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  grindwars2

Novice Member

Joined: 11/18/12
Posts: 4

 
OP  11/18/12 12:26:31 PM#1

This post is about this

https://forum-en.guildwars2.com/forum/game/gw2/Thoughts-on-Ascended-Gear-Merged-threads/page/205

If you don't know what's going on, don't bother posting, go check the posts in the game's forums while they are still there (moderation eventually waters them down or supresses the ones targetted at them, or qotes to their manifesto or any pre-release material).

 

They used us to herald the game and build the hype, the LIED about the game features,  now they finally managed to screw us they won't even call anymore lol. Go ahead guys, have a laugh and say you told us so.

 

They sold us a game that was opposite to this garbage. They totally 180 on their manifesto and suckered everyone who pre-purchased and supported them from the beginning. This is more than marketing, this is false advertisement. If any collective legal action is possible, i'm in.

 

 

 

Follow the link and have a laugh at us pre-purchasers. Many of you told us so.

"At the core of Guild Wars 2 is this simple concept. Respect for the player's intelligence, respect for the player's time, respect for the player's investment, and respect, even reverence, for the genre."

Another link for your amusement:

"Respect the player

We respect you—as a player, as a human being. This game we’re making may end up competing with your real life. It might fight for your free time alongside your friends, your family, your work, and whatever else you might be doing. Because of that, we want to give you a meaningful experience, not one that is a vapid waste of your time. Whatever your reasons for spending time in Tyria, we don’t want to waste it by doing stuff that isn’t fun.

Purpose: To keep us honest"

 



Respect for your intelligence: They tell you ascended is there to "fill the 'gap' between exotics and legendary". Uhuh, right, all the sudden there's a gap to be filled, folks! Then you get a response that doesn't say anything.  Don't you find the double talk disrespectful?

Respect for your time: You follow the game for years, keep reading all that awesome "no grind" "is it fun?" "game we'd like to play" talk. It launches, it's great, you invest *600+ hours* into it thinking you'll be playing an awesome game for years and BAM they bail on the game's core 'design philosophies'.

Respect for the player investment: Fully supportive players who have pre-purchased it thinking it would be what they said it was going to be *can't get a refund* now they have decided to change the game.

 


 

 

  Alot

Novice Member

Joined: 1/04/11
Posts: 1984

Minister of Propaganda for GW2 Fascist-Capitalist Party

11/18/12 12:34:19 PM#2

What.

Tell me, random forum user, what is your gripe with ANet/GW2 that angers you so much that you decide to create a thread about it, in order to vent your frustration?

  freston

Apprentice Member

Joined: 8/20/07
Posts: 527

11/18/12 12:34:55 PM#3
Do you honestly want to get a refund on a buy to play game after spending 3 months playing it? On second thoughts, i didnt enjoy the Avengers that much, i may just ask the cinema for my money back too.
  Dreamo84

Defender of Worlds

Joined: 5/20/04
Posts: 2910

I actually still like MMORPGs

11/18/12 12:34:59 PM#4
So dramatic. It's a video game, if you don't like it stop playing. Get over it. I love my MMORPGs but some people are just way to emotionally dependent on their games.

  sumdumguy1

Hard Core Member

Joined: 2/20/11
Posts: 684

11/18/12 12:35:31 PM#5
I would still say yes.  Many, many people are playing and many more people will play again the future.  As GW1 did, this game will evolve and people will play and enjoy it.   People are gonna hate and people are gonna be fan boys.  Then there are the majority, the others, who just play games and don't worry about the drama.
  WhiteLantern

Novice Member

Joined: 1/27/10
Posts: 2778

11/18/12 12:40:34 PM#6
Originally posted by freston
Do you honestly want to get a refund on a buy to play game after spending 3 months playing it? On second thoughts, i didnt enjoy the Avengers that much, i may just ask the cinema for my money back too.

Didn't like the Avengers!? Heresy!!!

