Originally posted by Gaborik

Originally posted by mercurykev
I was also not told about the instances at point of sale which means Turbine is obtaining money by deceipt - which is illegal

 

http://forums.lotro.com/showthread.php?464108-A-word-about-the-Riders-of-Rohan-Pre-Purchase-packs. Read that, again if you were an active member of lotro you would have known this. The only one who has any deceipt is you by posting false claims about a game.

Or here on MMORPG.

http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/354105/Turbine-threatens-to-ban-players-for-pursuing-refunds-of-their-new-expansion.html

Originally posted by mercurykev

Riders of Rohan what a waste of money, no new instances, take away mounted combat which is very laggy/buggy not smooth at all and you have nothing for the price of £30.

Im sure somewhere i saw it get an award for the best expansion of 2012 if this was the case then we are being lied too.

That doesn't sound like the game i'm playing. Are you sure it's lotro you're playing?

In my opinion Lotro continues to be a great game with a great community, especially on Laurelin, RoR has added more depth and Turbine keep developing the game all the time. I play mmorpgs for immersion in the game world and Lotro has that for me. Am I a fanboy? Maybe, but i'm also someone who can see quality in a game after 30 years of PC gaming.

Yes Lotro is easy to play, that's it's biggest fault maybe, but that's a reaction to the trend in mmorpgs towards solo and casual gaming in the last few years. In fact apart from EVE I haven't played a game for a long time that wasn't easy to solo, including ToR and TSW, and of course Rift (probably easier than Lotro). If you are playing for a challenge when levelling then I think you've missed the point of lotro (or any mmo these days). There is far more to it than that, plenty that other games lack.

Originally posted by pwain

I startet with RoR this week. I played with my wife and we both think, after playing star wars and guild wars 2, lotro feels old. It funny to follow the story quests and the mount is nice. But the world, the interface and the quests are just boring.

 

I play it until I finish the story quest and then I go back to GW2

After SWTOR LOTRO feels...old?

SWTOR is year(s) behind LOTRO, SWTOR felt very outdated from the box. User interface?

RoR is best LOTOR expansion so far, im pleasantly surprised that Turbine did so well (i have level 85 and am happily rebuilding Hytbold :) )

Originally posted by Gaborik

Originally posted by asmkm22
I pretty much stopped playing when they added in the cash shop mannequins to the towns.  I've hated the cash shop since it was introduced, but that was the last nail for me.

 

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They lost a player over it.

Originally posted by avalon1000
Finally broke down and bought the expac. The war steeds are horrible. Just awful. More legendary crap to have to go after and the controls are the pits. Listen up Turbine...you should have left the controls like they were in the original horses...what were you thinking!? LOTRO still has the best community and I guess I can ignore mounted combat. The game has a bloated feeling in general...everything loads slow as comparfed to Guild Wars 2 and the combat is horrid in comparision to GW2. Trubine, time to start over with Rohan west. Scrap the game and start over with the next expac....trust me you will be better off if you want to have players up to Mordor.

have to disagree..i bought the xpac and i am thoroughly enjoying the mounted combat.controls are easy once you allocate turn rate points etc..i was all over the place to start with,now its just second nature.why your comparing lotro to  gw2 is beyond me..there is 5 yrs difference between games.

what i am suprised with is all the people who stopped loggin in ,in our kin are back..global is back to normal in numbers.it did drop dramatically when gw2 came out but seems that either most have came back or they just purchased the xpac because gw2 costs nothing sub wise..the latter being the logical explanation.

you are correct that lotro has a fantastic community..and i for one will not stop playing this game til they close it down..only mmo i have stuck longer than 2 yrs..i suppose its each to their own.

Originally posted by avalon1000
Finally broke down and bought the expac. The war steeds are horrible. Just awful. More legendary crap to have to go after and the controls are the pits. Listen up Turbine...you should have left the controls like they were in the original horses...what were you thinking!? LOTRO still has the best community and I guess I can ignore mounted combat. The game has a bloated feeling in general...everything loads slow as comparfed to Guild Wars 2 and the combat is horrid in comparision to GW2. Trubine, time to start over with Rohan west. Scrap the game and start over with the next expac....trust me you will be better off if you want to have players up to Mordor.

Why are you finding it hard to control? I belt around at top speed without any problems. Go into Option and Combat Options and turn on Warsteed autostop. The Warsteed will come to halt when you take your finger off the button. Personally I use two mouse buttons for movement and i'm having no problems at all. Mounted combat feels fine, you have to pull the horse around to reengage, but that feels realistic. I'm afraid your failure to grasp the controls doesn't make it a bad expansion. If the old horse controls are better why do I now spend all of my riding time on my Warsteed?

Originally posted by kevjards

Originally posted by avalon1000
Finally broke down and bought the expac. The war steeds are horrible. Just awful. More legendary crap to have to go after and the controls are the pits. Listen up Turbine...you should have left the controls like they were in the original horses...what were you thinking!? LOTRO still has the best community and I guess I can ignore mounted combat. The game has a bloated feeling in general...everything loads slow as comparfed to Guild Wars 2 and the combat is horrid in comparision to GW2. Trubine, time to start over with Rohan west. Scrap the game and start over with the next expac....trust me you will be better off if you want to have players up to Mordor.

