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  negativf4kk

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11/15/12 12:57:51 PM#21
Originally posted by mmodanno

Anarchy Online had the worst launch ever... by far.

Game was unplayble due to lag and crashes.  Took them months to straighten it out.  By the time they did, everyone left.

Too bad, it was, (still is), a really fantastic MMO with lots of fresh, (for its time) ideas.

Swtor had a VERY smooth launch in comparison...  but, and this is a big but, :) , they waited too long to merge servers when they started to lose subs.  Within 2 months most servers were ghost towns, which led to more cancelations, and so on and so on...

If they had been agressive with server merges, I am confident in saying the game would probably have at least double the number of subs it has now.

Oh, btw, Mnwild, the reason I posted this was so that new people wanting to try SWTOR wouldn't give up trying.  Us vets know how bad ...really really bad.. the crew they have is at managing updates, so more of an FYI to newbies.  I think someone needs a nap.

 

Never played it. So can tell. From my experience its SWtor.


All will be judged when servers  go online. From my 5 month experience with SWtor i dont expect much.

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  remyburke

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11/15/12 12:59:15 PM#22
Hey come on now, they only gave themselves 12 hours to do something that should have taken 4 tops. Cut them some slack. It's not like MMOs can patch while you are still playing nowadays *coughGW2coughcough*.

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  Whitebeards

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11/15/12 1:05:21 PM#23
Originally posted by negativf4kk
Originally posted by SuperXero89
Originally posted by negativf4kk

Expect massive lag as usual after update.

It was worst MMO launch ever. Same probably will happen today.

 

SW:TOR was your first MMO wasn't it?

No it wasnt. Lineage was. Since then i played number of MMOs. And dont remember any with worst experience at launch. Maybe u can enlighten me the worst the SWtor?

Yeah sure Anarchy Online, AOC and GW 2 (i couldn't log in for 4 days due to broken log in). Experinceof players may vary but SWTOR was hardly the worst.

  jacklo

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11/15/12 1:06:25 PM#24

It seems at every crucial point the game ever had, their website was not functioning properly. This is no exception.

Same old, same old.

http://www.swtor.com/free

 

  azrael466

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11/15/12 1:16:19 PM#25
Originally posted by negativf4kk

Expect massive lag as usual after update.

It was worst MMO launch ever. Same probably will happen today.

 

I'm sorry, but you're either a hater, or an idiot. While no MMO launch is perfect, SWTOR was far....FAAAAAAR from the 'worst ever'. Look at WoW, only MOP had a decent release. Hell, back in classic major patches alone would knock the servers down for a week.

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  GN-003

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11/15/12 1:24:10 PM#26
Originally posted by jacklo

It seems at every crucial point the game ever had, their website was not functioning properly. This is no exception.

Same old, same old.

http://www.swtor.com/free

 

Of course it's down, they're doing maintenance.

  mmodanno

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OP  11/15/12 1:31:20 PM#27

Guys, you have to remember how few people there are actually still left working on this game.

Most MMOs don't take 12-16 hours to patch, however, most MMO's have more then 5 or 6 people working on them also.

 

  sleepr27

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11/15/12 1:33:26 PM#28
Originally posted by mmodanno

FYI to those new to Star Wars, The Old Republic.

Bioware never, and I mean NEVER, comes close to their predicted downtimes.  They are always hours, sometimes hours and hours over.

Which is completely false. Again someone spreading false information in order to make Bioware look bad. They usualy end their maintenance hours before the predicted time... of course like any other MMO sometimes there are exceptions.

  Sanisar

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11/15/12 1:35:39 PM#29
Originally posted by negativf4kk
Originally posted by mmodanno

Anarchy Online had the worst launch ever... by far.

Game was unplayble due to lag and crashes.  Took them months to straighten it out.  By the time they did, everyone left.

Too bad, it was, (still is), a really fantastic MMO with lots of fresh, (for its time) ideas.

