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  GeezerGamer

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11/16/12 10:18:28 AM#81
Originally posted by Whitebeards
Originally posted by GeezerGamer
Originally posted by Whitebeards
Originally posted by botrytis
Originally posted by xpiher
Thats right I said it. By going back on their manifesto and completely changing the game by adding in gear treadmill they alinated their loyal player base in the hopes of wracking the dough from WoW refugees. 

Get over yourself. They announced this stuff in the manifesto. They just didn't have it ready.

 

Have you made enough threads on this topic? Mods - please close this one as it is just another troll thread.

Care to show us? because i have seen manifesto several times. Maybe i missed the part where they talked about introducing armor with higher stats?

I can't wait to see what else in the manifesto becomes open to interpretation and/or subject to change.

There is no such thing in manifesto, i am quite sure about that. But yeah i would like him to show us where Anet talked about these changes.

In my opinion Anet defense force is just getting desperate now.

Yeah, why is it when it looks like the developers are starting to cave on things they founded their game on, the fans just roll over and accept it making excusesfor ANET. Every time someone "White Knights" their decsions, they are helping pave the way for it to happen again and again.

It's the sad state of the genre. The next big title has as many threads discussing issues with it's business model than issues with the game itself.

  Whitebeards

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11/16/12 10:31:27 AM#82
Originally posted by botrytis
Originally posted by Whitebeards
Originally posted by GeezerGamer
Originally posted by Whitebeards
Originally posted by botrytis
Originally posted by xpiher
Thats right I said it. By going back on their manifesto and completely changing the game by adding in gear treadmill they alinated their loyal player base in the hopes of wracking the dough from WoW refugees. 

Get over yourself. They announced this stuff in the manifesto. They just didn't have it ready.

 

Have you made enough threads on this topic? Mods - please close this one as it is just another troll thread.

Care to show us? because i have seen manifesto several times. Maybe i missed the part where they talked about introducing armor with higher stats?

I can't wait to see what else in the manifesto becomes open to interpretation and/or subject to change.

There is no such thing in manifesto, i am quite sure about that. But yeah i would like him to show us where Anet talked about these changes.

In my opinion Anet defense force is just getting desperate now.

Colin Johanson wrote:

The rarest items in the game are not more powerful than other items, so you don’t need them to be the best. The rarest items have unique looks to help your character feel that sense of accomplishment, but it’s not required to play the game. We don’t need to make mandatory gear treadmills, we make all of it optional, so those who find it fun to chase this prestigious gear can do so, but those who don’t are just as powerful and get to have fun too.
 

This is what they wrote a while ago. SO stop with the 'A.Net is not following their manidfesto' - they are. YOU NEED TO READ ALL OF IT.

 

I did read all of it but i think you have misplaced your reading glasses somewhere.

It is another thing to say they went back on their word and taking new approach and it is completely another thing to try and twist what they originaly said to suit your argument.

  Tonin109

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11/16/12 10:33:55 AM#83
Originally posted by xpiher
Originally posted by Rohn
Originally posted by xpiher
Thats right I said it. By going back on their manifesto and completely changing the game by adding in gear treadmill they alinated their loyal player base in the hopes of wracking the dough from WoW refugees. 

 

The lack of itemization was one of the many reasons AoC was considered a failure - it's a bad game design decision for an RPG, including an MMORPG, unless another method of ongoing character development was substituted.  Nothing was, and thus AoC failed.

ANET didn't learn from the AoC debacle, and did the same thing with GW2.  Just like Funcom, the idiots at ANET are quickly learning that bucking convention just for the sake of bucking convention has a price if you aren't replacing that convention with something else that's actually better.  They are now scrambling to "normalize" their game, because the concept failed, again.

AoC failed becaus it was a bugg ridden mess that was nothing like it was advertised. GW2 was actually SUCCEEDING as intended. A stable population was reached after 2 months (when all the grinder burned through content) and events and content patches brought people back to check them out and spend money. 

 

BY I was just banned on the forums for saying my feedback = uninstall. 

good to hear dont come back

 

  User Deleted
11/16/12 10:34:58 AM#84
Same 20 on official and 10 here, very concerned people have a lot to say. If you would utilize the time vs amount of posts you make you would have a PhD in no time O_O
  Whitebeards

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Joined: 12/02/11
Posts: 823

11/16/12 10:36:47 AM#85
Originally posted by sammyeli
Same 20 on official and 10 here, very concerned people have a lot to say. If you would utilize the time vs amount of posts you make you would have a PhD in no time O_O

*rolls eyes*

  BizkitNL

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11/16/12 10:39:24 AM#86
Did the other topic run out of space or something? What's with the cry for attention?

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  Volkon

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11/16/12 10:40:36 AM#87
Originally posted by botrytis
Originally posted by Whitebeards
Originally posted by GeezerGamer
Originally posted by Whitebeards
Originally posted by botrytis
Originally posted by xpiher
Thats right I said it. By going back on their manifesto and completely changing the game by adding in gear treadmill they alinated their loyal player base in the hopes of wracking the dough from WoW refugees. 

