i never judged you as a person nor i was entitled to do something like that. From the other hand i m perfectly entitled to judge you as a professional and i believe i do have the right to judge the company you representing as a paying customer. You might not like what you are about to read but appart from that is the truth and truth hurts when shines.

Caution required by your side though and have in mind that you re not discussing with a 15 year old teenager from your playerbase so unless you use valid arguments we wont have a valid conversation. And i m asking you again: can you link to me one suggestion from your very own forums that made it into the game appart from the donation thingy? If not claiming that SV cares for positive feedback and suggestion is lie, lame and unethical.

So to me you are either extremely naive thinking that SV will change and MO will become a game either very cunning. In any case MO will not become anything more than it is as long as you guys pretending to be developers, GM's, councilors, mods etc etc.

You think they're all the same guys? Wrong.  Period. Yet you speak of it like it is fact... how  very odd.  There is not a single GM that is also a Mod.  I do not manage the queues on the Mod pages one little bit and I never have.

Even though your arguments are still vague and shallow i will answear to you straightly: no i dont think everyones the same. One of your problems in SV is that theres absolutely no hierarchy in your ranks. GM's arent moderators? Who is Athanas? isnt he a GM? how can you explain the fact that he removed my posts in the middle of a discussion with Sebastian and when i asked him in tells why did he do that and whats his job description he banned me for serious trolling.  

 I have replied to many posts where I have knowledge - but the Mod team do a great job for us and if you do some research you'll find there are quite a few of them.  The Mods are NOT GM's LM Demtri will occassionally pop into the GM channel for a chat but that's about as much face time as we get with him.  And your crowning comment? Tthe GM's are Developers.  Oh now that is golden.  I cannot code, neither can Discord or any of the rest of us, none of us can do UDK or Maya - so if that's the standard of you knowledge about SV and MO - I guess it explains a lot of your other 'opinions'.  Baseless. 

As it is about GM's not being developers dont tell that to me. Tell that to your pall Discord who acts as a developer, Ceo, moderator, lead GM, councilor, community manager, the soul of the company etc etc.

Its easy to call my opinion baseless and specially when you cant back up your word. No news to me though. Thats your (=SV's) standing for the short time you are alive as a company. Total lack of professionalism.

Thanks for that!  

Thank you too.

Originally posted by GMTheia

e but to be honest I got so upset last time that I needed to stay away (for a long, long time) - you know how it is, your daughter might not be a looker but it's still really painful thing to hear.  Thankfully she's matured into more of the swan these days! OK ok so sometimes the truth hurts and there are many valid comments made on this board - some however, are so, so wrong and painful to read 

Great quote in the first part there....

Sorry but what has been posted that is so wrong?  Popcorn is ready... would LOVE to hear it.

SV-sponsored topic disruption #985135.

I wouldn't wait for an answer on that one, psyko.

Originally posted by GMTheia

Actually donations have gone really well - we're very pleased.  There will be some news soon about which elements will be accelerated. 

We will be able to get lots of new 3d art (terrain, models etc) or old elements that badly need an update done as a result of these generous members of our community helping out. These same folk frequent this site too - so nice to see that they're not put off even a little by some of the more vociferous opinions against Mortal Online. 

So sorry to see that lots of folk here are still unhappy but SV and MO will continue on for many years regardless of the prophecies of those (frankly) not in the know and not close enough to SV to get an actual clear view of what's happening internally.  It is noteworthy that despite all of that we are very much still here with a roadmap and the passion to continue on.

Everyone is fine (thanks!) - Sebbe and team are still coding away, patches have not decreased in frequency - when we're ready  (and only then) we will market the game. 

In the meantime the gears in SV will continue to turn until we have the game that those who get the vision have wanted from day 1.

Much Love 

GM Theia 

PS – I admit this site broke me the last time I came over here – some of the stuff being said is breathtaking.  So I encourage people to continue to make up their own minds and not listen to folk who have not logged into Mortal for.. years. We had a very rough launch however the game continues to improve and we will not give up until we have the World that is at the core of the vision of Mortal Online. 

Theia I like you, you know that :) Guys Theia seriously is one of the few good GM's over there, always tried his best to communicate with the players. Having said that.....

Few weeks ago I sent Discord a PM asking him about the state of the game and telling him the pop was dying again, his response was "I don't know what we're doing wrong, we keep adding stuff but people keep leaving". After rolling on the floor in laughter I directed him to the last 50 posts I'd made on the MO forums pointing out why pop was dying.

The only reason MO will survive more than a year is because of Henrik's daddy's money, he's come out and said as much. But that begs the question, when does it stop being a game and become a project a few amatuers work on it. UO shards have pops 10 times as large, that game is 15 years old and ironically the players SV were targetting.