Swtor had a VERY smooth launch in comparison...  but, and this is a big but, :) , they waited too long to merge servers when they started to lose subs.  Within 2 months most servers were ghost towns, which led to more cancelations, and so on and so on...

If they had been agressive with server merges, I am confident in saying the game would probably have at least double the number of subs it has now.

Oh, btw, Mnwild, the reason I posted this was so that new people wanting to try SWTOR wouldn't give up trying.  Us vets know how bad ...really really bad.. the crew they have is at managing updates, so more of an FYI to newbies.  I think someone needs a nap.

 

Never played it. So can tell. From my experience its SWtor.


All will be judged when servers  go online. From my 5 month experience with SWtor i dont expect much.

This guy nailed it btw.  I bought AO the first day and couldn't actually play the game till weeks later.  You probably shouldn't make absolute statements like 'ever' when you have virtually no experience (from what I can tell) with MMO launches.  Not to be overly rude but you sound like you are parroting tag-lines from post launch forums.  SWTOR wasn't even in my top 5 worst launches ever (and I haven't played nearly every game at launch).

  Whitebeards

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11/15/12 1:36:44 PM#30
Originally posted by mmodanno

Guys, you have to remember how few people there are actually still left working on this game.

Most MMOs don't take 12-16 hours to patch, however, most MMO's have more then 5 or 6 people working on them also.

 

So i guess they have been running with skeleton crew since launch because i remeber for first two month many times they took servers down for 2 hours but got extended to 8 hours and more.

  achesoma

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11/15/12 1:36:44 PM#31

To be expected with any major patch.  Just hope performance is better than it used to be. 

Anyone still playing able to tell me if game is performing better?  I used to get some major lag spikes and drops in fps in major cities and especially on space stations.  Tempted to go back and check out this so-called "F2P"  Mainly just yearning for some Star Wars. 

  negativf4kk

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11/15/12 1:37:33 PM#32
Originally posted by azrael466
Originally posted by negativf4kk

Expect massive lag as usual after update.

It was worst MMO launch ever. Same probably will happen today.

 

I'm sorry, but you're either a hater, or an idiot. While no MMO launch is perfect, SWTOR was far....FAAAAAAR from the 'worst ever'. Look at WoW, only MOP had a decent release. Hell, back in classic major patches alone would knock the servers down for a week.

No i`m not a hater. I loved Swtor what what it is. Nice single-player game. Idiot i was paying a sub for it.

Head start was terrible. Guild elocation program ton of rubish. Queque timer was broker or they borrowed it from MIB headqueters. Disconects without timeout. etc .... etc... My worst experience. If anything launching like that i will want my money back.

 

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  rojoArcueid

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11/15/12 1:39:14 PM#33
Originally posted by mnwild1998

 

 

Id say its time for the guy whos complaining about the video to update his pc. Its not a lower quality video the lengths these trolls will go to look like fools.

if you actually read my coment i said when i was subscribed the video was high quality and no image tearing. I dont need to update my PC for any existing mmo so far, all of them run smooth on ultra. I did notice the difference now that i watch the cinematic video with the F2P transition going today. It also happened with Aion, when i was playing as P2P the gameplay was higher quality, and after the F2P transition i played again and it feels a bit clunky (just a bit but i notice the difference)

Some companies do take as an offence when their mmo has to go F2P.... they kind of act like, Oh my game is going f2p, then they will not get the quality of a subscription mmo.

 

EDIT: you could read my coment and then answer instead of looking like a fool too by answering to my post in other peoples comment

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  Whitebeards

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11/15/12 1:41:13 PM#34
Originally posted by negativf4kk
Originally posted by azrael466
Originally posted by negativf4kk

Expect massive lag as usual after update.

It was worst MMO launch ever. Same probably will happen today.

 

I'm sorry, but you're either a hater, or an idiot. While no MMO launch is perfect, SWTOR was far....FAAAAAAR from the 'worst ever'. Look at WoW, only MOP had a decent release. Hell, back in classic major patches alone would knock the servers down for a week.

