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  TheIronLegion

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11/15/12 5:50:58 AM#21
Originally posted by taus01
Originally posted by TheIronLegion

Sounds more like youre grasping at straws to me. Anet is sticking to their game plan and keeping the game as grind free as possible. But at the same time they want to deliver new content and new things to work towards for the players who like shiny things. Trying to find a happy balance between the two is hard - hell, I'd like to see you try it in practice.

But what's most astounding is that people are doing all this whining, bitching and moaning and are totally forgetting one fact. We're barely 3 months into the game's release and they're already bringing us new content.

On top of that their time table was very tight. They had August to release, september to prepare for the Holloween event, and then octover/early november to prepare for this. The fact that they are so organized internally that they can pull all of this off in a timely manner is quite impressive. Three months into release most other games were still fixing class balance issues and terrain glitches.

Which is what they should be doing since there are still hundreds of class bugs, balance issues and terrain glitches!

Not to mention them spending time on developing a "diminishing rewards system" to make up for their bad dungeon design that was so full of holes (literally) that every single dungeon had a shortcut. Yes, every single one had at least one exploit or still has them.

Screw the new content, fix the game.

And what you're missing is that they are fixing them. Did you know that when the Lost Shores opens there will be a patch to add massive class changes; Some 20+ changes to the engineer alone. Most terrain glitches have been plugged up. Most DE's have been fixed though there's no denying the still existing broken ones. Most of the dungeons have been updated and shortcuts done away with. So your point is moot. They have multiple different teams working on different things. They are more than capable of fixing the game and bringing us new content at the same time. They can pat their head and rub their tummy too.

  Underbridge

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11/15/12 5:53:47 AM#22
Originally posted by TheIronLegion

Sounds more like youre grasping at straws to me. Anet is sticking to their game plan and keeping the game as grind free as possible. But at the same time they want to deliver new content and new things to work towards for the players who like shiny things. Trying to find a happy balance between the two is hard - hell, I'd like to see you try it in practice.

But what's most astounding is that people are doing all this whining, bitching and moaning and are totally forgetting one fact. We're barely 3 months into the game's release and they're already bringing us new content.

On top of that their time table was very tight. They had August to release, september to prepare for the Holloween event, and then octover/early november to prepare for this. The fact that they are so organized internally that they can pull all of this off in a timely manner is quite impressive. Three months into release most other games were still fixing class balance issues and terrain glitches.

Please just stop. This content, the Halloween event and the November patch, were most likely already nearly completed when the game launched. They are still fixing class balance issues and bugs three months in just like every other MMO.

  karmath

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Joined: 8/24/05
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11/15/12 6:02:05 AM#23
Originally posted by Aeolron
Originally posted by karmath

This has happened before, and will happen again, again and again.

You people seem hell bent on buying every single last fucking cancerous hype clone and expect it to be different than the last.

Want a good game? Stop buying rubbish, you only have yourselves to blame.

Yeah I like buy any and all mmorpgs , I don't get hyped to much at all, the only one I am hyped for like crazy right now is PS2 , cant stop playing the god damn thing LOL

I'm playing PS2 now also. It's one of the only games on the horizon that I'm considering taking seriously.

  Underbridge

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Troll kalla mik!!!

11/15/12 6:10:45 AM#24
Originally posted by TheIronLegion
Originally posted by Underbridge
Originally posted by TheIronLegion

Sounds more like youre grasping at straws to me. Anet is sticking to their game plan and keeping the game as grind free as possible. But at the same time they want to deliver new content and new things to work towards for the players who like shiny things. Trying to find a happy balance between the two is hard - hell, I'd like to see you try it in practice.

But what's most astounding is that people are doing all this whining, bitching and moaning and are totally forgetting one fact. We're barely 3 months into the game's release and they're already bringing us new content.

On top of that their time table was very tight. They had August to release, september to prepare for the Holloween event, and then octover/early november to prepare for this. The fact that they are so organized internally that they can pull all of this off in a timely manner is quite impressive. Three months into release most other games were still fixing class balance issues and terrain glitches.

Please just stop. This content, the Halloween event and the November patch, were most likely already nearly completed when the game launched. They are still fixing class balance issues and bugs three months in just like every other MMO.

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Actually it isn't an alt account...thank you very much. I don't hate GW2. I actually like it for the most part. It didn't hold my interest as long as I thought it would, but it is a good game for what it is. I do agree with the OP that it wasn't exactly what they sold us on and they seem to be changing to cater to the unwashed masses. I understand why they are doing it, they are a corporation after all and they do need to make money. They just spent too much time in the beginning flaunting their "vision" and now they seem to be wavering on it. I only posted on what you wrote because it makes me ill when people spend so much time defending a corporation and giving them credit where credit really isn't due.....