I want a mmorpg where people have gone through misery, have gone through school stuff and actually have had sex even. -sagil

  Phry

Elite Member

Joined: 7/01/04
Posts: 5210

11/18/12 12:41:48 PM#7
Originally posted by Alot

What.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Tell me, random forum user, what is your gripe with ANet/GW2 that angers you so much that you decide to create a thread about it, in order to vent your frustration?

we'll probably never know...  unless he decides to actually say something that isnt just some pseudo intellectual bullcxxp ..  thats the thing about pseudo intellectuals, they exist only to annoy the real ones

  Torvaldr

Elite Member

Joined: 6/10/09
Posts: 5671

11/18/12 12:43:51 PM#8
Respect is earned.  How can I have any respect for the op who hides behind an alt account.  The rest is just like Phry said, pseudo intellectual bullshit.

I think a mind wipe so people could play an mmo like it was their first time again, would be easier to build than a new mmo people here would actually like. - DamonVile

  Icewhite

Made History

Joined: 7/11/11
Posts: 6495

Pink, it's like red but not quite.

11/18/12 12:44:19 PM#9
Originally posted by Alot

What.

Apparently something pissed him off enough to...create a new alt far from the source of his discontent.

Ineffectual, but at least it's relatively safe from consquence.

Self-pity imprisons us in the walls of our own self-absorption. The whole world shrinks down to the size of our problem, and the more we dwell on it, the smaller we are and the larger the problem seems to grow.

  grindwars2

Novice Member

Joined: 11/18/12
Posts: 4

 
OP  11/18/12 12:58:24 PM#10
I've made this account to post this. It's the only one. They changed the foundations of the game they said they were gonna make. The ones who followed the game the longest and bought it upfront got shafted. Any trolls need more clarification?  They shafted us and they deserve no credibility and I will spread the word anywhere I can.
  Purutzil

Elite Member

Joined: 10/02/11
Posts: 2848

The Critical Hit Pretzel!

11/18/12 1:02:44 PM#11

Well not wanting to fuel this topic much, I have to admit i always felt they spoke condensending of the player with a lot of their blog posts addressing stuff. In particular the 'things you can do at the end' post in particular felt like a jab at players calling them out as idiots. I feel its more of the 'one know better then you' tone they try to push out as if they know everything and think your wrong that they tend to present in their posts that irks me.

 

That being said, its more of the tone they use rather then direct issues I've seen so I can't go about completely bashing away at them.

  tawess

Elite Member

Joined: 3/24/05
Posts: 1977

11/18/12 1:03:30 PM#12

No changing the game would be to add a new teir above Legendary.

 

That have yet to happen. The way i see it/understand it is that people felt that thing got a bit boring on the way tp the top and wanted a smaller goal to reach on the way to get some extra "pat on the shoulder" and seeing as Anet is completley dependent on people getting the next expansion i would think that bending to the majority would be a wise move.

 

But what do i know, i neither play GW2 nor do a design games.

Tomas Soapbox

This have been a good conversation

  BizkitNL

Old School

Joined: 12/29/02
Posts: 2285

"Free to play, pay to win""

11/18/12 1:04:35 PM#13
Somewhere down the line you forgot why you started gaming.

Feel like trying Planetside 2? Get a headstart with the starter kit!

  Torvaldr

Elite Member

Joined: 6/10/09
Posts: 5671

11/18/12 1:06:58 PM#14
Originally posted by lestatt35
I've made this account to post this. It's the only one. They changed the foundations of the game they said they were gonna make. The ones who followed the game the longest and bought it upfront got shafted. Any trolls need more clarification?  They shafted us and they deserve no credibility and I will spread the word anywhere I can.

The game plays the same for me. Signed one of the people who's played and followed the game since GW1 launch day.

Don't be an asshat on their forums, just like here, and you won't get banned.  Wow, rocket science I tell you.

Since you're new here, know that if you act out here, like you did on the ANet forums, you'll see the same consequence.  That includes calling people who disagree with you trolls.  Gee, see how that works?

