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  Helleri

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“If I had asked people what they wanted, they would have said faster horses.”- Henry Ford

 
OP  11/18/12 3:52:24 AM#1

The news has been out since the 11th but with less then a full 2 days left (their starting the updating on the 19th and plan to be finished by the 20th) I decided to mention something as no news has popped up in the news section of the site, or the news section of the forums that I saw.

 

This is likely the most massive update the game has had to it's core mechanics. It is arguably bigger then graphical updates of the past, even (which is saying a lot for the most prolificly updated MMORPG).

 

Some basic information is available here:

http://services.runescape.com/m=rswiki/en/Evolution_of_Combat#Release_Date_Announced

 

And an in depth live stream with the main Developers can be found here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qtg_L4kByFM&list=FLGpr8LIrdwrEak3GuZLQPwg&index=1&feature=plcp

(it's over an hour long and to get right into it you would need to skip ahead to 1min and 13 seconds).

  MMOExposed

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11/18/12 5:54:57 AM#2
sounds exciting

  Banaghran

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11/18/12 9:38:47 AM#3

We will see.

The biggest concern on my part is how this will fit into the game, the idea of leveling combat (or any other skill) was bas based around the asumption that you have to grind (sometimes literally) a huge amount of monsters, if combat becomes more active, it could cause problems, not everyone is capable or willing to pay 100% attention like in a wow raid for months until his skills are levelled enough. I assume this will be offset by increased exp, and that is why there is this exp reduction for lower monsters, which is still a HERECY :)  in rs and i expect much drama from it.

On a side note, i see they still have the horrendously dark legacy of cain meets steampunk UI theme where npc chatheads are talking out of portholes in a fantasy game and certain items are invisible in the inventory because noone bothered to check if there are any small dark objects in the game (say herb seeds) before changing the inventory backround to dark gray.

Btw, is the bank bug that made people take out items out of the bank in reverse since 2008 finally fixed? :)

Flame on!

:)

  Helleri

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“If I had asked people what they wanted, they would have said faster horses.”- Henry Ford

 
OP  11/18/12 12:32:38 PM#4

Not sure what bug your talking about, my bank works fine besides the fact that I am terrible at organizing it.

 

Yes, seeds suck, they are tiny and hard to pick up. But it does seem like they increased the clickable area on them for the ground and inv.

 

The new combat system has a momentum mode, which will allow players who prefer to simply fight the way they always have the ability to continue to do so. They will have to make minor changes to their tactics, but players have always had to do this with new updates. Their base rate of exp will remain relatively the same as well. So you can still single click semi afk it if you choose. And, one with the momentuim system you will look cooler doing it.

 

But, for those who want deeper levels of involvement in their combat, and want to be rewarded with higher then base damage and rate of exp for coming more prepared and paying more attention. they will get just that. The new system has layers within layers for levels of involvement players may choose to operate at.

 

The person who does their homework on what they plan to train on and comes prepaired, the one who takes true zealousness in their new abilities. They will be rewarded more for their extra effort then the person who just phones it in.

 

What this system really does is fix all the stuff players have been wanting to have fixed within the combat system for years (but, unfortunately wasn't at the time possible). Players wanted sheathable/unsheathable weapons....they got it. they wanted to rebalance the combat triangle, they got that as well. they wanted the combat to steer away from melee-centrism. bingo. Spells have to high of rune cost....not anymore. They wanted combat to look more impressive and be more fun over all. they have it. Everything the community has wanted for combat they are getting and more.

 

This of course is all discussed in the live stream I linked to in my OP (FYI: the live stream actually starts about a minute in and they are primarly done speaking about EOC after 35 min - at which point it moves into twitter questions and general Q&A).

 

The two major contentions naysayers have always had with runescape is the shallow combat system, and graphical quality. I personaly make the argument that the style of graphics is merely different but the quality of that style is above most MMO's (like a brick wall is made of individual bricks and mortar, not just a flat panel with a low rez wall texture slapped on it like in most MMO, or the terrain having true dimension and attention to minor details).

 

But the point is they will have fixed one of these major contentions within the next couple days....and in this comming year....runescape 3 hits. The graphical jump promises to be greater then that which was made from classic to modern runescape. Here is some images using black armour to demonstrate how runescape used to look vs how it does now:

 

Runescape Classic's black armour (there were no trimmed black armours then).


Modern Black Armour (t)

Modern Black Armour (g)


Elite Black Armour (player is not wearing the gloves or boots in this image unfortunately).

...and just for funzies this is how I choose to sport black (t) [with twisted birdskull necklace, halloween event item skull mask, and monsater sceptre).

But I like to wear my 10 year cape since the krils armour skin and flame lash skin came out (working on dfs and korasai's sword)....but I am starting to get away from my point.

Now that's all done on java. Runescape in 2013 will be moving to the much more useful, faster, more veristile HTML5. The kind of graphical leap they are talking about making is also side noted by massive up dates. The end of this year and this comming year is going to be the biggest in the games history.

  Banaghran

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11/18/12 10:02:06 PM#5

As for bank bug, try to take out non stacked items in sequence, at some point you will arrive at a situation where you clearly click A, B, C , they "blink", but you will take out A, C, E, because the engine works with indexes instead of IDs, thus by taking out A the items reordered and C has now B's index, may be lag caused and related to the number of tabs and items.

As for the graphics improvements, rs had certain simplistic style, its own, nowadays it just looks like a N64 platform jumper, all fuzzy, cute and cartoonish, and all the detail put into characters and monsters is nice, but wasted if you consider that most people play zoomed out to max, and due to the engines inability to handle that kind of graphical complexity, all but the people with gaming computers have some kind of performance problems. With a game that advertises to run on everything and everywhere due to java. It gets kinda funny of you consider that the most graphically taxing area is the starting area in burthorpe, nothing like slamming new players with low fps and a watemill :)

Which still does not stop me from looking like a samurai, in a medieval crusader armor and viking helmet (proselyte + neitiznot)...

As for seeds, i meant in the inventory, as mentioned before, in medieval game with a dark metallic looking UI :)

As for HTML5, well, they should have your prayers, they will need all the help they can get :)

Flame on!

:)