The game is that bad now it's going to start hurting your rep Theia if you keep defending it blindingly. Discord needs to go, devs need to communicate alot better and maybe then some of the shit community left will go grief in some other game and some good players will come back. As it stand the only people left in MO are the griefers, exploiters, cheaters and the blind. 

Theia, I like you, you seem like a good guy but the people you work for are just not capable of producing a quality product worth paying AAA prices for, its a simple as that, there's just broken stuff on top of more broken stuff. 

Most of us who have played MO for any amount of time have come to realise this. Its just a mess over there, you've got GM's and Councilors playing the game which is a big no no, even the lead GM makes some really suspect decisions, there's even been appeals for him to stand down which get deleted from the forums as he's so corrupt, we've all seen the youtube videos.

Bugs cause the players to lose stuff all the time to dying, falling through solid objects, getting stuck or houses just disappear to bugs which are never replaced, bugs go unrepaired for years but we get told they're fixed over and over but theyr'e not. The terrible prediction system, Its just a farce and now they're basically begging for funds for a public owned company that's somehow bleeding out at a rate of $17000 a month according to the recent financial reports.

I appreciate they're trying but that just doesn't make up for ineptitude and choosing an engine not fit for purpose which hadn't been proven before in an MMO game. They have a good idea and perhaps a noble cause but at the end of the day its just a bad Unreal 3 mod which is full of bugs and a player base, not entirely made up of shit talking cheaters, dupers, and net limiter users (lag switching).  I think you're flogging a dead horse over here, most of us are wise to it now, its really time the rest of you caught up. These are things that reporting back will not change, we've been there 3 years or more reporting bugs, making suggestions, you're wasting your time and effort.

Originally posted by cirsyndic
The "donations" are a tax evasion. Last time there was a big investor lined up for SV & MO, Henrik asked them to "donate" the money so SV doesn't have to pay tax on the investment. The investor pulled out immediately.

I suspected that anyway. Got any written source on that info though?

That's what Henrik meant when he said "normally only a small part of the subscription fees goes into SV's pockets". He meant taxes.

Originally posted by Rilman

Theia, I like you, you seem like a good guy but the people you work for are just not capable of producing a quality product worth paying AAA prices for, its a simple as that, there's just broken stuff on top of more broken stuff. 

Most of us who have played MO for any amount of time have come to realise this. Its just a mess over there, you've got GM's and Councilors playing the game which is a big no no, even the lead GM makes some really suspect decisions, there's even been appeals for him to stand down which get deleted from the forums as he's so corrupt, we've all seen the youtube videos.

Bugs cause the players to lose stuff all the time to dying, falling through solid objects, getting stuck or houses just disappear to bugs which are never replaced, bugs go unrepaired for years but we get told they're fixed over and over but theyr'e not. The terrible prediction system, Its just a farce and now they're basically begging for funds for a public owned company that's somehow bleeding out at a rate of $17000 a month according to the recent financial reports.

I appreciate they're trying but that just doesn't make up for ineptitude and choosing an engine not fit for purpose which hadn't been proven before in an MMO game. They have a good idea and perhaps a noble cause but at the end of the day its just a bad Unreal 3 mod which is full of bugs and a player base, not entirely made up of shit talking cheaters, dupers, and net limiter users (lag switching).  I think you're flogging a dead horse over here, most of us are wise to it now, its really time the rest of you caught up. These are things that reporting back will not change, we've been there 3 years or more reporting bugs, making suggestions, you're wasting your time and effort.

+1

Originally posted by Genadi
"devs need to communicate alot better and maybe then some of the shit community left will go grief in some other game and some good players will come back. As it stand the only people left in MO are the griefers, exploiters, cheaters and the blind". 

Wow... Just wow. This sure is coming from someone that have no clue at all. I play the game, and I for one don´t run into all these griefers and exploiters that you apperantly know is there. Why spread these lies, when you have no clue. And have you visited the MO forums? Sebastian, Henrik etc are more or less communicating with their playerbase on a daily bases. They DO listen to peoples suggestions from things like this thread for instance about MOs PVP: http://www.mortalonline.com/forums/threads/is-pvp-less-skillbased-or-more-since.80435/page-12 So why even spread lies like this? I don´t get it. Sure there is some griefers. You got that in ALL sandbox MMOs. Nothing new or unique to MO. But it´s not like you get killed as soon as you see another player in MO. Most solo players do OK. Those in guilds have their own enemies, and most do have "friendly PVP" arrangements with others. And the game as it is now, is in a better state that I´ve ever seen it since I started playing almost 2 years ago.