Get over yourself. They announced this stuff in the manifesto. They just didn't have it ready.

 

Have you made enough threads on this topic? Mods - please close this one as it is just another troll thread.

Care to show us? because i have seen manifesto several times. Maybe i missed the part where they talked about introducing armor with higher stats?

I can't wait to see what else in the manifesto becomes open to interpretation and/or subject to change.

There is no such thing in manifesto, i am quite sure about that. But yeah i would like him to show us where Anet talked about these changes.

In my opinion Anet defense force is just getting desperate now.

Colin Johanson wrote:

The rarest items in the game are not more powerful than other items, so you don’t need them to be the best. The rarest items have unique looks to help your character feel that sense of accomplishment, but it’s not required to play the game. We don’t need to make mandatory gear treadmills, we make all of it optional, so those who find it fun to chase this prestigious gear can do so, but those who don’t are just as powerful and get to have fun too.
 

This is what they wrote a while ago. SO stop with the 'A.Net is not following their manidfesto' - they are. YOU NEED TO READ ALL OF IT.

 

They are following the manifesto. Go watch the manifesto and quote the exact part they're not following.  The closest I can see is Colin saying they don't want the game to be "a boring grind to get to the fun stuff", and it's certainly not that. 

 

(Helpful hint: The Manifesto doesn't mention gear.)

Oderint, dum metuant.

  User Deleted
11/16/12 10:41:02 AM#88
Originally posted by Whitebeards
Originally posted by sammyeli
Same 20 on official and 10 here, very concerned people have a lot to say. If you would utilize the time vs amount of posts you make you would have a PhD in no time O_O

*rolls eyes*

My bad I know PhD wouldn't happen but at least a BA

  Gaia_Hunter

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Posts: 2676

11/16/12 10:41:10 AM#89
Originally posted by sammyeli
Same 20 on official and 10 here, very concerned people have a lot to say. If you would utilize the time vs amount of posts you make you would have a PhD in no time O_O

Where you bored with GW2, feeling there was nothing to do because there was no higher gear stats tier than exotic?

I wasn't.

 

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  xpiher

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Joined: 8/22/08
Posts: 3305

 
OP  11/16/12 10:47:22 AM#90

If Ascended upgrades didn't have stats, Exotics would still be the best armor to have because of the way sigil stacking works. However, since Ascended has stat increases as well that might not be the case. Lets assume stats go up by 5 for each tier of ascended bonus. So that makes exotic level asended buff +15 to any particular stat. 20 x 6 = 120 additional points to any particular stat, couple with the fact that it already has an inate 5 (if the ring pics are to be believed and extrapolated) that means asecned armor set gives + 150 points to any 1 particular stat, and thats assuming ascended buffs are limited to 1 stat increase. 


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  xpiher

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Posts: 3305

 
OP  11/16/12 10:47:55 AM#91
Originally posted by sammyeli
Originally posted by Gaia_Hunter
Originally posted by sammyeli
Same 20 on official and 10 here, very concerned people have a lot to say. If you would utilize the time vs amount of posts you make you would have a PhD in no time O_O

Where you bored with GW2, feeling there was nothing to do because there was no higher gear stats tier than exotic?

I wasn't.

 

lol I don't really care what you think or anyone else here, I am here for the laughs and enjoyment at work, keep going at each other's necks.

 

I am just saying its the same 10 people complaining, I mean I could be wrong it might be 11 but hey we are human, and we all make mistakes. =)

Its more than that. Go look at the merged ascended thread. 8k+ replies, mostly against the patch. There would be 100s of threads if the mods weren't quit to lock posts and ban people. 


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Warhammer - Xpiher

  User Deleted
11/16/12 10:51:02 AM#92
Originally posted by xpiher
Originally posted by sammyeli
Originally posted by Gaia_Hunter
Originally posted by sammyeli
Same 20 on official and 10 here, very concerned people have a lot to say. If you would utilize the time vs amount of posts you make you would have a PhD in no time O_O

Where you bored with GW2, feeling there was nothing to do because there was no higher gear stats tier than exotic?

I wasn't.

 

lol I don't really care what you think or anyone else here, I am here for the laughs and enjoyment at work, keep going at each other's necks.

 

I am just saying its the same 10 people complaining, I mean I could be wrong it might be 11 but hey we are human, and we all make mistakes. =)

Its more than that. Go look at the merged ascended thread. 8k+ replies, mostly against the patch. There would be 100s of threads if the mods weren't quit to lock posts and ban people. 

I went through the 184 pages, I am pretty sure you haven't hence this sad story of a responce you gave, and like I said previously its roughly 20 give or take a few people that are mad about it, and trust me lol thats all I do at work is read, maybe some of you should take some advice and read.

