Originally posted by Sleepyfish

Originally posted by aRtFuLThinG

The only problem with ranger is it is too easy :P

 

News flash every class in GW2 is easy. If you cannot master 5 buttons I feel sorry for you.

If you think you just need 5 buttons to play this game, please see me in game my name is Sammy Eli, and I will have a server for sPvP when its in game and you can show me how elite you are with those 5 keys =)

Oh BTW I'll play a Ranger if you like =P

Originally posted by Sleepyfish

Originally posted by aRtFuLThinG

The only problem with ranger is it is too easy :P

 

News flash every class in GW2 is easy. If you cannot master 5 buttons I feel sorry for you.

Its not 5 skills.  Scrub play is easy. 

Still one of the easiest and robust classes to play in the game and anything but weak (just try a non-dual-dagger elementalist some day).  Which is why they're a favorite of the bots.   

Something, btw, I thought was an iron law of MMOs --  in any class based MMO, the class the bot lords use for botting is both extremely durable and extremely easy to play -- and that everyone understood this...

So, imagine my surprise at all the whining...

Looks like my favorite class Warrior still escaped the knife ;)

I will continue to wreck anything that is in my path in PVE and PVP....and not break a sweat.

Originally posted by Whitebeards

Looks like my favorite class Warrior still escaped the knife ;)

I will continue to wreck anything that is in my path in PVE and PVP....and not break a sweat.

My in game name is Sammy Eli, please PM me so I can be wrecked in pvp. I will be off work @ 5

Originally posted by MosesZD

Still one of the easiest and robust classes to play in the game and anything but weak (just try a non-dual-dagger elementalist some day).  Which is why they're a favorite of the bots.   

 

Something, btw, I thought was an iron law of MMOs --  in any class based MMO, the class the bot lords use for botting is both extremely durable and extremely easy to play -- and that everyone understood this...

 

So, imagine my surprise at all the whining...

A.Net probably did part of this to stop bots, it is true. Thanks for bringing a little sanity to this insanity.

Originally posted by Sleepyfish

Originally posted by aRtFuLThinG

The only problem with ranger is it is too easy :P

 

News flash every class in GW2 is easy. If you cannot master 5 buttons I feel sorry for you.

From your comment, I can safely say you have mastered none of the classes yet.

Originally posted by sammyeli

Originally posted by Whitebeards

Looks like my favorite class Warrior still escaped the knife ;)

I will continue to wreck anything that is in my path in PVE and PVP....and not break a sweat.

My in game name is Sammy Eli, please PM me so I can be wrecked in pvp. I will be off work @ 5

Originally posted by sammyeli

Originally posted by Sleepyfish

Originally posted by aRtFuLThinG

The only problem with ranger is it is too easy :P

 

News flash every class in GW2 is easy. If you cannot master 5 buttons I feel sorry for you.

If you think you just need 5 buttons to play this game, please see me in game my name is Sammy Eli, and I will have a server for sPvP when its in game and you can show me how elite you are with those 5 keys =)

 

Oh BTW I'll play a Ranger if you like =P

Im interested to see if anyone takes you up on your offer.  I'm thinking it won't happen though. 
 

Originally posted by Maephisto

Originally posted by sammyeli

Originally posted by Whitebeards

Looks like my favorite class Warrior still escaped the knife ;)

I will continue to wreck anything that is in my path in PVE and PVP....and not break a sweat.

My in game name is Sammy Eli, please PM me so I can be wrecked in pvp. I will be off work @ 5

Originally posted by sammyeli

Originally posted by Sleepyfish

Originally posted by aRtFuLThinG

The only problem with ranger is it is too easy :P

 

News flash every class in GW2 is easy. If you cannot master 5 buttons I feel sorry for you.

If you think you just need 5 buttons to play this game, please see me in game my name is Sammy Eli, and I will have a server for sPvP when its in game and you can show me how elite you are with those 5 keys =)

 

Oh BTW I'll play a Ranger if you like =P

Im interested to see if anyone takes you up on your offer.  I'm thinking it won't happen though. 
 

Well I hope so because there is nothing more thrilling than a challenge in pvp. =P

This is the Arenanet reply to the thread complaining about the lack of Ranger changes relative to the number of issues the profession has:

We made the improvements we had time to test. There are still more ranger improvements but when our time is limited we have to focus on things we know we can fix. Signets and shouts are still on the docket, and I suspect some of each of these will get some love in the next time around. As you can see a lot changed in this build for every profession and we have to test these changes as well.