  TheIronLegion

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11/15/12 6:13:18 AM#25
Originally posted by Underbridge
Originally posted by TheIronLegion
Originally posted by Underbridge
Originally posted by TheIronLegion

Sounds more like youre grasping at straws to me. Anet is sticking to their game plan and keeping the game as grind free as possible. But at the same time they want to deliver new content and new things to work towards for the players who like shiny things. Trying to find a happy balance between the two is hard - hell, I'd like to see you try it in practice.

But what's most astounding is that people are doing all this whining, bitching and moaning and are totally forgetting one fact. We're barely 3 months into the game's release and they're already bringing us new content.

On top of that their time table was very tight. They had August to release, september to prepare for the Holloween event, and then octover/early november to prepare for this. The fact that they are so organized internally that they can pull all of this off in a timely manner is quite impressive. Three months into release most other games were still fixing class balance issues and terrain glitches.

Please just stop. This content, the Halloween event and the November patch, were most likely already nearly completed when the game launched. They are still fixing class balance issues and bugs three months in just like every other MMO.

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Actually it isn't an alt account...thank you very much. I don't hate GW2. I actually like it for the most part. It didn't hold my interest as long as I thought it would, but it is a good game for what it is. I do agree with the OP that it wasn't exactly what they sold us on and they seem to be changing to cater to the unwashed masses. I understand why they are doing it, they are a corporation after all and they do need to make money. They just spent too much time in the beginning flaunting their "vision" and now they seem to be wavering on it. I only posted on what you wrote because it makes me ill when people spend so much time defending a corporation and giving them credit where credit really isn't due.....

Is WoW what they sold you on day 1? Is SWTOR what they sold you? (dont ansswer that) What about LOTRO? or Aion? Games change, mate. They change based on the player base. If the players ask for something its up to the devs to either ignore them and keep doing their own thing or listen to them and give them what they want. Despit teh beliefs of some misguided individuals...this game actually does need players to stay alive.

  MsGamerlady

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11/15/12 6:17:04 AM#26

I'm thinking they're deleting post that aren't constructive. They're similar to these forums where you have many post by frustrated consumers who don't know how to breach an issue with out being overly dramatic. Tactful well thought out post go a long way in relations to a company. If one can't do that any clamoring will be by and large non-productive.

  TheIronLegion

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11/15/12 6:18:22 AM#27
Originally posted by MsGamerlady

I'm thinking they're deleting post that aren't constructive. They're similar to these forums where you have many post by frustrated consumers who don't know how to breach an issue with out being overly dramatic. Tactful well thought out post go a long way in relations to a company. If one can't do that any clamoring will be by and large non-productive.

*bows* perfect. Best response award.

  RizelStar

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11/15/12 6:31:16 AM#28
Originally posted by MsGamerlady

I'm thinking they're deleting post that aren't constructive. They're similar to these forums where you have many post by frustrated consumers who don't know how to breach an issue with out being overly dramatic. Tactful well thought out post go a long way in relations to a company. If one can't do that any clamoring will be by and large non-productive.

This is what I believe happens with any game forum, but eh well.

I might get banned for this. - Rizel Star.

I'm not afraid to tell trolls what they [need] to hear, even if that means for me to have an forced absence afterwards.

P2P LOGIC = If it's P2P it means longevity, overall better game, and THE BEST SUPPORT EVER!!!!!(Which has been rinsed and repeated about a thousand times)

Common Sense Logic = P2P logic is no better than F2P Logic.

  taus01

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Joined: 4/12/06
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OP  11/15/12 6:38:27 AM#29
Originally posted by MsGamerlady

I'm thinking they're deleting post that aren't constructive. They're similar to these forums where you have many post by frustrated consumers who don't know how to breach an issue with out being overly dramatic. Tactful well thought out post go a long way in relations to a company. If one can't do that any clamoring will be by and large non-productive.

They have started now to delete ANY post and ban players mentioning the word ANet or quoting any ANet employee. That is hardly the way to deal with your customers.

I don't think that the OP was in any way unconstructive, non-productive or offensive.

 

"Give players systems and tools instead of rails and rules"

  User Deleted
11/15/12 6:46:23 AM#30

I think its called  legendary   "Daikatana" effect

Atleast Romero was a man and apologized 10 years later.

  hikaru77

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Joined: 3/28/07
Posts: 950

11/15/12 7:58:29 AM#31
I logged yesterday on GW2 after like a month, the population drop was huge, i mean i was in the myst with just 2 more players,   and olny 5 16/16 PvP maps running, but the best thing of this is that the server was full. Maybe Anet dont want you to know the real state of the game. 
  QSatu

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Joined: 10/14/06
Posts: 1765

11/15/12 8:54:36 AM#32

A lot of people notices smaller number of bots so yea they actually do something about it. they intorduced mobile authenticators last time I checked.

