Originally posted by The_Korrigan

Originally posted by DAHBOO

I purchased the game and paid every month since and now if i go down to prefered i can only keep 2 of my characters active.

WTF?

Wait until you log in and notice you have only two quickslot bars available, making the game totally unplayable at 50.

As much as I think the quickbar thing is punatively handled, I disagree that you *need* more at 50, much less before.  I have 3 50's, all of which have done Ops and HM's, and I still only use 3 bars, 1 of which is just for convenience things (class buff, sprint, speeder, quick travel and fleet travel).  I could easily get by with just the two skill bars.

Also, to address the OP's question...  If you have more than two characters, you can keep them all active as preferred status.  What you wouldn't be able to do is create anymore characters unless you either resub or delete existing characters down to less than 2.  You're basically grandfathered in with your existing characters.

Originally posted by The_Korrigan

Originally posted by DAHBOO

I purchased the game and paid every month since and now if i go down to prefered i can only keep 2 of my characters active.

WTF?

Wait until you log in and notice you have only two quickslot bars available, making the game totally unplayable at 50.

well, yesterdayi  had like... one! :P

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Originally posted by The_Korrigan

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Originally posted by thamighty213

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Originally posted by The_Korrigan

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Originally posted by DAHBOO I purchased the game and paid every month since and now if i go down to prefered i can only keep 2 of my characters active. WTF?

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Wait until you log in and notice you have only two quickslot bars available, making the game totally unplayable at 50.

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Boohoo spend the £2 it costs to get them back account wide or buy them for credits from someone.

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EA and Bioware won then - they forced you to spend money for stuff that should be part of the standard game's UI. You supported a new level of greed in F2P games. After inventory slots, or skills, they now also sell you parts of the UI.

/golfclap.

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Originally posted by kharlan

you get to keep already created chars and can play them all

Until they find the solution to revoke them (they said it earlier)

Edit: Frodo was faster, /hats off

Originally posted by ForumPvP
But that tatttooed guy said that their fans loves them

Voted for Best comment of the week :)

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Originally posted by koljane
People who care about players left Bioware, rest of them are only drons that do as the master said.

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Originally posted by Po_gg

Originally posted by kharlan

you get to keep already created chars and can play them all

Until they find the solution to revoke them (they said it earlier)

Edit: Frodo was faster, /hats off

And how exactly is that different from any other F2P transition?  LotRO does the same thing, for example...

Originally posted by The_Korrigan

Originally posted by thamighty213

Originally posted by The_Korrigan

Originally posted by DAHBOO

I purchased the game and paid every month since and now if i go down to prefered i can only keep 2 of my characters active.

WTF?

Wait until you log in and notice you have only two quickslot bars available, making the game totally unplayable at 50.

Boohoo spend the £2 it costs to get them back account wide or buy them for credits from someone.

EA and Bioware won then - they forced you to spend money for stuff that should be part of the standard game's UI. You supported a new level of greed in F2P games. After inventory slots, or skills, they now also sell you parts of the UI.

/golfclap.

Did you even read what I wrote.

They havent forced you to spend diddly squat,  you can buy the unlocks from other players for CREDITS.    YOU DO NOT HAVE TO SPEND A PENNY ON UNLOCKS IF YOU DO NOT WANT TO THEY CAN ALL BE ATTAINED WITH IN GAME CREDITS FROM OTHER PLAYERS.

Originally posted by asmkm22

Originally posted by Po_gg

Originally posted by kharlan

you get to keep already created chars and can play them all

Until they find the solution to revoke them (they said it earlier)

Edit: Frodo was faster, /hats off

 

And how exactly is that different from any other F2P transition?  LotRO does the same thing, for example...

Who said anything about difference? I only corrected a false info. If you check what I said earlier, as soon as they announced there will be a char.slot unlock option in Market I said then this restriction is ok now. It doesn't effect that other parts of this so-called f2p model stink :)

And wrong, no other f2p transition did that before with a delay. A decent company did it right at the conversion, not "we will, soon, but first we have to find out how to do it"...  but it's EA :)

Am i suppose to play along here for the cicle jerk against swtor, or should I point out there is free cartel coins earned from previous subscriptions and actually works out that the person gets the U.I. for free and other perks for free from earned CC for free.

And the benefit is playing the same game for free. The only real restriction that needs a contant pass for even casual play is OPs. For Ops a person needs to get a pass, or they can play casually and have access to all the content and use what ever free cartel coins to get all the other accounts to have a 'full' preferred status.

I think the QA of swtor should high light... what is the full status of a unlocked f2p account that is account wide as a 'preferred status' account.

Also... incase people missed it... due to the MMORPG.com orgasmic heat stink of tidal splooge that drowns its victims out in waves and can only swim with the current... well heres a life saver... and think for a moment. Paying subs got free cartel coins. This thread is clearly trolling.

You have fed the troll. In fact, I belive the problem with swtor is not that its a bad game, its certainly just as good as WoW but with a few less features but lvling is better, and combat has its own merits in comparison to WoW... but... people just like to hate on swtor so much that its loses any hype. And maybe that hate is justified from certain perspectives... but I believe its just counter productive. People should express what they want rather than hating on something in hopes that it crashes and burns... especially when the game is as large as swtor... its going to stick around for a while. So hating on something that actually contributes to its slow death is worse than allowing a game to grow and produce content to make it fun. 