I think a mind wipe so people could play an mmo like it was their first time again, would be easier to build than a new mmo people here would actually like. - DamonVile

  User Deleted
11/18/12 1:07:04 PM#15
How many threads like this are really necessary?  Why not just post in one of the several threads that already hit on this subject.
  BizkitNL

Old School

Joined: 12/29/02
Posts: 2285

"Free to play, pay to win""

11/18/12 1:09:02 PM#16
Originally posted by Purutzil

Well not wanting to fuel this topic much, I have to admit i always felt they spoke condensending of the player with a lot of their blog posts addressing stuff. In particular the 'things you can do at the end' post in particular felt like a jab at players calling them out as idiots. I feel its more of the 'one know better then you' tone they try to push out as if they know everything and think your wrong that they tend to present in their posts that irks me.

 

That being said, its more of the tone they use rather then direct issues I've seen so I can't go about completely bashing away at them.

That is exactly what has appealed to me (and others I guess) so much. Not the tone, exactly, since that is straight-up interpretation, but the fact that they intended and still intend to tackle what has become the boring staple of today's MMO's.

That said, people start rioting over the silliest things these days. I still can't quite grasp what is oh-so wrong with what ANet is doing.

Feel like trying Planetside 2? Get a headstart with the starter kit!

  Torvaldr

Elite Member

Joined: 6/10/09
Posts: 5671

11/18/12 1:11:40 PM#17
Originally posted by Purutzil

Well not wanting to fuel this topic much, I have to admit i always felt they spoke condensending of the player with a lot of their blog posts addressing stuff. In particular the 'things you can do at the end' post in particular felt like a jab at players calling them out as idiots. I feel its more of the 'one know better then you' tone they try to push out as if they know everything and think your wrong that they tend to present in their posts that irks me.

That being said, its more of the tone they use rather then direct issues I've seen so I can't go about completely bashing away at them.

Do you see where the whiners went wrong here?  It's kind of like here.  Don't be a total dick.  Don't call the staff or mods idiots or assholes and there is a good chance you can avoid a ban.  Don't repost inflammatory topics, even if you're "right".  It's ood how this sort of thing escapes people.  ANet doesn't have a corner on this market.  Most game forums or fansites don't put up with that sort of thing.

I think a mind wipe so people could play an mmo like it was their first time again, would be easier to build than a new mmo people here would actually like. - DamonVile

  Kuppa

Novice Member

Joined: 9/24/10
Posts: 3443

The problem with censorship is ********

11/18/12 1:12:23 PM#18
It's very obvious that It's more of the same threads and someone from those threads didn't get all the attention they wanted and doesn't just want to create yet another thread to be called for trolling, so they created another account and another thread.


  BizkitNL

Old School

Joined: 12/29/02
Posts: 2285

"Free to play, pay to win""

11/18/12 1:13:47 PM#19
Originally posted by Torvaldr
Originally posted by Purutzil

Well not wanting to fuel this topic much, I have to admit i always felt they spoke condensending of the player with a lot of their blog posts addressing stuff. In particular the 'things you can do at the end' post in particular felt like a jab at players calling them out as idiots. I feel its more of the 'one know better then you' tone they try to push out as if they know everything and think your wrong that they tend to present in their posts that irks me.

That being said, its more of the tone they use rather then direct issues I've seen so I can't go about completely bashing away at them.

Do you see where the whiners went wrong here?  It's kind of like here.  Don't be a total dick.  Don't call the staff or mods idiots or assholes and there is a good chance you can avoid a ban.  Don't repost inflammatory topics, even if you're "right".  It's ood how this sort of thing escapes people.  ANet doesn't have a corner on this market.  Most game forums or fansites don't put up with that sort of thing.

Reminds me of calling customer support. Great article:

http://www.cracked.com/blog/5-idiotic-misconceptions-about-calling-customer-service/

Feel like trying Planetside 2? Get a headstart with the starter kit!

  Icewhite

Made History

Joined: 7/11/11
Posts: 6495

Pink, it's like red but not quite.

11/18/12 1:27:31 PM#20
Originally posted by Castillle

ITS THE APOCALYPSE!

"Doom" will do.   Less typing.

Self-pity imprisons us in the walls of our own self-absorption. The whole world shrinks down to the size of our problem, and the more we dwell on it, the smaller we are and the larger the problem seems to grow.

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