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  User Deleted
11/15/12 9:22:36 AM#33
Man...I don't understand how people could dedicate so much time to nitpicking. Who cares? Just get over it.
  zimboy69

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Posts: 348

11/15/12 9:58:53 AM#34

im at a loss at even what your complaining about

 

the game is good, if not better than  any other mmo  thats out

its buy to play

yeh its got problems none of them are major and  they are being fixed (just like every other mmo)

if your not happy  leave the game come back in 6 months  and most of what your asking will be fixed  and  it wont even cost you a subscription to  try it

its not even like its a buggy mess  which you cant play  it's fluid and really good fun to play

there is loads of content ,even at lvl 80 you can still do low level areas unlike all other mmo's

 

i really fail to see what the moaning is  all about  i   currently have  600 hours game time  my highest character is lvl 65 if it closed tomorrow i would feel i've had  my monies worth 5  times over 

sometimes i think people moan cause they really havent got anything else in there life

  MosesZD

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11/15/12 2:40:47 PM#35

The people who have gotten in trouble or had their threads locked have only themselves to blame.    There are some simple rules over there, which I'll paraphrase:

 

1.  No personal attacks against the devs or customers.   You may think the Internet, or a game purchase, gives you license to be a douche, but they don't agree and they don't have to put up with your maladapted world-view and lack of social skills.  

 

2.  Don't spam the forums with threads that are already existent.   You're not a special snowflake to clog the message board with your personal bug-peeves.   Use the search function which they even mention you should use before thread creation in the TOS!!!   (You did READ the TOS, didn't you?  Of course you didn't.  Almost nobody does.  So why do I ask,?   Though, if you had read it, you wouldn't have these problems...)

 

3.  Stay on topic.  If you start thread hijacking, you're gonna get it.

 

Amazingly, you can particpate in those forums and not run afoul of any issue or find your threads closed and deleted if you follow those three simple rules...   Which are in the TOS you agreed to...

  MosesZD

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11/15/12 2:57:38 PM#36

Here's a post on the official server that's soon to be deleted....    The kind of 'innocent post' people come here to complain about:

 

Okamakiri.8746

 

The idiocy and fanboism in this thread is astounding. Not releasing planned changes WEEKS in advance is a terrible practice in any game. In 10+ years of MMOs, I have seen countless of examples of terrible design decisions being reversed or changed prior to patch going live because people were given ample time to discuss them, do the math, and bring to light issues with them BEFORE the devs just push them live and potentially cause permanent damage to the game. Using “get rich quick” schemes as an excuse to avoid this common industry practice is just pure stupidity.

Btw, it’s also a terrible practice to NOT have a scheduled down time for patches and hotfixes and to feel it’s perfectly fine to kitten on your customers with a 3 minute notice before you boot them from the game while they’re in the middle of an event or a dungeon run. Anyone defending such practice is either ignorant or blinded with their infatuation for the game.

This post will probably be deleted for making too much sense and being too blunt for this sensitive community.

 

https://forum-en.guildwars2.com/forum/game/gw2/Where-are-the-patchnotes-for-the-nov-15th-patch/first#post730043

 

 

At least he's self-aware he's gone too far.   But not self-aware enough to understand he's a complete jerk.    I'm sure, in a day or two, he'll start a thread about how 'mean' ANet is on some forum somewhere...   And a bunch of people will, as always, fall for it...

  Cod_Eye

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11/15/12 3:01:07 PM#37
Originally posted by Whitebeards

Well OP must be lying because as far as i know ANET never misleads or lies or wrongly advertise their games and always..always deliver what they promise. They put every feature in GW2 that they promised before release including this one.... Perpetual Bar Brawl.

https://forum-en.guildwars2.com/forum/game/gw2/Perpetual-bar-brawl-what-happened-to-it/first

 

Nope the bar brawl was not implimented along with a lot of other mini games that were supposed to have been implimented, they were all put on the back burner to work on other content.

Either you didnt read every statement that the devs made before release or you are being sarcastic, either way, Anet have lied about a lot of stuff they claimed in live interviews and pre-beta events.

I was hyped about a lot of things in GW2 which Anet devs said would be ingame and they never happened.

I don't know who I have least respect for anymore Anet or the fanbois.

  Whitebeards

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11/15/12 3:01:09 PM#38

Jesus.... i even posted the link to the said feature. I guess OP didn't click on it? I wasn't making stuff up. Seriously, this was promised before release but never made into the game.

https://forum-en.guildwars2.com/forum/game/gw2/Perpetual-bar-brawl-what-happened-to-it/first

Bar Brawls.

  botrytis

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11/15/12 3:01:57 PM#39

I am kind of sick of all the whiners out there. We lead by majority rule, not vocal minority. All this gnashing of teeth and stamping of feet just has to stop.

1. They fixed the security - bots, etc are almost non-exsistant

2. They are trying to give the MAJORITY what was asked, I don't think that is bad.

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by Naqaj - 7/17/2013 MMORPG.com forum

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11/15/12 3:02:27 PM#40
I wonder what ANet is doing to cause such anger and distrust amonst its userbase?
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