Basically by trolling this game, people are saying there is nothing swtor can do to redeem itself and its fair-game to troll the game even with false accusations. I dont like being misled or bamboozled with deceptions, even if its meant for entertainment. I just dont like to be the butt of the joke.

Tyvm.

You can go back to what ever it was your doing, and have a good day.

Originally posted by Incomparable

Am i suppose to play along here for the cicle jerk against swtor, or should I point out there is free cartel coins earned from previous subscriptions and actually works out that the person gets the U.I. for free and other perks for free from earned CC for free.

You aren't allowed into the circle since you don't even realize that you have to resubscribe to redeem the "free" cartel coins, so you main point is moot.

Originally posted by tiefighter25

Originally posted by Incomparable

Am i suppose to play along here for the cicle jerk against swtor, or should I point out there is free cartel coins earned from previous subscriptions and actually works out that the person gets the U.I. for free and other perks for free from earned CC for free.

You aren't allowed into the circle since you don't even realize that you have to resubscribe to redeem the "free" cartel coins, so you main point is moot.

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This

The simple fact is.. If you like the game keep paying the 15 a month. 

This F2P stuff is just here to hook new blood. Nothing more. 

Originally posted by Tayah
They're milking people for all they can before they close it down for good.

If shit like STO and DCUO can keep chugging along.. So can this, I mean it is a better game than both of those put together. If I had to compare it to anything right now.. I'd say its "close" to the same boat as LOTRO F2P. 

Originally posted by Jyiiga

The simple fact is.. If you like the game keep paying the 15 a month. 

 

This F2P stuff is just here to hook new blood. Nothing more. 

The simple fact is, more than 1.5million already stopped paying the 15$, and the game is the same, there was no correction or fix or anything.

This F2P stuff is just here to put a cash shop in game, and definitely not to hook new blood. But it was obvious right when they detailed the model.

Originally posted by Jyiiga

Originally posted by Tayah
They're milking people for all they can before they close it down for good.

If shit like STO and DCUO can keep chugging along.. So can this, I mean it is a better game than both of those put together. If I had to compare it to anything right now.. I'd say its "close" to the same boat as LOTRO F2P. 

The exact opposite, "shit like STO and DCUO" were quite empty, and made a model to hook new blood, as you said. And they did it successfully, both games are live, with regular updates (both got 2 or 3 I think since switched to f2p). EA could've copy their model, if the plan is a playerbase increase. Of course, the plan was not that.

LotRO's boat was totally different, it was a solid game, but after the DDO conversion Turbine (more precisely WB) wanted more money. And the model is also different, because LotRO's model is based on subscription increase, just as STO or DCUO. Their conversion was a succesful one as well, opened 2 more servers, made 2 expansions, and after 2 years the playerbase is still there.

I like the game, I have fun and I am a huge star wars fan, as such Im a subscriber and ill continue to be.

People who like the game and want to be able to access every part of it should subscribe like me. F2P is for people who want to play the stories and pretty much thats it. Even if you have to pay 10 euros/ dollars, to unlock 2 extra bars thats cheap for such a rich game story wise.

Originally posted by asmkm22

Originally posted by Po_gg

Originally posted by kharlan

you get to keep already created chars and can play them all

Until they find the solution to revoke them (they said it earlier)

Edit: Frodo was faster, /hats off

 

And how exactly is that different from any other F2P transition?  LotRO does the same thing, for example...

 Same with Age of Conan. It was even more restrictive then, because you could only use 4 (out of 12, basically they let you choose between a tank, melee DPS, ranged DPS or healer) classes, and 2 chars total (of course, since it's F2P you could make more than 1 account to play more chars). If you had played at release (back then you had 8 char slots) then you could choose 2 of your previous characters to unlock, even if it was one of the restricted classes, the rest were still locked but would be available to play if you subscribed.

Originally posted by L0C0Man

Originally posted by asmkm22

Originally posted by Po_gg

Originally posted by kharlan

you get to keep already created chars and can play them all

Until they find the solution to revoke them (they said it earlier)

Edit: Frodo was faster, /hats off

 

And how exactly is that different from any other F2P transition?  LotRO does the same thing, for example...

 Same with Age of Conan. It was even more restrictive then, because you could only use 4 (out of 12, basically they let you choose between a tank, melee DPS, ranged DPS or healer) classes, and 2 chars total (of course, since it's F2P you could make more than 1 account to play more chars). If you had played at release (back then you had 8 char slots) then you could choose 2 of your previous characters to unlock, even if it was one of the restricted classes, the rest were still locked but would be available to play if you subscribed.

Agreed. This whole model is similar to AoC's (not only character slot-wise). That's why I keep saying it's only about the cash shop... And as you barely can find free players in AoC, you won't find any here after a few months probably. Damn, how long we tried to tell Funcom on the forum that this model is wrong... until we realised it's only about the cash shop and not about new players.

Edit: not to mention how lame was the class pick, f2p's could choose from the best tank, one of the best stygian (demo), a good dps machine (barb), and the weakest healer :) but that's offtopic