 

what i am suprised with is all the people who stopped loggin in ,in our kin are back..global is back to normal in numbers.it did drop dramatically when gw2 came out but seems that either most have came back or they just purchased the xpac because gw2 costs nothing sub wise..the latter being the logical explanation.

I found the same. A few went off to try GW2 but came back after a couple of weeks.

In terms of end-game, this most certainly is the worst expansion....ever.

For casuals, meh, mounted combat is ok, there are lots of boring quests to get you 10 meaningless levels.

Yes land-wise it is larger than Moria, but most of that is just plain boring terrain with no content in it...

Moria had SEVEN 6-man instances plus a raid, not to mention three 3-mans, another 6-man and a multi-boss raid several months afterwards.

It has gone steadily downhill since Moria, Isengard had one lair raid, that was supposed to already be out, at launch.

Rohan has nothing, The "Hytbold" is horrific, honestly the most pathetic excuse for "endgame" in the history of MMOs. You might be saying, "Well at least we will get that instance cluster before the end of the year like they said, right"

Well, maybe. It is already mid-November and we have officially heard ABSOLUTELY NOTHING about something that is supposed to be out in less than a month.

And if there are any serious raiders left in LOTRO who are still holding out for this Instance Cluster, don't waste your time. I can't say the specifics, but prepare to be TREMENDOUSLY disappointed.

The end-game population in LOTRO should have all left after Isengard, most of them did. Anyone left is just being silly at this point.

With that said, this is still a nice option for casual gamers, especially with it being f2p.

Originally posted by mnwild1998

Originally posted by nolins12

In terms of end-game, this most certainly is the worst expansion....ever.

For casuals, meh, mounted combat is ok, there are lots of boring quests to get you 10 meaningless levels.

Yes land-wise it is larger than Moria, but most of that is just plain boring terrain with no content in it...

Moria had SEVEN 6-man instances plus a raid, not to mention three 3-mans, another 6-man and a multi-boss raid several months afterwards.

It has gone steadily downhill since Moria, Isengard had one lair raid, that was supposed to already be out, at launch.

 

Rohan has nothing, The "Hytbold" is horrific, honestly the most pathetic excuse for "endgame" in the history of MMOs. You might be saying, "Well at least we will get that instance cluster before the end of the year like they said, right"

Well, maybe. It is already mid-November and we have officially heard ABSOLUTELY NOTHING about something that is supposed to be out in less than a month.

And if there are any serious raiders left in LOTRO who are still holding out for this Instance Cluster, don't waste your time. I can't say the specifics, but prepare to be TREMENDOUSLY disappointed.

The end-game population in LOTRO should have all left after Isengard, most of them did. Anyone left is just being silly at this point.

With that said, this is still a nice option for casual gamers, especially with it being f2p.

For those who play the game and follow the game we know that instance will be coming.  It was not a surprise all of us who enjoy the game knew this.  Pretty sure nobody is going to take you seriously saying we will be tremendously disappointed.  Thanks for the Tro!! post please move along.  Thank you

I've been playing this game almost every day since 2008, I had lots of great times in LOTRO, but lets not kid ourselves. This game no longer cares about it's raiding community, and thats a widely accepted fact at this point.

Originally posted by nolins12

Originally posted by mnwild1998

Originally posted by nolins12

In terms of end-game, this most certainly is the worst expansion....ever.

For casuals, meh, mounted combat is ok, there are lots of boring quests to get you 10 meaningless levels.

Yes land-wise it is larger than Moria, but most of that is just plain boring terrain with no content in it...

Moria had SEVEN 6-man instances plus a raid, not to mention three 3-mans, another 6-man and a multi-boss raid several months afterwards.

It has gone steadily downhill since Moria, Isengard had one lair raid, that was supposed to already be out, at launch.

 

Rohan has nothing, The "Hytbold" is horrific, honestly the most pathetic excuse for "endgame" in the history of MMOs. You might be saying, "Well at least we will get that instance cluster before the end of the year like they said, right"

Well, maybe. It is already mid-November and we have officially heard ABSOLUTELY NOTHING about something that is supposed to be out in less than a month.

And if there are any serious raiders left in LOTRO who are still holding out for this Instance Cluster, don't waste your time. I can't say the specifics, but prepare to be TREMENDOUSLY disappointed.

The end-game population in LOTRO should have all left after Isengard, most of them did. Anyone left is just being silly at this point.

With that said, this is still a nice option for casual gamers, especially with it being f2p.

For those who play the game and follow the game we know that instance will be coming.  It was not a surprise all of us who enjoy the game knew this.  Pretty sure nobody is going to take you seriously saying we will be tremendously disappointed.  Thanks for the Tro!! post please move along.  Thank you

I've been playing this game almost every day since 2008, I had lots of great times in LOTRO, but lets not kid ourselves. This game no longer cares about it's raiding community, and thats a widely accepted fact at this point.

Fair enough. To be honest I couldn't care less. The last thing I want to do in any mmo is grind dungeon raids, there are better things to do in LOTRO once you reach max level. I don't understand why anyone who likes raiding is even playing LOTRO. I hope the raiders do leave and Turbine focus on content in the opne game world.

How the hell can you believe this is the worst expansion ever... What games have the OP played before that has made the standards that high. 

Ive just bought the ROR expansion pack - there is 50% off atm-  and a mmo feels finally fresh...for once this year!