Originally posted by Norpan

Originally posted by Genadi
"devs need to communicate alot better and maybe then some of the shit community left will go grief in some other game and some good players will come back. As it stand the only people left in MO are the griefers, exploiters, cheaters and the blind". 

Wow... Just wow. This sure is coming from someone that have no clue at all.

 

I play the game, and I for one don´t run into all these griefers and exploiters that you apperantly know is there. Why spread these lies, when you have no clue. And have you visited the MO forums?

"Wow... Just wow. This sure is coming from someone that have no clue at all. "

Attacking someone does nothing for your cause, especially in that manner.

I know that they is there :p Most people playing know that they is there, the devs and GM's have admitted as recently as last week that they is still there.

You go on to again say I have no clue when indeed I do, notice Theia a GM for the game hasn't denied the exploiting etc in all of the threads here mentioning it... you know why... because he knows that they is there.. up in dem hills dey is dair.

After that you accuse me of being a liar? What motive to I have to lie? Why would I and loads of others here bother making up such extreme accusations unless we'd experienced things first hand?

To answer your last question I have been a forum member and unfortunately a subber of MO from Alpha. Just recently unsubbed along with my brother after having seen two years of GM and dev fail.

Originally posted by SaintPhilip

Originally posted by Genadi

Originally posted by Norpan

Originally posted by Genadi
"devs need to communicate alot better and maybe then some of the shit community left will go grief in some other game and some good players will come back. As it stand the only people left in MO are the griefers, exploiters, cheaters and the blind". 

Wow... Just wow. This sure is coming from someone that have no clue at all.

 

I play the game, and I for one don´t run into all these griefers and exploiters that you apperantly know is there. Why spread these lies, when you have no clue. And have you visited the MO forums?

 

"Wow... Just wow. This sure is coming from someone that have no clue at all. "

 

Attacking someone does nothing for your cause, especially in that manner.

 

I know that they is there :p Most people playing know that they is there, the devs and GM's have admitted as recently as last week that they is still there.

 

You go on to again say I have no clue when indeed I do, notice Theia a GM for the game hasn't denied the exploiting etc in all of the threads here mentioning it... you know why... because he knows that they is there.. up in dem hills dey is dair.

 

After that you accuse me of being a liar? What motive to I have to lie? Why would I and loads of others here bother making up such extreme accusations unless we'd experienced things first hand?

To answer your last question I have been a forum member and unfortunately a subber of MO from Alpha. Just recently unsubbed along with my brother after having seen two years of GM and dev fail.

Ignore him.

He comes around every few months and then when proven wrong dissapears... His last appearance was before "awakening" and (as usual) we were correct in the condition it would ship and he argued and argued and name called- THEN when it released, he dissapeared so as not have to answer for his statements...Now he is back, stirring up trouble yet again.

He never answers questions and once he is clearly making wrong and incorrect statements he just "goes away" and thinks he can pop back inmonths later and nobody remembers...Its a pattern.

I think that one is Henrik himself, so cut him some slack, he's got no real job to do.

Originally posted by Biskop

Wow, the entertainment value of the MO forums was suddenly raised to 2011 levels!

Theia, what made you suddenly decide to come back here? Thought you got banned for trolling.

But anyway, I give you a 8/10 popcorn rating so far, keep it up bro!

I agree, I might have to post again if Theia is back!

He did completely ignore the question that matters most though - how is MO going to survive when it has made a loss every month for over 2 years, the population (and therefore revenue) is shrinking (contrary to Theia's own claims), and there is zero interest from investors. There are two options - either they are working for free and have outside jobs (meaning little time for development) or someone is funding them off the books (Henrik's father, savings). The company cannot survive in it's current form, and it's simply a question of how long they are willing to continue that funding. The company has shown it cannot improve the product to anywhere close to industry standard, so any claim that advertising is going to make the game suddenly profitable is nonsense. Your core market has already tried this game and decided it is terrible, but you think the average gamer is going to save you?

Btw Theia, since you are now Event Manager, and the post announcing it praised your successful handling of events in the past, could you give us a run down on how your previous events in MO went. Thanks.

Originally posted by Betel

Originally posted by Biskop

Wow, the entertainment value of the MO forums was suddenly raised to 2011 levels!

Theia, what made you suddenly decide to come back here? Thought you got banned for trolling.

But anyway, I give you a 8/10 popcorn rating so far, keep it up bro!

 

Btw Theia, since you are now Event Manager, and the post announcing it praised your successful handling of events in the past, could you give us a run down on how your previous events in MO went. Thanks.

 

 

I think her  "qualifications" are covered here http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/368455/Theia-Stepping-Down-as-CM-Becoming-the-Event-Manager.html

Originally posted by deathshroud
Theia is a he just so you know..

Then why pick a name meaning Goddess?