It is only 250 cartel coins to unlock a skill bar, not even the price of a beer

Come on, stop whining about F2P and enjoy that you get to play something if you decide to pay nothing

When in battle I used three out of the four bars for combat. Without at least three bars I can't even play. That's why I wont be playing.

Originally posted by kevnon
just tried out swtor, and im so far pretty happy.  only lvl 12 but i like it.  might actually subscribe to it, well see how everything goes.

And if the servers were actually up we might even believe you .. oops

I would try it out if I didn't think they were going to charge me to un-install.

Originally posted by Phry

Originally posted by kevnon
just tried out swtor, and im so far pretty happy.  only lvl 12 but i like it.  might actually subscribe to it, well see how everything goes.

And if the servers were actually up we might even believe you .. oops

parallel universe?

At best their payment model is a freemium trial account so stop getting your panties in a bunch expecting full access. It is painfully obvious that they want their players to pay the sub if they wish to play the game more.

In some ways I respect what they are doing (I won't play the game mind you). Most freemium games try to allow full access to the game (even if you have to jump through multiple hoops to do so). SWTOR basically is saying that if you want to play for free, you aren't going to be annoying the paying customers much who choose to pay for full access and expect as much. It is teh more  honest approach, even if you hate it.

SWTOR f2p = extended trial.

Originally posted by MeGaTronPower

Bioware the first f2p company to charge you for your skill bars in your ui, i think they might as well charge you everytiem you try to login and customize your new character too while they are at it.

 

OOOO yea how about those slide bars that you customize your character with , heyyyy they might want to charge for those slide bars too.

Yeah this is ridiculous - this was a BIG factor in my decision to not return to SW:TOR when it went semi-f2p.  I had thought about logging in and playing my old toons, but why would I? They so severely limited their free option, I mean fewer skill bars than p2p?! Really? How lame can you get? 

Originally posted by Tamanous

At best their payment model is a freemium trial account so stop getting your panties in a bunch expecting full access. It is painfully obvious that they want their players to pay the sub if they wish to play the game more.

 

In some ways I respect what they are doing (I won't play the game mind you). Most freemium games try to allow full access to the game (even if you have to jump through multiple hoops to do so). SWTOR basically is saying that if you want to play for free, you aren't going to be annoying the paying customers much who choose to pay for full access and expect as much. Is some respects it is a very honest approach.

 

SWTOR f2p = extended trial.

Except Bioware has stated the purpose of the FTP option is the exact opposite.

Originally posted by tiefighter25

Originally posted by Tamanous

At best their payment model is a freemium trial account so stop getting your panties in a bunch expecting full access. It is painfully obvious that they want their players to pay the sub if they wish to play the game more.

 

In some ways I respect what they are doing (I won't play the game mind you). Most freemium games try to allow full access to the game (even if you have to jump through multiple hoops to do so). SWTOR basically is saying that if you want to play for free, you aren't going to be annoying the paying customers much who choose to pay for full access and expect as much. Is some respects it is a very honest approach.

 

SWTOR f2p = extended trial.

Except Bioware has stated the purpose of the FTP option is the exact opposite.

Well then it is marketing spin. If they choose to lie about it that is another matter lol.

If someone serves you shit that looks like shit and smells like shit yet calls it cake ... do you still eat it?

I see a lot of people eating shit around here.

Charging for UI features? I think I may have to finally uninstall Tor. And I was hoping that it could be something to tool about on warzones and whatnot....*sigh* have some nifty music and a Malgus statue I guess....

This thread just seems set up to bash instead of actually hold some sort of discussion. This topic has been explored in existing threads about F2P. 

These threads, for example:

http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/369140/What-F2P-restriction-do-you-hate-the-most.html

http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/367422/Freemium-restrictions-detailed-updated-Oct-16.html