I do still believe ranger is the profession in most need of improvement after this patch and we will continue to make those improvements. If we could fix everything at one time we would, but the reality is there are a limited # of hours to make changes.

I see a lot of talk about ranger weapons, but I don’t think that is the real problem. I think sword and longbow are both good weapons, which is why the changes take longer. The problems are deeper, in pets ability to hit moving targets, trait lines with not enough viable choices and skills that are often too specialized to really compliment the weapon builds. These aren’t things we can change overnight. The change to Greatsword block was in fact a very difficult change, but we made it because we knew it was the right thing to do.

There are >500 skills in this game, 480 traits, and 2 designers working on this. Even then often we are bottle necked by other issues. I’m not going to say we are not working on these things, nor can I say there are things we could have changed but just ran out of time on, but this was a patch that contained ranger improvements and it will not be the last one that does so. Maybe you want more than honesty but that is what I currently have to offer.

Jon

Originally posted by Whitebeards

Looks like my favorite class Warrior still escaped the knife ;)

I will continue to wreck anything that is in my path in PVE and PVP....and not break a sweat.

Warrior is actually in a pretty good spot. They don't need much of a "knife". They can be usefull and play different roles without beign overpowering like other classes. You are either playing against really bad folks all the time or you're trully a pvp god.....

BTW, I have a level 80 Ranger and don't feel gimped, in any way, with my current build. Though I do enjoy my Sword/Warhorn & Axe/Torch ranger, I do sort of resent the fact that my ranger feels less capable with a Short Bow than my Thief and less capable than a Warrior with a Long Bow. I dream of the day when pets are bug free and working at full potential, but I stil find them useful enough as is to not be a total waste.

So, yeah, I'm not one of those people dropping my Ranger because of the lack of needed fixes, but I look forward to the day when many more builds are viable and I can actually consider a Range focused build for my Ranger!

thats 3 people now that sent me a PM about kicking my ass HOWEVER they do not want to log in to a so called "crap game" there for they cannot do so. 

Keep em coming fellas.

Originally posted by MosesZD

Still one of the easiest and robust classes to play in the game and anything but weak (just try a non-dual-dagger elementalist some day).  Which is why they're a favorite of the bots.   

 

Something, btw, I thought was an iron law of MMOs --  in any class based MMO, the class the bot lords use for botting is both extremely durable and extremely easy to play -- and that everyone understood this...

 

So, imagine my surprise at all the whining...

You are looking at it from a PvE perspective, where pet classes have always been strong at soloing.  The complaints are mostly PvP related.  This is guild wars after all, a game thats suppose to have a heavy focus on pvp.

There have been multiple forum threads about team compositions in Paid tournaments, which can be considered the competitive stage for the most skilled PvPers, and players across the board agree that they do not see many rangers and if they do, they have no trouble defeating them.

Originally posted by umie214
You forgot to mention that most profs were nerfed significantly. Rangers received a massive buff to the most problematic weapon. As someone who mains a ranger I'm content, but expect more changed to come. An entire trait line is useless along with spirits, and pets need a little work.

The GS was the most problematic weapon? Really? Sorry but I think not.

The most telling was the fact they have TWO devs on the whole skills.

That seems a bit lean (business word for lacking); esp for a game of this size.

I never think like this. But maybe I should. When I suck with a class, I always just cry and say "Elikal you suck". Other people think more positive. "It's not me that sucks, it's that damned proc and the nerfed skill X!"

But as I said, I never think like that. I never calculate skills or procs (I don't even KNOW what a proc IS), I play and win or play and lose and delete. *shrug* I mean, I have great respect of all these guys who analyze all that stuff. Really. But for me, a class, a game, it's all feeling. It feels right or it doesn't. And Ranger definitely doesn't. So thanks for telling me why. ^^

Originally posted by TheHavok

Originally posted by DanitaKusor

Originally posted by Sleepyfish

Originally posted by DanitaKusor
What about the incredibly major Mesmer nerf?  I can no longer nuke enemies on top of wall in WvW with my phantasims.  That's a pretty big nerf in my books.

Mesmers actually got a dps buff.

Hmm that might be one way to look at it but if I can't kill enemies in WvW while hiding out of line of sight of them that's a nerf in my books.

Mesmers were considered overpowered.  Additionally you shouldn't be able to kill somebody while line of sighting them.  Mesmers were just put more inline with the other range classes.

Even I with my Asperger could see he was sarcastic.