 

But none the less keep at it. =)

  xpiher

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OP  11/16/12 10:57:12 AM#93
Its possible that ascended has the same stats as a full set of exotics upgraded with sigils. I just did the math (see above post). But thats not likely going to be the case


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  Whitebeards

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11/16/12 10:57:29 AM#94
Originally posted by sammyeli
Originally posted by xpiher
Originally posted by sammyeli
Originally posted by Gaia_Hunter
Originally posted by sammyeli
Same 20 on official and 10 here, very concerned people have a lot to say. If you would utilize the time vs amount of posts you make you would have a PhD in no time O_O

Where you bored with GW2, feeling there was nothing to do because there was no higher gear stats tier than exotic?

I wasn't.

 

lol I don't really care what you think or anyone else here, I am here for the laughs and enjoyment at work, keep going at each other's necks.

 

I am just saying its the same 10 people complaining, I mean I could be wrong it might be 11 but hey we are human, and we all make mistakes. =)

Its more than that. Go look at the merged ascended thread. 8k+ replies, mostly against the patch. There would be 100s of threads if the mods weren't quit to lock posts and ban people. 

I went through the 184 pages, I am pretty sure you haven't hence this sad story of a responce you gave, and like I said previously its roughly 20 give or take a few people that are mad about it, and trust me lol thats all I do at work is read, maybe some of you should take some advice and read.

 

But none the less keep at it. =)

No thank you. No way there are just 20 people that are mad about it. But keep pulling those numbers from.. you know where.

  Gaia_Hunter

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11/16/12 10:58:26 AM#95
Originally posted by sammyeli
Originally posted by Gaia_Hunter
Originally posted by sammyeli
Same 20 on official and 10 here, very concerned people have a lot to say. If you would utilize the time vs amount of posts you make you would have a PhD in no time O_O

Where you bored with GW2, feeling there was nothing to do because there was no higher gear stats tier than exotic?

I wasn't.

 

lol I don't really care what you think or anyone else here, I am here for the laughs and enjoyment at work, keep going at each other's necks.

 

I am just saying its the same 10 people complaining, I mean I could be wrong it might be 11 but hey we are human, and we all make mistakes. =)

And you think I'm here because I'm about to have a heart attack because I game i really enjoy playing is doing some changes I don't agree too and make the game much less enjoyable?

Anyway, were you bored and in need of item progression?

Currently playing: GW2
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  botrytis

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11/16/12 11:03:56 AM#96

This thread is just going down the tubes from the begiining - Mods may as well losck this one.

 

This is just like the last US election - people are still incensed about the turn out and protesting rather than just accepting and moving on. You could have spent all this time and energy in game getting armor.

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  User Deleted
11/16/12 11:05:17 AM#97
Originally posted by Gaia_Hunter
Originally posted by sammyeli
Originally posted by Gaia_Hunter
Originally posted by sammyeli
Same 20 on official and 10 here, very concerned people have a lot to say. If you would utilize the time vs amount of posts you make you would have a PhD in no time O_O

Where you bored with GW2, feeling there was nothing to do because there was no higher gear stats tier than exotic?

I wasn't.

 

lol I don't really care what you think or anyone else here, I am here for the laughs and enjoyment at work, keep going at each other's necks.

 

I am just saying its the same 10 people complaining, I mean I could be wrong it might be 11 but hey we are human, and we all make mistakes. =)

And you think I'm here because I'm about to have a heart attack because I game i really enjoy playing is doing some changes I don't agree too and make the game much less enjoyable?

Anyway, were you bored and in need of item progression?

I am not bored and I have put quite the time in the game, matter of fact usually 1-2 hours a day since job + baby + wife needs time, and I still have 3 80s one with 3 exotic sets the other 2 with 2 sets for playing different rolls, this new gear is going to come and I will gladly go out and get it you knwo why?   because I will be playing the game and its pretty damn easy to get gear.

  Whitebeards

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11/16/12 11:05:21 AM#98
Originally posted by sammyeli
see the same people, I do not see anyone new jumping all around, =)  keep at it mate its entertaining.

One thing is clear..you have nothing constructive to say on the topic. So you are pulling imaginary numbers and just looking to bait people into arguing with you. So i will just pass and leave you to trolling.

Anyone who has been active on official forums and have participated in that topic with thousands of replies can easily tell that you are spewing BS. Just for fun i started the count and i stopped at 60 people who are against the new changes.

Sorry bro not interested in derailign this topic further and get a temporary ban because i couldn't resist feeding a troll. Bye bye now.

  Zaltark

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11/16/12 11:06:47 AM#99

Im fine with it.

  Whitebeards

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11/16/12 11:07:10 AM#100
Originally posted by botrytis

This thread is just going down the tubes from the begiining - Mods may as well losck this one.

 

This is just like the last US election - people are still incensed about the turn out and protesting rather than just accepting and moving on. You could have spent all this time and energy in game getting armor.

It goes down the tubes the moment Anet fanatics start  derailing  topics with their usual tactics. Nothing new. ofcourse it is going to get locked. Job well done i would say.

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