No i`m not a hater. I loved Swtor what what it is. Nice single-player game. Idiot i was paying a sub for it.

Head start was terrible. Guild elocation program ton of rubish. Queque timer was broker or they borrowed it from MIB headqueters. Disconects without timeout. etc .... etc... My worst experience. If anything launching like that i will want my money back.

 

No one is disagreeing with your personal experince. Like i said experince may vary. But you did try to make it sound as if your own personal experince is some universal truth. I had more problems with GW2 launch and i had to wait 4 days before i could log in and missed head start. SWTOR was smooth sailing for me.

But you won't see me try to make it look as if my personal experince is some universal fact. It is not what you say but how you say it.

  tiefighter25

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11/15/12 1:41:44 PM#35
Is this the thread where a bunch of people point out that Tor has usually gone over estimated downtimes on patch day and then a bunch of other people point out that Vanilla WoW was down for decades on patch day eight years ago and caused the stock market to crash and the sun to implode?
  Airtaee

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11/15/12 1:42:26 PM#36

Sadly performance is totally random atm.

The memory leak is a huge problem that BW can state or solve so after 2 hours of play if you have less than 16GB RAM the game is like a cancer for your system.

 

Lag is random for players, you can run smooth one day and can't even walk other with less people on screen.

 

Of course there is always a dude who doesn't have any problems and say is your fault... Sadly must be fault of the 90% of the people who have lag issues, random disconections and insane lag spikes.

  achesoma

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11/15/12 1:43:11 PM#37
Originally posted by tiefighter25
Is this the thread where a bunch of people point out that Tor has usually gone over estimated downtimes on patch day and then a bunch of other people point out that Vanilla WoW was down for decades on patch day eight years ago and caused the stock market to crash and the sun to implode?

Yes, this is the thread.

  Omnifish

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11/15/12 1:45:56 PM#38

From their twitter feed it says they have no, 'ETA', on when the servers will be up. They also haven't bothered to update the launcher with this info.

Like the OP says this is common practice with SWTOR, although usually they will have a message on the launcher.  It'd almost forgot this about this usual practice, that was a fun reminder :P

 

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  negativf4kk

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11/15/12 1:46:14 PM#39
Originally posted by Whitebeards
Originally posted by negativf4kk
Originally posted by azrael466
Originally posted by negativf4kk

Expect massive lag as usual after update.

It was worst MMO launch ever. Same probably will happen today.

 

I'm sorry, but you're either a hater, or an idiot. While no MMO launch is perfect, SWTOR was far....FAAAAAAR from the 'worst ever'. Look at WoW, only MOP had a decent release. Hell, back in classic major patches alone would knock the servers down for a week.

No i`m not a hater. I loved Swtor what what it is. Nice single-player game. Idiot i was paying a sub for it.

Head start was terrible. Guild elocation program ton of rubish. Queque timer was broker or they borrowed it from MIB headqueters. Disconects without timeout. etc .... etc... My worst experience. If anything launching like that i will want my money back.

 

No one is disagreeing with your personal experince. Like i said experince may vary. But you did try to make it sound as if your own personal experince is some universal truth. I had more problems with GW2 launch and i had to wait 4 days before i could log in and missed head start. SWTOR was smooth sailing for me.

But you won't see me try to make it look as if my personal experince is some universal fact. It is not what you say but how you say it.

Its not what u read its how u want to read it.

In my experience its worst ever. And because i am the center of the univers. It is a my universal fact. If it diffrent to your univers its not my problem.

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  cronius77

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11/15/12 1:47:46 PM#40
i agree about the memory leak problem as there is about 20 different posts about it with tons of replies on the OF and bioware ignores it which pisses me off also. I have 8 gigs of ram and every two hours or so on the dot the game crashes to desktop and i have to restart everything which is annoying as hell. I have an active sub and try not to bitch much about the game but silence speaks volumes about how this day is going to end up. They need to learn to communicate much better period as they lack any communication with their community just like mythic does with theirs for months when warhammer was dying. I guess EA customer support isnt trained properly or something.
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